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hue

(4,949 posts)
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 01:47 PM Jan 2014

Monarch butterflies drop, migration may disappear

Source: U-T San Diego

MEXICO CITY (AP) — The number of Monarch butterflies wintering in Mexico plunged this year to its lowest level since studies began in 1993, leading experts to announce Wednesday that the insects' annual migration from the United States and Canada is in danger of disappearing.

A report released by the World Wildlife Fund, Mexico's Environment Department and the Natural Protected Areas Commission blames the displacement of the milkweed the species feeds on by genetically modified crops and urban sprawl in the United States, as well as the dramatic reduction of the butterflies' habitat in Mexico due to illegal logging of the trees they depend on for shelter.

After steep and steady declines in the previous three years, the black-and-orange butterflies now cover only 1.65 acres (0.67 hectares) in the pine and fir forests west of Mexico City, compared to 2.93 acres (1.19 hectares) last year. They covered more than 44.5 acres (18 hectares) at their recorded peak in 1995.

Read more: http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2014/jan/29/monarch-butterflies-drop-migration-may-disappear/



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Monarch butterflies drop, migration may disappear (Original Post) hue Jan 2014 OP
"The main culprit is now GMO herbicide-resistant corn and soybean crops and herbicides in the USA," bananas Jan 2014 #1
+ 1,000 Berlum Jan 2014 #21
We're destroying the planet and few people seem to care aint_no_life_nowhere Jan 2014 #2
If humans insist on not paying attention, we'll be going back to those population levels soon enough villager Jan 2014 #4
Sleepwalking to the apocalypse Distant Quasar Jan 2014 #8
Exactly. This Presidency is in as much denial -- certainly in its public face -- as everyone else. villager Jan 2014 #9
What bothers me is that people who should know better Distant Quasar Jan 2014 #10
I find that grimly hilarious myself. On what other planet will your "jobs" appear... villager Jan 2014 #12
Humans are too greedy and dumb to survive. We are a killing machine that has infested the Earth. ladjf Jan 2014 #26
I witnessed the migration back in the '70s in central Texas. flamin lib Jan 2014 #3
Dang! I have milkweed in my yard that attracts them. Time to propagate it to larger quantities. Owl Jan 2014 #5
One more canary in the coal mine Distant Quasar Jan 2014 #6
I was in a monarch migration about 20 years ago in a prairie remnant in OH Botany Jan 2014 #7
I have it! catchnrelease Jan 2014 #15
I am reading Doug Tallamy's book right now. Botany Jan 2014 #16
Oh that's a shame catchnrelease Jan 2014 #17
Link to Monarch Watch... hue Jan 2014 #11
"You blew it" question everything Jan 2014 #13
Humanity: The Ultimate Invasive Species W.J. McCabe Jan 2014 #14
When I moved to my minifarm 10 years ago, I used to get them magical thyme Jan 2014 #18
If you are going to plant milkweeds or other plants to attract pollinators Harriety Jan 2014 #19
we're killing everything heaven05 Jan 2014 #20
Harvest wild first. N_E_1 for Tennis Jan 2014 #23
A quick google SouthernDonkey Jan 2014 #27
Thanks for some illumination. The info. could help. Judi Lynn Jan 2014 #29
Who needs these pollinating pests anyway! ffr Jan 2014 #22
My property includes a half mile power line right-of-way - hedgehog Jan 2014 #24
I am devastsated! lark Jan 2014 #25
the best thing anyone can do for both the eastern and western populations... mike_c Jan 2014 #28
Maybe something like this could be set up? bananas Jan 2014 #33
check out monarch watch.... mike_c Jan 2014 #36
Their name seems so appropos. The Stranger Jan 2014 #30
Look! Over there! Duck Dynasty! Chris Christie! Kardashians! Super Bowl! hatrack Jan 2014 #31
Were so screwed. Joe Shlabotnik Jan 2014 #32
How sad CountAllVotes Jan 2014 #34
So sad.. sendero Jan 2014 #35

bananas

(27,509 posts)
1. "The main culprit is now GMO herbicide-resistant corn and soybean crops and herbicides in the USA,"
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 01:53 PM
Jan 2014
"The main culprit is now GMO herbicide-resistant corn and soybean crops and herbicides in the USA," which "leads to the wholesale killing of the monarch's principal food plant, common milkweed," Brower wrote in an email.



aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
2. We're destroying the planet and few people seem to care
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 01:54 PM
Jan 2014

Urban sprawl and deforestation mentioned in the article as the reasons for the gradual disappearance of the butterfly make me want to vomit. I wish we could at least go back to 1890 population levels, when we had one-fourth the number of people we have today.

