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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 10:52 AM Jan 2014

Huckabee Doubles Down On Women Can't Control Libidos Comment

Last edited Fri Jan 24, 2014, 12:20 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: TPM

DANIEL STRAUSS – JANUARY 24, 2014, 9:45 AM EST
Not only is former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee (R) not apologizing for saying Democrats think women can't control their reproductive system without the help of the government, he's fundraising off those comments.

"I am apparently the worst conservative ever or at least the most annoying one according to the left wingers in Washington today," Huckabee wrote in his regular MikeHuckabee.com email to supporters Thursday night. "My remarks to the RNC today were immediately jumped on and blown sky high by hand-wringing, card carrying liberals from coast to coast, some of them in the media."

The email came hours after the former Arkansas governor, during a speech at the Republican National Committee's winter meeting, said Democrats "insult the women of America by making them believe that they are helpless without Uncle Sugar coming in and providing for them a prescription each month for birth control, because they cannot control their libido or their reproductive system without the help of the government."

In the email Huckabee also asks for donations to his political action committee so his critics can look at the committee's fundraising and "say see we told you so. Guess what liberals? If you can't stand to look at yourself in the mirror, then get ready for more of this talk, because conservatives are going to continue to fight back against your destructive policies towards women and families," Huckabee continued in the email.

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Santorum: Huckabee Comment On Women's Libidos Was 'Off The Cuff'

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251350126

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No, Mike Huckabee Wasn't Speaking "Off the Cuff"

By David Weigel

Catherine Thompson captures some comments by Rick Santorum on Crossfire, made in the wake of Mike Huckabee's "libido" speech.

I think what Gov. Huckabee was saying is that we've seen an unprecedented assault by the Democrats against Republicans claiming there is a war on women... I think Gov. Huckabee would probably have phrased it differently. Mike speaks off the cuff, as some of us are known to do, and probably would have chose different words to communicate that.


This is basically the opposite of true. Like I mentioned yesterday, the RNC speech was only the second time in a week that Huckabee went on a riff about how Democrats were talking to women as if they couldn't control their lady urges. From his weekend Fox News show:

The ridiculous claim that a pro-life position is a "war on women" is an insult to the millions of women who make extraordinary sacrifices for their children. For Democrats to reduce women to beggars for cheap government funded birth control is demeaning to the women that I know who are far more complicated than their libido and the management of their reproductive system.


more:
http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2014/01/24/no_mike_huckabee_wasn_t_speaking_off_the_cuff.html?wpisrc=newsletter_jcr:content&mc_cid=5d36922fc2&mc_eid=7a8b58c8c3

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Pelosi: Huckabee's Remark Wouldn't Have Passed Muster 100 Years Ago

TOM KLUDT – JANUARY 24, 2014, 6:27 AM EST1216

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) said Mike Huckabee's head-scratching remark about women and their "libidos" would have been a retrograde sentiment even a century ago.

One of Capitol Hill's most outspoken supporters of women's reproductive rights, Pelosi used Twitter on Thursday to zing the former Arkansas governor.

Nancy Pelosi ✔ @NancyPelosi
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Even 100 years ago, it would have been hard to imagine a man making a statement as ridiculous as what Mr. Huckabee said today.
5:39 PM - 23 Jan 2014


Huckabee made his bizarre comment Thursday at the Republican National Committee's winter meeting.

