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Faygo Kid

(21,478 posts)
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 07:01 PM Jan 2014

Kim Jong-un Ordered The Execution Of His Uncle's Entire Family

Source: Business Insider

South Korea's state news agency is reporting that North Korean leader Kim Jong-un has ordered the execution of his uncle's entire family, including children.

"Extensive executions have been carried out for relatives of Jang Song-thaek," one source told Yonhap. "All relatives of Jang have been put to death, including even children."

On Dec. 12, Kim Jong-un executed his uncle and his close allies for "acts of treachery," which may have been related to a business dispute . . .



Read more: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/south-korean-media-kim-jong-203902515.html

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Kim Jong-un Ordered The Execution Of His Uncle's Entire Family (Original Post) Faygo Kid Jan 2014 OP
I hope not. Terrible man, terrible place. Shrike47 Jan 2014 #1
Fed to a pack of starving dogs, probably. 1000words Jan 2014 #2
he's as evil as they come, but that story has already been widely discounted as wrong... hlthe2b Jan 2014 #6
I'm sure "Business Insider" has the facts straight 1000words Jan 2014 #8
I was referring to the starving dog execution story--no idea about the family member executions... hlthe2b Jan 2014 #9
Not normally, but in Jang's case they made an exception jmowreader Jan 2014 #17
don't believe everything you read. uncle ray Jan 2014 #28
What Would Rodman Say? AAO Jan 2014 #3
What kind of person would befriend a person that does that? SummerSnow Jan 2014 #10
Maybe he didn't realize how evil this empire is. AAO Jan 2014 #11
So true.Even when the media questions him about NK ... SummerSnow Jan 2014 #33
Dude, Rodman is an alcholic, drug addicted ex-jock whom nobody has ever taken seriously. Does his Chakab Jan 2014 #12
It concerns me a bit, why do you ask? AAO Jan 2014 #13
I love that reply! tofuandbeer Jan 2014 #39
Yeah, the best I could do under the circumstances. AAO Jan 2014 #47
I know what you mean. I noticed that when I first reading at DU. tofuandbeer Jan 2014 #57
Befriending Rodman just makes him look more of a lunatic. fbc Jan 2014 #42
Thank You! LovingA2andMI Jan 2014 #44
If you got that out of any of my posts here, you need english remediation. AAO Jan 2014 #48
Rodman should have sense enough to stay away from there. undeterred Jan 2014 #18
The quick answer GP6971 Jan 2014 #22
When he is accused of being a spy, for either country... SummerSnow Jan 2014 #34
Rodman... sense.... defacto7 Jan 2014 #36
Evil resides everywhere. Unknown Beatle Jan 2014 #4
Exactly but we in America.... LovingA2andMI Jan 2014 #45
Interesting....Some of us have Family that are RW (beyond DEM Redemption) but...this KoKo Jan 2014 #5
It's pure Old Testament. And not unique to Judeo-Christian or western civilizations. haele Jan 2014 #58
This is really old news.....Yahoo is just posting this now? GP6971 Jan 2014 #7
No, this is new. They're saying Jang's blood relatives, including ambassadors TwilightGardener Jan 2014 #14
You're correct GP6971 Jan 2014 #15
I hope I don't sound too dense, but what is a Yonhap? AAO Jan 2014 #50
Yonhap is South Korea's official news agency n/t GP6971 Jan 2014 #55
Thank you. Learn a lot of things on DU! AAO Jan 2014 #56
No. DeSwiss Jan 2014 #20
Correct...see my # 15 post. n/t GP6971 Jan 2014 #21
Not surprising based on what we've been hearing davidpdx Jan 2014 #16
He world has become much more civilized in the past 100 years. RoverSuswade Jan 2014 #19
If they're executing all of his Uncle's family Dorian Gray Jan 2014 #23
Good one !!!! GP6971 Jan 2014 #31
That's what I thought! LiberalElite Jan 2014 #61
We need to pull out of Korea and let China take care of the problem they started. onehandle Jan 2014 #24
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2014 #30
What does pulling out of South Korea have to do with Norh Korea? Nanjing to Seoul Jan 2014 #41
Apple's chief rival Samsung is a Korean company. mathematic Jan 2014 #52
And we're powerless to stop it (if you feel we should step in) because... WhoWoodaKnew Jan 2014 #25
is the source of this another satire writer (like the last series), or...? Alamuti Lotus Jan 2014 #26
He is worse than his father lostincalifornia Jan 2014 #27
Don't they corroborate news any more? rug Jan 2014 #29
Not if the headline is jazzy and advances prevailing agendas Alamuti Lotus Jan 2014 #32
Hard to corroborate news in such a totalitarian dictatorship NickB79 Jan 2014 #53
I expect stories of him eating jellied brains with cranberries directly from the skulls of infants. rug Jan 2014 #60
The change to the new generation seems to be a jimlup Jan 2014 #35
That's the cool thing about Turbineguy Jan 2014 #37
Wouldn't he have to kill himself then? AmericanErrorist Jan 2014 #38
Can any of this be corroborated? Beacool Jan 2014 #40
Like a Stalin purge, back in the day... ReRe Jan 2014 #43
Well, Joe Shlabotnik Jan 2014 #46
Soooo... He killed off the branch part of the family Xyzse Jan 2014 #49
I read some time ago there were actually shots exchanged by his Uncles thugs gordianot Jan 2014 #51
Too bad North Korea doesn't have oil. If they did, we would come to the people's rescue. olddad56 Jan 2014 #54
Kim Jong-un will not live a long life Zambero Jan 2014 #59
The Korean blogs I hit GP6971 Jan 2014 #62