 

villager

(26,001 posts)
4. If humans insist on not paying attention, we'll be going back to those population levels soon enough
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 01:58 PM
Jan 2014

In a rather harsh way, I'm afraid.

Distant Quasar

(142 posts)
8. Sleepwalking to the apocalypse
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 02:07 PM
Jan 2014

The fact that the environment figured so marginally in the SOTU last night just highlights the delusions that are killing us.

 

villager

(26,001 posts)
9. Exactly. This Presidency is in as much denial -- certainly in its public face -- as everyone else.
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 02:08 PM
Jan 2014

Alas.

Distant Quasar

(142 posts)
10. What bothers me is that people who should know better
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 02:24 PM
Jan 2014

insist on pretending that "the environment" is somehow a separate issue from the economy or national security. Without a stable, healthy environment, we can't have an economy - free market or otherwise. We won't have security, either, in any meaningful sense of the word. I wish there were some way of getting this into people's heads. But it seems to be impossible.

 

villager

(26,001 posts)
12. I find that grimly hilarious myself. On what other planet will your "jobs" appear...
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 02:34 PM
Jan 2014

... once we've trashed this one?

flamin lib

(14,559 posts)
3. I witnessed the migration back in the '70s in central Texas.
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 01:58 PM
Jan 2014

They were clinging to trees resting. There were so many that they were breaking 2-3 inch branches. It was truly a mystical experience.

This news makes me cry . . .

Owl

(3,647 posts)
5. Dang! I have milkweed in my yard that attracts them. Time to propagate it to larger quantities.
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 02:02 PM
Jan 2014

Maybe it will help a teeny bit.

Distant Quasar

(142 posts)
6. One more canary in the coal mine
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 02:04 PM
Jan 2014

Am I just paying closer attention, or has there been a surge of stories like this one just in the past few years? Bats dying off... Bees dying off... Massive die-offs of trees out West... I can barely stand it.

Botany

(70,639 posts)
7. I was in a monarch migration about 20 years ago in a prairie remnant in OH
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 02:04 PM
Jan 2014

Thousands and thousands of them in a little area. Smith Prairie in Madison County, OH



Everbody should get and read this book.

catchnrelease

(1,946 posts)
15. I have it!
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 02:42 PM
Jan 2014

And am doing my best to attract them. Milkweed for the Monarchs and all CA native plants in the front yard. Fruit trees, berry vines and wildflowers in the back. Even though we just have a small suburban lot, it all helps. I love all of the pollinators-native bees and flies, honeybees, butterflies and moths--all of them are so interesting and necessary. It breaks my heart to hear stories like this. Just yesterday I read that in Australia the honeybees are not even able to make honey due to the extreme heat. (The heat causes the Eucalyptus trees and others to stop producing pollen, causes the comb wax to melt and evaporates water sources the bees need to take back to the hive for cooling the colony.)

Two other good books are the Pollinator Conservation Handbook, also from The Xerces Society and Bringing Nature Home by Douglas W Tallamy.

Botany

(70,639 posts)
16. I am reading Doug Tallamy's book right now.
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 02:45 PM
Jan 2014

I was supposed to go see him speak in Wisconsin last weekend but I had to
stay and work in OH.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
18. When I moved to my minifarm 10 years ago, I used to get them
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 03:19 PM
Jan 2014

I still have plenty of milkweed. Haven't seen a single monarch -- barely any butterflies to be honest -- for a few years now.

Harriety

(298 posts)
19. If you are going to plant milkweeds or other plants to attract pollinators
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 03:24 PM
Jan 2014

then be sure that you get them from a supplier that does not use harmful pesticides. Last year, after I planted a few milkweeds around my yard I was drawn to an article that said some sellers sold plants with killer insecticides on them, and that was in turn going to do more damage to the insects than not planting them at all. Bee careful!