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Huckabee Doubles Down On Women Can't Control Libidos Comment (Original Post) DonViejo Jan 2014 OP
What a smug simple mind he has!! riversedge Jan 2014 #1
What simple minded idiots are the women Jakes Progress Jan 2014 #124
He should talk to Santorum. Even this idiot recognizes Mass Jan 2014 #2
That does sound like a great GOP ticket to me. mpcamb Jan 2014 #129
He doesn't make me wring my hands get the red out Jan 2014 #3
He makes me clap my hands and shout "Encore!" Paladin Jan 2014 #31
Damn good point!!! get the red out Jan 2014 #66
Correct. They are very slow learners. n/t whathehell Jan 2014 #127
no kidding, he should run for president again. nt arely staircase Jan 2014 #83
Touche' with your "Encore!" Cha Jan 2014 #101
This is, oddly enough, the very argument used to justify the enforcement of 'hijab' regulations MADem Jan 2014 #4
+1000 sinkingfeeling Jan 2014 #7
Repubbie Males in bed with Arab Ideals on "a place & a look for the little ladies" Berlum Jan 2014 #40
The Huckster is actually claiming it is Democrats who think women can not control their libidos..... Fred Sanders Jan 2014 #55
Add to that the fact FlaGranny Jan 2014 #110
I wish we had a "like" button for posts... CBHagman Jan 2014 #113
Fascist moron. nt TBF Jan 2014 #5
Ever notice that it's always liberals who are "card carrying"? We never refer to conservatives as.. George II Jan 2014 #6
No, conservatives force their members to sign loyalty pledges, remember? sinkingfeeling Jan 2014 #9
BAM!! You are so right!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2014 #12
I've got my ACLU card--does that count? eom Maeve Jan 2014 #10
I've always wondered that rbixby Jan 2014 #19
It's a McCarthyism Communist Red Scare Thing™ TransitJohn Jan 2014 #22
Yep. Card carrying commie....... Liberal underpants Jan 2014 #26
I'm actually a "card carrying member of the ACLU". AAO Jan 2014 #25
I loved that quote from "The American President." Rozlee Jan 2014 #57
And "hand-wringing" too n/t arcane1 Jan 2014 #56
You didn't sign up for the Commie Club...or the ACLU! Those are the "cards" to which those dorks MADem Jan 2014 #58
i'd like a nice ID card as well. something with a hologram watermark. frylock Jan 2014 #61
Exactly. pangaia Jan 2014 #63
I noticed it, too. phylny Jan 2014 #93
I got one... Cha Jan 2014 #102
thanks for sharing that. LittleGirl Jan 2014 #112
You're Welcome LittleGirl~Thank you! Cha Jan 2014 #119
Actually, Huck, we're not wringing our hands, we're laughing our asses off at you Maeve Jan 2014 #8
I'm not laughing because that idiot wants to run for office and make law and policy.... lastlib Jan 2014 #15
I think ridicule works very well against such nonsense Maeve Jan 2014 #82
What does he think contraceptives do? House of Roberts Jan 2014 #11
They don't realize that.....that's why they made such a fuss over Sandra Fluke.... George II Jan 2014 #62
He needs a full-body condom to cover his mouth. Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #68
Good nxylas Jan 2014 #13
Tell this fucker to keep talking. Just keep saying racist and anti-women shit. Keep talking! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2014 #14
Maybe ol' Huckadunce thinks.... Plucketeer Jan 2014 #16
The Republican Plan... lame54 Jan 2014 #17
Bingo BootinUp Jan 2014 #38
Keep it up, Huckles . . . MrModerate Jan 2014 #18
Hmm. Mike Huckabee might be helpless without Uncle Bariatric. blue neen Jan 2014 #20
Hey Huck.... Swede Atlanta Jan 2014 #21
As we stand looking at Republicans shoot themselves in the foot, this should be a time we Thinkingabout Jan 2014 #23
Why don't bastards like him ever tell MEN to shut down THEIR libidos? catbyte Jan 2014 #24
Huckabee probably doesn't have one Demeter Jan 2014 #27
He's a preacher preachifying to the choir underpants Jan 2014 #29
Exactly what I was wondering Chemisse Jan 2014 #92
Solution: "Uncle Sugar" buys every woman a picture of Mike Huckabee underpants Jan 2014 #28
Memory Lane notemason Jan 2014 #30
There is nothing quite so pathetic as a guy who looks like a pile of play-dough... malthaussen Jan 2014 #32
I know I shouldn't, but LOL! Nt spooky3 Jan 2014 #37
You know, I've told acquaintances of mine EC Jan 2014 #33
I DID have to sign consent for my husband's vasectomy HockeyMom Jan 2014 #70
Primaries, the only political institution more ridiculous than the electoral college Sen. Walter Sobchak Jan 2014 #34
The purpose of the primaries is so the party leaders can choose who we are going to vote for. RC Jan 2014 #45