hlthe2b

(102,270 posts)
6. he's as evil as they come, but that story has already been widely discounted as wrong...
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 07:27 PM
Jan 2014

It was based on media wrongly interpreting a Chinese parody site

hlthe2b

(102,270 posts)
9. I was referring to the starving dog execution story--no idea about the family member executions...
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 07:31 PM
Jan 2014

I surely hope it is false, though...

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
17. Not normally, but in Jang's case they made an exception
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 09:16 PM
Jan 2014

Normally they just use firing squads. Apparently KJU believes in "corruption of blood." I believe KJU's blood is corrupt.

 

AAO

(3,300 posts)
11. Maybe he didn't realize how evil this empire is.
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 07:45 PM
Jan 2014

Maybe he will have a change of heart. He should feel like a real assburger.

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
33. So true.Even when the media questions him about NK ...
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 10:30 PM
Jan 2014

he gets really angry and tries to blame Obama. What an ass

 

Chakab

(1,727 posts)
12. Dude, Rodman is an alcholic, drug addicted ex-jock whom nobody has ever taken seriously. Does his
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 08:02 PM
Jan 2014

opinion of Kim-Jong really matter to you?

 

AAO

(3,300 posts)
47. Yeah, the best I could do under the circumstances.
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 12:44 PM
Jan 2014

Why do people feel the need to get in everyone's face around here? Responses like his are what helps create a tense and unfriendly tone on DU. Yeah, I'm a bit concerned that clown is going over there and rubbing elbows with Kim. He is not helping the situation.

Some people just HAVE to have confrontation. These are the people blogging in their underwear while Mommy is upstairs preparing his Count Chocula, Cap'n Crunch, or Frankenberry (depending on how he feels that day).



tofuandbeer

(1,314 posts)
57. I know what you mean. I noticed that when I first reading at DU.
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 03:08 PM
Jan 2014

Some people seem to nit pick replies /comments and seem to pretend their offended by it. You either reword it, or get reported.
It really sucks.

Anyway, again that was a great reply.

 

fbc

(1,668 posts)
42. Befriending Rodman just makes him look more of a lunatic.
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 01:53 AM
Jan 2014

Perhaps Rodman is part of a new covert program where we try to pair up our most ridiculous celebrities with enemy leaders.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
44. Thank You!
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 04:54 AM
Jan 2014

Amazing why folks suddenly think Dennis Rodman is some new-aged Jimmy Carter in the International Relations department. He's a Man with MANY problems as displayed in a recent press conference and visit to rehab for solving his ON-GOING problems with Drugs and Alcohol.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
36. Rodman... sense....
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 11:27 PM
Jan 2014

Those two words in the same sentence is so ironic I would expect a chemical reaction or explosion. Be careful!