N_E_1 for Tennis

(9,799 posts)
23. Harvest wild first.
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 04:20 PM
Jan 2014

Find a field of a good quality milkweed, away from too much traffic, sunny in the morning, more shaded towards the afternoon. Break a stem, observe how much milk comes forth. More and flowing freely, best.

You can transplant the young shoots coming early in spring or wait till the fall and plant the seeds from the pods. I suggest the early shoots. Be prepared to dig deep. The root grows almost straight down.

I have been sustainably growing wild milkweed for a few years. It is a great veggie crop. The shoots, stems, while younger tastes like a very good green bean. The pods picked at the perfect time, steamed till tender, are amazing. We use milkweed as a main veggie source in the spring and early summer.

Picking and transplanting, we have grown a mere patch of milkweed, approximately 100' x 500' to about an acre in three years. We are working on other patches and gaining more supporters each season. We grow on state land in a state park (Michigan) with their permission and good graces.

ffr

(22,677 posts)
22. Who needs these pollinating pests anyway!
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 04:02 PM
Jan 2014


Damn those bees too!

Besides, those trees they felled were needed for more important things and it's only one species we're killing off.

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
24. My property includes a half mile power line right-of-way -
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 04:25 PM
Jan 2014

my husband mows it as a farm road so we can get to the back of our woods. In effect, it's a half mile meadow bordered with milkweed and other plants. (Did you know there are multiple types of milkweed? we have several different colors!)


Every fall, I'm used to seeing monarch butterflies stopping by on their way south.

This year, NOT A SINGLE ONE!

lark

(23,191 posts)
25. I am devastsated!
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 04:30 PM
Jan 2014

Oct. at Andrew Molera park was one of the most magical times in my life. In the depths of the eucalyptus woods, the air was fluttering orange and black, almost psychedelic. They totally coated the leaves of the trees, you could only see green when the wind stirred the leaf and some of them would move off. My friend and I lucked into this, there was nobody but us in the woods, everyone else was at the beach. When we stood really still, the buttlerflies would alight on us. That was back in 1990. I'm so sad that these beauties are dying out. I've always wanted to go there again with my kids and let them share the magic of the monarchs.

mike_c

(36,281 posts)
28. the best thing anyone can do for both the eastern and western populations...
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 05:58 PM
Jan 2014

...is to plant milkweeds. The two main threats to monarchs are loss of breeding habitat and overwintering mortality, which is especially bad for the eastern population that overwinters in central Mexico. Winter storms, illegal logging, and bark beetle outbreaks have caused significant mortality in overwintering populations.

bananas

(27,509 posts)
33. Maybe something like this could be set up?
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 12:25 AM
Jan 2014
The Nature Conservancy used the vast data set on bird spring arrival dates and locations compiled through the popular birdwatcher app, eBird to pinpoint when and where wetland habitat needed to be created. The Conservancy then asked rice farmers along the flyway to submit bids on how much it would cost to keep their fields flooded for a few extra weeks — essentially renting out habitat for birds at around $45 an acre.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/101683841

The Stranger

(11,297 posts)
30. Their name seems so appropos.
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 09:03 PM
Jan 2014

Monarchs.

Good bye, little friends.

I'm so sorry we couldn't save you.

Joe Shlabotnik

(5,604 posts)
32. Were so screwed.
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 12:20 AM
Jan 2014

The factions who govern us, supported by a global idiocracy can't even agree on how to rearrange the deckchairs.

CountAllVotes

(20,882 posts)
34. How sad
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 07:20 AM
Jan 2014

Years ago I remember my late father looking at some Monach butterflies and he said, "These used to be all over the place. Now there are so few of them."

Dad died over 15 years ago. This news would break his heart and mine hurts enough already.

sendero

(28,552 posts)
35. So sad..
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 08:40 AM
Jan 2014

.... I remember when I was a teen in the 60s and riding my motorcycle on an aimless trip. I turned off the freeway onto a small highway that headed southwest towards the tiny towns south of Fort Worth. After riding 20 miles or so I saw a monarch. Then another, and then they were everywhere. They seemed to float on the air, they were so graceful. I still remember the euphoria that swept over me seeing this loose swarm of one of natures' most beautiful creatures drifting southward.

I've seen a few since then but will undoubtedly never see anything like that again.

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