I seriously doubt the Republican leadership finds the "clown car" exercise helpful Sen. Walter Sobchak Jan 2014 #50
Am I supposed to know who they are? Elmergantry Jan 2014 #126
He's not annoying. He's a joke Renew Deal Jan 2014 #35
I applaud Mike Huckabee colbertforpresident Jan 2014 #36
moron nt Deep13 Jan 2014 #39
Comprehensive reading anyone? freemay20 Jan 2014 #41
not sure what you mean. He said what he said. Capn Sunshine Jan 2014 #44
Libido :) freemay20 Jan 2014 #49
Actually ... knightmaar Jan 2014 #53
Don't agree FlaGranny Jan 2014 #111
...what an asshole. SoapBox Jan 2014 #42
WHERE ARE THESE WOMEN THAT CAN'T CONTROL THEIR LIBIDOS? Capn Sunshine Jan 2014 #43
You made me laugh. efhmc Jan 2014 #72
Where are the white women at? Ezlivin Jan 2014 #78
Lot of guys are asking that question. Manifestor_of_Light Jan 2014 #128
Ignorance. knightmaar Jan 2014 #46
Seems to me... DirtyDawg Jan 2014 #47
Republicans with small minds PatrynXX Jan 2014 #48
I'm a liberal, but don't have a card. Where can I get one? Scuba Jan 2014 #51
Card Carrying Liberal Pedoviejo2 Jan 2014 #114
He's a good buddy of wangotangoman 2naSalit Jan 2014 #52
We need to come up with a description 47of74 Jan 2014 #54
GOP Spokesman Calls American Women 'Sluts.' onehandle Jan 2014 #59
Huck A Bucks view of women warrant46 Jan 2014 #73
Please Proceed Governor amuse bouche Jan 2014 #60
Ahhhhh, memories Justitia Jan 2014 #131
A "speech" is absolutely by definition not, "Off the cuff!" They were his prepared remarks! Dustlawyer Jan 2014 #64
The Christian Taliban continues it's war on women. Dawson Leery Jan 2014 #65
Hey U.S Chamber of Commerce Liberalynn Jan 2014 #67
This 'card carrying' liberal Democrat of bkanderson76 Jan 2014 #69
Card carrying isn't a requirement. TexasTowelie Jan 2014 #104
OMG, I think I've got it! Please talk me down. hedda_foil Jan 2014 #71
Huckabee: STILL worthless RainDog Jan 2014 #74
I'm a liberal--where the hell is my card?!? catbyte Jan 2014 #75
If the number of criminal rape indictments against women equalled that of rape indictments JDPriestly Jan 2014 #76
Anti-birth control activists warrant46 Jan 2014 #115
Any of you folk seen my liberal card? VWolf Jan 2014 #77
I'VE GOT NEWS FOR YOU, HUCK! CTyankee Jan 2014 #79
Chuckles apparently subscribes to the "Vatican Roulette" method of birth control. yellowcanine Jan 2014 #80
Huckabee represents MoreGOPoop Jan 2014 #81
I see a lot of people here post how simple minded Huckabee is... Demenace Jan 2014 #84
actually: you are Huckabee noiretextatique Jan 2014 #85
My exact point. a lack of curiosity... Demenace Jan 2014 #86
could you be specific? maindawg Jan 2014 #88
So, I take it, you do not ever think we as Progressives, have not fallen prey to dogmatic views? Demenace Jan 2014 #90
The true GOP mindset shines through Scalded Nun Jan 2014 #87
Ah, Libido Loca Marthe48 Jan 2014 #89
Of course he does. blkmusclmachine Jan 2014 #91
Willful Ignorance Raining Down from the Right Jazz Tazz Jan 2014 #94
Very powerful and important statements. TexasTowelie Jan 2014 #105
Excellent comment... nenagh Jan 2014 #107
He's a dangerous loon. TBF Jan 2014 #109
...uh huh.... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2014 #95
I think Huckabee's last name must have been changed. 3catwoman3 Jan 2014 #96
Going to be an interesting campaign season to arrive at a GOP nominee aint_no_life_nowhere Jan 2014 #97
If you don't have a card, no sex for you. toby jo Jan 2014 #98
ooh! revealed: the book on Huckabee's nightstand RainDog Jan 2014 #99
Good! Take that shit into the Cha Jan 2014 #100
Yeah, whatever. . . madamesilverspurs Jan 2014 #103
Huck was just trying to say we should repeal the Nineteenth Amendment, but he sometimes has trouble struggle4progress Jan 2014 #106
K&R DeSwiss Jan 2014 #108
The right's war against women Rosa Luxemburg Jan 2014 #116
All while he advocates that the government control women's bodies LTR Jan 2014 #117
it's subliminal bucolic_frolic Jan 2014 #118
And Huckster can't control his gluttony Crunchy Frog Jan 2014 #120
If a woman submits to her husband but HE doesn't want another kid, is contraception then OK? Martin Eden Jan 2014 #121
Liberals did not make you say your stupid sexist comment Mike .... you did that all by yourself Botany Jan 2014 #122
The Best Way to Control a Womans' Libido... HoosierCowboy Jan 2014 #123
Translation: "I'm an asshole, and I'm proud of it." Rob H. Jan 2014 #125
I want more from him. I want him to become the face of Republican intolerance. alfredo Jan 2014 #130
Huckabee is attempting to turn a strength into a weakness siligut Jan 2014 #132