Unknown Beatle

(2,672 posts)
4. Evil resides everywhere.
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 07:20 PM
Jan 2014

We have to look no further than our own backyard to see evil flourishing in the top echelon of our own government.

Kim Jong-un lives in a country where such things as executing your own relatives is permitted by the cowards that control N. Korea.

Here in the US, we have politicians that permit people to be ripped off by the banking industry, cut SNAP benefits to starving people, hand out billions of dollars of our taxpayer money to the ultra-rich, they want to eliminate health care for everyone, and if they had it their way, wouldn't care if people died as a result of their policies.

Evil is evil regardless of where we live.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
45. Exactly but we in America....
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 04:56 AM
Jan 2014

Bury our heads deep in the sand to OUR EVIL because we're the "World's Best".

Nothing can be further from the truth!

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
5. Interesting....Some of us have Family that are RW (beyond DEM Redemption) but...this
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 07:27 PM
Jan 2014

would seem a "Step Too Far." I'm happier with trying to get them out the door QUICK for Family Events like Thanksgiving. But, they must have REALLY pissed the kid off. And, Dictatorships can do this kind of stuff....and that's why we need to be careful, these days, about how far we go that we could end up like this...strange as it might seem...it could come to us in the coming years. It's not without precedent in World Affairs/History.

haele

(12,653 posts)
58. It's pure Old Testament. And not unique to Judeo-Christian or western civilizations.
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 03:15 PM
Jan 2014

All over the world, entire families are wiped out because one of their family members broke a taboo or pissed off a local leader, and all their neighbors will claim they all had it coming, they were "outsiders", or their family was cursed by the local deity because of some crime or bad trait in an ancestor. The simplistic idea is that those carrying the name and blood of a Very Bad Person carry the same potential.
So the only cure is that no mercy can be shown, because the miasma of evil is in "the blood" of the cursed family could potentially spread out to others who live in the vicinity if a child is spared, even if that child does not reproduce, and those families that showed mercy to such an evil might have been tainted and the evil will continue to spread through their families, which would also have to be destroyed eventually. "Little nits grow up to become ticks" and all that.
Simpler just to make sure the bloodline is finished than deal with the same issue decades later when the traumatized friends, relatives, and children might come back looking for answers or restitution. Problem done, go on to living the life of the status quo.

Again, this sort of mass expulsion from a community is not just a Western or a Monotheistic cultural trait. Or a paternalistic trait. This sort of activity has been recorded across the world; it's a tribal trait that is based in the human tendency to a hierarchal community structure and over-reaction to a perceived threat to the status quo that is "protecting" a community.

"Blood Crimes", Scapegoating and Expulsion (including shunning) are symptoms of magical thinking. And when populations are under stress, magical thinking is easier and far more seductive to fall into than using logic and actually doing hard work or having to take responsibility and fix the problem that is causing the stress.

Haele

GP6971

(31,156 posts)
7. This is really old news.....Yahoo is just posting this now?
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 07:28 PM
Jan 2014

unless I missed the dateline.

I think the method of execution (by starved dogs) has been debunked

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
14. No, this is new. They're saying Jang's blood relatives, including ambassadors
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 08:38 PM
Jan 2014

stationed in other countries, and children, have also been executed. It was previously reported that they were going to be rounded up and taken into custody--but this is the first I've heard they'd all been killed (not by dogs, just shooting).

GP6971

(31,156 posts)
15. You're correct
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 09:03 PM
Jan 2014

I've heard rumors, but have not seen anything published until this. Yonhap can't always be trusted, but I wouldn't discount it though.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
20. No.
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 09:28 PM
Jan 2014
- This is apparently a new release from the South Korean newspaper Yonhap as the link(s) indicated:

SEOUL, Jan. 26 (Yonhap) -- All relatives of the executed uncle of North Korean leader Kim Jong-un, including children and the country's ambassadors to Cuba and Malaysia, have also been put to death at the leader's instruction, multiple sources said Sunday.

Jang Song-thaek, the once-powerful uncle, was executed last month on charges of attempting to overthrow the communist regime, including contemplating a military-backed coup. All direct relatives of Jang have also been executed, the sources said.

"Extensive executions have been carried out for relatives of Jang Song-thaek," one source said on condition of anonymity. "All relatives of Jang have been put to death, including even children."