Jakes Progress

(11,122 posts)
124. What simple minded idiots are the women
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 01:10 PM
Jan 2014

who vote for such an ass.

(Actually, anyone who votes for him is a simple-minded, mean, idiot. But a woman that stupid and self-loathing is disgusting.)

get the red out

(13,462 posts)
3. He doesn't make me wring my hands
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 10:58 AM
Jan 2014

That evil piece of shit has me balling them up into fists every time he opens his mouth.

Paladin

(28,256 posts)
31. He makes me clap my hands and shout "Encore!"
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 11:35 AM
Jan 2014

With enemies like Huck, our need for friends is greatly reduced.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
4. This is, oddly enough, the very argument used to justify the enforcement of 'hijab' regulations
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 10:58 AM
Jan 2014

in countries like Iran and Afghanistan, and additional restrictions on movement and requirements to be accompanied by a male relation in places like Saudi Arabia.

You see, if 'those women' are left to their own devices, they'll be frigging in the rigging all over town, and a poor fellah won't know if that child is his (never mind the modern convenience of DNA, now!).

I wish I could say I'm joking or engaging in but this is how the leadership feels over that way. It's deadly serious to them, and the women endure the consequences.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
55. The Huckster is actually claiming it is Democrats who think women can not control their libidos.....
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 12:53 PM
Jan 2014

though Republicans are the ones who want women forced to to undergo probes and lectures and forced births with a threat of jailing.

FlaGranny

(8,361 posts)
110. Add to that the fact
Sat Jan 25, 2014, 09:16 AM
Jan 2014

that "wives should submit to their husbands." What kind of marriage must one have that requires the wife to submit, for god's sake? There is no submission in a good marriage. Add allowing no birth control AND requiring submission, what you get is always pregnant women, a country full of Duggars! Ugghh. These crazy people are cavemen.

CBHagman

(16,984 posts)
113. I wish we had a "like" button for posts...
Sat Jan 25, 2014, 01:14 PM
Jan 2014

...because thumbs would be going up all over DU for yours.

George II

(67,782 posts)
6. Ever notice that it's always liberals who are "card carrying"? We never refer to conservatives as..
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 10:59 AM
Jan 2014

..."card carrying".

I've been a liberal for more than 40 years, never had a card confirming that I'm a liberal. Where have I gone wrong?

rbixby

(1,140 posts)
19. I've always wondered that
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 11:09 AM
Jan 2014

I do have a DNC card and a DFL card......so I guess I'm a card carrying democrat

 

AAO

(3,300 posts)
25. I'm actually a "card carrying member of the ACLU".
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 11:16 AM
Jan 2014

I have the card just so when this comes up in not so polite conversation with a teabagger, I can comfirm his total worldview by whipping it out.

So sad they don't realize the ACLU protects and fights for us all - the really do "fight for our freedoms".

Rozlee

(2,529 posts)
57. I loved that quote from "The American President."
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 01:05 PM
Jan 2014

I generally don't like Michael Douglas and "The American President" got panned, especially by conservatives, but I liked that the character stood up to the religious right and defended his membership in the ACLU and even bragged about it.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
58. You didn't sign up for the Commie Club...or the ACLU! Those are the "cards" to which those dorks
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 01:06 PM
Jan 2014

refer!

Maeve

(42,282 posts)
8. Actually, Huck, we're not wringing our hands, we're laughing our asses off at you
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 11:00 AM
Jan 2014

Yo think you're getting attention because what you say is "true"--no, it's because what you say is appallingly stupid.

Please continue.

lastlib

(23,224 posts)
15. I'm not laughing because that idiot wants to run for office and make law and policy....
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 11:07 AM
Jan 2014

based on his knuckle-dragging Neanderthal views. This is serious stupid, and it needs to be crushed. Making light of it doesn't accomplish that.

Maeve

(42,282 posts)
82. I think ridicule works very well against such nonsense
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 04:55 PM
Jan 2014

He's a fool and should be treated as such.

House of Roberts

(5,169 posts)
11. What does he think contraceptives do?
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 11:01 AM
Jan 2014

He seems to have the same mindset as Limbought, that you only take birth control pills when you have sex?

George II

(67,782 posts)
62. They don't realize that.....that's why they made such a fuss over Sandra Fluke....
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 01:24 PM
Jan 2014

...They also think that women get pregnant all by themselves.

Maybe that's the way rightwing men have sex, but......

nxylas

(6,440 posts)
13. Good
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 11:06 AM
Jan 2014

The more Republicans speak their "minds", the less electable they become. I live in the UK, where a slick PR man became Prime Minister precisely by deceiving people about what the Conservative Party really stands for. No chance of that happening in the US as long as idiots like Huckleberry continue to shoot their mouths off.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
16. Maybe ol' Huckadunce thinks....
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 11:07 AM
Jan 2014

...that because any women close to him seem to be able to resist "engaging" with HIM, it's just that easy!

 

MrModerate

(9,753 posts)
18. Keep it up, Huckles . . .
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 11:09 AM
Jan 2014

Every time you bleat out something stupid like this, hundreds of potential votes for Republicans disappear for good.

blue neen

(12,319 posts)
20. Hmm. Mike Huckabee might be helpless without Uncle Bariatric.
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 11:11 AM
Jan 2014

Last edited Fri Jan 24, 2014, 11:48 AM - Edit history (1)

He cannot control his appetite, can he?

 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
21. Hey Huck....
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 11:12 AM
Jan 2014

Access to contraception is not a controversial issue. Even Santorum acknowledged that the issue of contraception is not controversial as between Democrats and Republicans and Santorum is about as religious nutty as they come.

Huckabee seems to suggest that the government shouldn't be paying for the contraception because heaven knows women will be sluts if they could get pregnant. And for him of course sex is only for making babies.

The reality is the federal government does not provide a prescription for contraceptives to any woman. He is very confused. Contraception is, however, under the ACA, covered both under Medicaid and private insurance policies. The federal and state governments may provision contraceptives for Medicaid patients as part of the Medicaid insurance program. But it is under the regi of the Medicaid insurance program. Those insured privately have no government involvement in their contraception other than we require insurance companies to cover.

See for Huck he likes Sharia Law. He thinks women should keep their legs shut if they aren't married and not working on making more babies.

If women dare to have recreational sex and especially with someone to whom they are not married, she should be on her own for contraception because otherwise we are demeaning her. What kind of crap is that?

But I'm sure he is all for ensuring Viagra is available and included in Medicaid and private insurance.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
23. As we stand looking at Republicans shoot themselves in the foot, this should be a time we
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 11:13 AM
Jan 2014

do fund raising to stop the crap tired dumb old white men are inflicting on women. I wonder what part of the bible did he find the backing for this statement. Also is he a professional who reads minds of Democrats? Hell no, but he wants to blame the Democrats for his twisted mind of how he feels about women. If one wonders why I left the Baptist religion, crap like comes out of the mouth of Fundies and the born-again bunch. Is anything these crazy people change how I feel about my belief, no, but I do not choose to sit Sunday after Sunday and listen to crap like this.

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
27. Huckabee probably doesn't have one
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 11:21 AM
Jan 2014

How could he? He hates women so, wouldn't want to soil himself by consorting with one.

underpants

(182,797 posts)
29. He's a preacher preachifying to the choir
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 11:26 AM
Jan 2014

The Thumper crowd. Them women are temptresses AND property at the same time.

Chemisse

(30,811 posts)
92. Exactly what I was wondering
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 07:55 PM
Jan 2014

Women don't have sex that requires contraception by themselves!

It's the old 'boys will be boys, but if women do it they're whores' lecture I got as a teenager.

I thought those days had been left in the dust.

notemason

(299 posts)
30. Memory Lane
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 11:32 AM
Jan 2014

My first job as an adult was with a company called Civic Reading Club and we sold magazines on an installment basis. Magazines. We were not allowed to sell to preachers because they wouldn't pay their bills.

malthaussen

(17,194 posts)
32. There is nothing quite so pathetic as a guy who looks like a pile of play-dough...
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 11:37 AM
Jan 2014

... trying to act tough.

-- Mal

EC

(12,287 posts)
33. You know, I've told acquaintances of mine
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 11:43 AM
Jan 2014

that are Republican that their side has been trying to take the pill away since it was legalized. To a one, they would deny it...I hope they are listening now. They want to make the pill illegal again or worse, make it only with husband's approval again. I remember when I needed my husband's signature for it, but they sure didn't ask for my signature for his vasectomy.

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
70. I DID have to sign consent for my husband's vasectomy
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 02:53 PM
Jan 2014

listen to a lecture, and he had to wait 24 hours. I even told that doctor I found all this was very insulting to not only him, but to me. This was in NYC in 1984.

On the other hand, I never needed my husband's permission for BC going back to 1974. In fact my employer's insurance covered it and it was FREE back then when ALL meds requiring a script were covered by insurance and free.

 

Sen. Walter Sobchak

(8,692 posts)
34. Primaries, the only political institution more ridiculous than the electoral college
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 11:47 AM
Jan 2014

When these people get to set the national agenda:

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
45. The purpose of the primaries is so the party leaders can choose who we are going to vote for.
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 12:23 PM
Jan 2014

We actually have less choice in the matter, than we are lead to believe.

freemay20

(243 posts)
41. Comprehensive reading anyone?
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 12:07 PM
Jan 2014

I listened to what Huckabee said about 6 times now. He did not say or give an opinion on libido. The part about libido was in a section of his talk where he wrongly attributed the view to the way the Democratic Party view women and contraception. Come on people, let's not be a secondary Faux News and twist things as we want to perceive them. I have seen a whole lot of this at DU lately. I sometimes have to wonder if I am reading a page at the Onion or at DU.

Capn Sunshine

(14,378 posts)
44. not sure what you mean. He said what he said.
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 12:18 PM
Jan 2014

Democrats "insult the women of America by making them believe that they are helpless without Uncle Sugar coming in and providing for them a prescription each month for birth control, because they cannot control their libido or their reproductive system without the help of the government."

freemay20

(243 posts)
49. Libido :)
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 12:32 PM
Jan 2014

People are on him for saying women have uncontrollable libidos. He did not say this. He said the Democratic party views women as having an uncontrollable libido. He in no way took ownership of saying women had an uncontrollable L. I hate the guy but had to say something as DU is changing so much. Change is not a bad thing but intelligence still needs to be used. Many of the people I know that were regulars on here no longer come to the site because people start threads without representing the truth or facts. Have a good one Capn

knightmaar

(748 posts)
53. Actually ...
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 12:49 PM
Jan 2014

What he said was: "If you need birth control, you're a slut and the government is helping you be a slut if it mandates birth control provisions."

It's right there, between the lines. Let's not pretend it isn't.