The executed relatives include Jang's sister Jang Kye-sun, her husband and Ambassador to Cuba Jon Yong-jin, and Ambassador to Malaysia Jang Yong-chol, who is a nephew of Jang, as well as his two sons, the sources said.

All of them were recalled to Pyongyang in early December and executed, they said. The sons, daughters and even grandchildren of Jang's two brothers were all executed, they said.

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davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
16. Not surprising based on what we've been hearing
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 09:12 PM
Jan 2014

The regime usually executes or imprisons 3 generations of a member's family who commits a crime.

RoverSuswade

(641 posts)
19. He world has become much more civilized in the past 100 years.
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 09:18 PM
Jan 2014

In fact, they shot the Czar and his entire family in the early 1900s. Good thing this kind of thing couldn't happen today!

Dorian Gray

(13,493 posts)
23. If they're executing all of his Uncle's family
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 09:51 PM
Jan 2014

including nephews, should not Kim Jong-un be executed?

paradox.

Seriously James Bond evil villain territory here. I would love to see a popular uprising of the people.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
24. We need to pull out of Korea and let China take care of the problem they started.
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 10:01 PM
Jan 2014

There is no reason America should be propping up our rivals in Asia.

Response to onehandle (Reply #24)

mathematic

(1,439 posts)
52. Apple's chief rival Samsung is a Korean company.
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 01:33 PM
Jan 2014

That's why we should abandon our longtime allies, the prosperous and democratic South Korea. So Apple's stock price can go up. It's sickening.

WhoWoodaKnew

(847 posts)
25. And we're powerless to stop it (if you feel we should step in) because...
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 10:03 PM
Jan 2014

countries that have nukes are off limits. And as more and more countries get nukes, countries have less and less power to stop the real crazies. I'm not passing judgement, just stating a fact.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
29. Don't they corroborate news any more?
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 10:11 PM
Jan 2014
Yonhap is known for its anti-North Korean bias. And other stories about the purge are probably fake.
 

Alamuti Lotus

(3,093 posts)
32. Not if the headline is jazzy and advances prevailing agendas
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 10:26 PM
Jan 2014

Corroboration is for terrorists and commies. Why do you hate freedom?

NickB79

(19,236 posts)
53. Hard to corroborate news in such a totalitarian dictatorship
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 01:58 PM
Jan 2014

Seeing as they don't even allow journalists in without a contingent of "minders" and will throw you in a gulag for merely owning most forms of communication from the outside world.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
60. I expect stories of him eating jellied brains with cranberries directly from the skulls of infants.
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 06:53 PM
Jan 2014

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
35. The change to the new generation seems to be a
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 11:19 PM
Jan 2014

giant leap backwards. This guy would give Dracula a run for his money.

Turbineguy

(37,329 posts)
37. That's the cool thing about
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 11:28 PM
Jan 2014

being Autocrat of All North Koreas.

You can murder anybody you like. Or don't like as the case may be.

And then you can tell yourself how lucky all your people are to be starving.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
40. Can any of this be corroborated?
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 12:47 AM
Jan 2014

There had been rumors that his uncle had been eaten by dogs. That rumor was debunked. I sincerely hope that this one will too. It would be too depressing to think that an entire family, including children, would have been obliterated to satisfy some need for Kim to take revenge.




ReRe

(10,597 posts)
43. Like a Stalin purge, back in the day...
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 04:50 AM
Jan 2014

... this is one ruthless individual if he's killing his family.

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
49. Soooo... He killed off the branch part of the family
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 01:05 PM
Jan 2014

Keeping his line secure?
I think that would bite him in the @ss at some point and probably get rid of his family DNA from the gene pool one day.

gordianot

(15,238 posts)
51. I read some time ago there were actually shots exchanged by his Uncles thugs
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 01:22 PM
Jan 2014

Uncle's men won that exchange, Uncle obviously lost. All of this would not matter so much if Kim Jon-un did not possess plutonium that can pollute in a major way even if it does not explode well.

olddad56

(5,732 posts)
54. Too bad North Korea doesn't have oil. If they did, we would come to the people's rescue.
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 02:04 PM
Jan 2014

at least until the oil was gone.

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