FlaGranny

(8,361 posts)
111. Don't agree
Sat Jan 25, 2014, 09:33 AM
Jan 2014

Last edited Sat Jan 25, 2014, 10:53 AM - Edit history (1)

Huckabee is saying that's what Democrats think, and no Democrat I know of feels that way. Those thoughts are in HIS mind and he (I can't think of the right word right now) is attributing his own thoughts to others. Classic. Just like the guy from the south a few years ago that seemed to think that all country boys had sex with animals (obviously because he did or wanted to).

Edit: Ah, remembered the word - PROJECTION!

Capn Sunshine

(14,378 posts)
43. WHERE ARE THESE WOMEN THAT CAN'T CONTROL THEIR LIBIDOS?
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 12:15 PM
Jan 2014

It's very important that I speak with one ASAP. Preferably in Southern CA.

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
128. Lot of guys are asking that question.
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 11:41 PM
Jan 2014

Unfortunately, they don't teach the guys how to pick up girls in engineering school. Or how to talk to them.

My suggested course: Fashion Tips for Nerds: Unbutton the top button on your nerd shirt, dammit!! Bathing and shaving are also important.


knightmaar

(748 posts)
46. Ignorance.
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 12:26 PM
Jan 2014

He seems to think that the purpose of the pill is to reduce a woman's libido, as opposed to preventing conception.

This reminds me of Limbaugh and his expectation that the number of pills a woman takes is proportional to the number of times she has sex.

They're both ignorant of the way the pill works.

(Mind you, controlling a woman's libido is a long term goal of the Conservative Christians, so maybe that's why it's on his mind.)

 

DirtyDawg

(802 posts)
47. Seems to me...
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 12:29 PM
Jan 2014

...that until all men are castrated, or that a man that engages in sexual intercourse without 'protection' is a felony, then this 'women's libido' thing is merely the rankings of a stupid motherf$&kin, Bible thumper that long ago should have been put out of his misery.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
48. Republicans with small minds
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 12:29 PM
Jan 2014

seem to think this is just about birth control. They even went after Sandra Fluke the other day. like hello she wasn't fighting for that part, it was for her friends illness. So if the so called Pro Lifers really are Pro Life they'd be Pro Sandra fluke. Unless we wanna start banning men's Prostate Cancer drugs because maybe it's related to their libido (smh)

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
51. I'm a liberal, but don't have a card. Where can I get one?
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 12:37 PM
Jan 2014

Or is that just a "card-carrying Commie" slur the Huckster's using?

2naSalit

(86,594 posts)
52. He's a good buddy of wangotangoman
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 12:47 PM
Jan 2014

How can anyone profess to engage in independent cognitive function while also openly claiming a close relationship with that nutcase? They think (if you can call it that) along the same theme/lines.

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
54. We need to come up with a description
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 12:50 PM
Jan 2014

We need to come up with a description for Huckabee like they did with Santorum. Any ideas?

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
64. A "speech" is absolutely by definition not, "Off the cuff!" They were his prepared remarks!
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 01:34 PM
Jan 2014

Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit!

 

Liberalynn

(7,549 posts)
67. Hey U.S Chamber of Commerce
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 01:58 PM
Jan 2014

How's that plan to shove the extremist nut jobs into the background of the Puker Party coming along so far? Keep talking ass hats and we will see you at the polls in November.

hedda_foil

(16,373 posts)
71. OMG, I think I've got it! Please talk me down.
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 02:57 PM
Jan 2014

I think where he's coming from is the very old, very ugly point of view that it's the woman's job to just say no unless she's married, and that if she doesn't keep her legs closed at all times, she's both weak and a slut. (If she's married, of COURSE, her role is to submit willingly ...but not enthusiastically... to her husband's manly "needs.&quot Thus, by enabling women to obtain contraceptive care, Dems are encouraging them to submit to their baser nature's, instead of allowing them to exercise their true moral strength by denying any nasty sexual urges.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
76. If the number of criminal rape indictments against women equalled that of rape indictments
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 03:40 PM
Jan 2014

against men, Rev. Huckabee's statement might be more credible.

Birth control is everyone's business.

This earth can feed and clothes just so many people. We don't know what the limit on God's gracious bounty on the earth's is, but if we look around us at the hunger, drought, and need, we can easily see that we are approaching it.

warrant46

(2,205 posts)
115. Anti-birth control activists
Sat Jan 25, 2014, 02:02 PM
Jan 2014

Anti-birth control activists are not pro-welfare programs. Anti-birth control activists are not pro-school lunches. They’re not pro-food stamps, pro-funding foster care or pro-taking-care-of-children-after-they’re-born. . But the anti-birth control activists are laser focused on life until it becomes viable—then that “life” becomes a lazy taker and part of the 47 percent “who believe that they are entitled to health care.”

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
79. I'VE GOT NEWS FOR YOU, HUCK!
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 03:51 PM
Jan 2014

Dems are fundraising off of you, too! Like crazy!

I just got a solicitation from Allison Grimes in my email. I'll betcha every Dem in the House is out there soliciting money and support using your stupid comments like gangbusters.

Hey, repukes, you think you had trouble with women in 2012? You ain't seen nothin' yet...

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
80. Chuckles apparently subscribes to the "Vatican Roulette" method of birth control.
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 03:56 PM
Jan 2014

And by the way Chuckles, it takes two to tango so it is not just women's libidos which are part of the mix.

MoreGOPoop

(417 posts)
81. Huckabee represents
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 04:08 PM
Jan 2014

White Anglo-Saxon Protestants- Southern Baptist flavor:
Shut up, roll over, then go fry me up some suppah.

 

Demenace

(213 posts)
84. I see a lot of people here post how simple minded Huckabee is...
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 05:15 PM
Jan 2014


Well, folks look in the mirror and you will see a reflection of yourselves! Why, because just like this simple minded worldviews the Right-wing has fallen prey to, the Progressive side is also allowing itself to fall prey to simple minded positions - reducing the complexities of the Snowden/ NSA issue to a simple minded one is good, the other is bad positions.

We may not be different from the Huckabees of the world after all!
 

Demenace

(213 posts)
86. My exact point. a lack of curiosity...
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 06:19 PM
Jan 2014

...not as much as asking for explanation for a thing one does not have an understanding of. Just the simple minded attack of things you fail to understand.

So, here is the answer, you failed to ask for! Like Huckabee, we, Progressives, have developed a worldview that buys into certain narratives which produce these Huckabee-like reactions on our part. Please, tell me there are no individuals amongst us who have held dogmatically to sometimes very questionable positions and have made equally questionable comments in defense of such dogmatic positions?

If your answer is: No, there are no such Progressives then you need to go back to my original post and take my advice! It might help you to take a hard look at that mirror in front of you!

 

maindawg

(1,151 posts)
88. could you be specific?
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 06:44 PM
Jan 2014

There is a constitutional amendment that is supposed to protect us from what the NSA is doing. As a matter of fact, there is a constitutional amendment that guarantees a womans right to make decisions concerning her health. I am strongly in favor of the proetctions provided by US constitution.

 

Demenace

(213 posts)
90. So, I take it, you do not ever think we as Progressives, have not fallen prey to dogmatic views?
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 07:21 PM
Jan 2014

That we are becoming as dogmatic about our beliefs no matter what they are and as such becoming Huckabee-like in our views!
That is all the specifics you need!

Scalded Nun

(1,236 posts)
87. The true GOP mindset shines through
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 06:33 PM
Jan 2014

It is all about (and has always been about) control.

It is also a brazen example of why sexual abuse reforms in the military have been either worthless or, at best, half-assed.

How can 'real' soldiers control themselves with all of those fucking libidos running all around the battlefield?

Romney gave you 'binders of women'...

Huck gives you buckets of libidos.

Why any decent person would vote for a single sorry-ass GOP candidate is truly beyond me.

Jazz Tazz

(1 post)
94. Willful Ignorance Raining Down from the Right
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 09:07 PM
Jan 2014

Last edited Fri Jan 24, 2014, 11:32 PM - Edit history (1)

Is it possible that these MEN ON THE RIGHT, don't know what birth control is actually used for? If that is the case, do they believe that a contraceptive actually helps women to increase sex drive? IF that is the case, why are we not banning Viagra when we KNOW the purpose of that drug is to increase sex drive? How stupid are these so called MEN???? Should they sign up for sex education 101? They are either stupid, or willfully ignorant or complete male chauvinists. I used birth control for many years for more reasons than to control births and one thing I can guarantee, it NEVER increased my libido!!! In fact, the side affects were very risky for me but I also could not afford any more children and really bad health issues anyway. I never had a 4 hour orgasm that I needed to go to the emergency room for!!!! Birth Control Pills are used for exactly what the name implies. Shocking, isn't it?

Some are saying(in this thread) that this is not exactly what he said. It pretty much is in a nutshell BUT, IF that is not the exact statement that was made, does that make the meaning of what he was saying any less impactful? If he isn't saying those exact words, he is certainly implying that women cannot control their sexual desires without HELP from a drug of SOME SORT, wouldn't you agree? Or an Uncle Sugar, which I have never heard of in my life. I assume he is referring to a SUGAR DADDY which definitely makes it clearer as to what he is calling females. How disgusting that ANY MAN would say such a thing and worse, THAT ANY MAN FROM THE LEFT, RIGHT OR MIDDLE would defend a man for saying such a thing. At the very least, his comments lead to a very sexist statement. I would like to believe that we have come a long way from where we were but it seems to me, we just haven't. THIS is NOT the only issue in which the RIGHT proves and shows willful ignorance . It proves the very point that they have NO RESPECT for females in any way. Why else do they force us to fight for every thing that a man seems to have an inalienable right to? How many times do we need to fight? Some men act as though this is something THEY OWN and that only they can decide who has these rights and who doesn't. Why is that?? How did MEN inherit the right to decide what another human being should have or not have? Should own or not own? Should control or allow someone else to control? Especially something as important as one's body? Why do MEN even have this power??? How long are we going to allow men to FEEL LIKE THEY OWN OR SHOULD OWN THIS POWER? Women have to stop this trend now because it is LONG PAST DUE!!!

I am sorry, but I can find no reason to give him the benefit of the doubt that he is NOT a sexist, or misogynist. He has demonstrated that in no uncertain terms. There are a number of ways he could have disagreed with the use of birth control than what he said. There IS NO DEFENSE for this male chauvinist pig and I don't personally know a single woman who is not insulted by it. You can try to defend it by saying his words are misconstrued (which they aren't) but it still goes back to their RELIGIOUS belief that the only purpose and right of a woman to have sex is to have children and they should have no say in that one way or another. THAT is what it all boils down to AND THAT MY FRIENDS DOES MEAN WAR. If they think women were loud in 2012, let these so called men keep talking. It won't be a hard on that last four hours they will need to be concerned about, that is for certain! Women have had and heard enough of the bull crap from the right to last a lifetime. The effect you will feel with comments and attitudes toward women that even come close to resembling what Huckabee said, will last much longer than 4 hours and there will be no medical cure for it. Thanks for allowing me to share my opinion.

3catwoman3

(23,975 posts)
96. I think Huckabee's last name must have been changed.
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 10:14 PM
Jan 2014

Surely, the first letter is supposed to be an "F" rather than an "H".

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
97. Going to be an interesting campaign season to arrive at a GOP nominee
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 10:56 PM
Jan 2014

There's the Huckster, the runny Santorum, and the Blob for a new and improved clown car.

struggle4progress

(118,282 posts)
106. Huck was just trying to say we should repeal the Nineteenth Amendment, but he sometimes has trouble
Sat Jan 25, 2014, 06:08 AM
Jan 2014

expressing himself clearly, so instead it came out sounding like he's trying to cover up some trouble controlling his libido around Democratic women

But a look at what the Republications have been doing around the country for the last few years shows they really really really want to repeal the Fifteenth and Nineteenth Amendments

Just about everybody misspeaks now and then. So let's cut Huck some slack here and help him get his message out: he was just trying to say we should repeal the Nineteenth Amendment

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
108. K&R
Sat Jan 25, 2014, 08:44 AM
Jan 2014
"I am apparently the worst conservative ever or at least the most annoying one according to the left wingers in Washington today."

No Mike, I still think you're just an idiot. Apparently one with delusions of granduer. As well as being another typical aging white-boy, testosterone-soaked, religious hypocrite who claims he be loving him some Jebus but can't seem to remember anything he said we should do regarding our relations with one another.

- Of course those are your more redeeming qualities as a Republican. Your only qualities, in fact......

LTR

(13,227 posts)
117. All while he advocates that the government control women's bodies
Sat Jan 25, 2014, 05:56 PM
Jan 2014

Am I the only one who sees the irony here?

bucolic_frolic

(43,157 posts)
118. it's subliminal
Sat Jan 25, 2014, 06:46 PM
Jan 2014

what he means is women need help controlling their vaginas

and they need the church for that instead of the government

It's all about subliminal mind control and twisting words and meanings



Crunchy Frog

(26,582 posts)
120. And Huckster can't control his gluttony
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 12:59 AM
Jan 2014

without "Uncle Sugar" US government stapling his stomach shut for him.

What a fucking hypocrite.

Martin Eden

(12,864 posts)
121. If a woman submits to her husband but HE doesn't want another kid, is contraception then OK?
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 09:03 AM
Jan 2014

The wife must submit whether she wants to have sex or not, but HER libido is what's out of control here.

Botany

(70,503 posts)
122. Liberals did not make you say your stupid sexist comment Mike .... you did that all by yourself
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 10:15 AM
Jan 2014

BTW Always the hustler Huckabee uses this to make $$$$.

"In the email Huckabee also asks for donations to his political action committee so his critics can look at the committee's fundraising and "say see we told you so."

BTW part 2 Mike, how about the people you let out of jail so they could rape and kill more people?

Rob H.

(5,351 posts)
125. Translation: "I'm an asshole, and I'm proud of it."
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 01:15 PM
Jan 2014

This song's for you, Huckster. (Warning: NSFW language, obviously.)

siligut

(12,272 posts)
132. Huckabee is attempting to turn a strength into a weakness
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 10:34 AM
Jan 2014
"Guess what liberals? If you can't stand to look at yourself in the mirror, then get ready for more of this talk, because conservatives are going to continue to fight back against your destructive policies towards women and families,"


The female vote helped get Obama elected, Huckabee wants to use rhetoric and twisted logic to garner votes without altering the war on women and the long term goal of white male supremacy.
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