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Redfairen

(1,276 posts)
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 02:23 AM Mar 2014

Japan considers Bitcoin tax after MtGox failure

Source: Agence France Presse

Japan is looking at ways to tax Bitcoin transactions, a report said Tuesday, in the wake of the spectacular failure of the Tokyo-based MtGox exchange after a half-billion-dollar theft.

The finance ministry and the national tax agency are studying possible rules that could govern transactions using the digital currency, the Yomiuri Shimbun newspaper said.

Authorities believe purchases made with Bitcoin can be subject to consumption and corporate taxes, even though the unit is not a legal currency, the Yomiuri said without citing sources.

"However, many countries including Japan do not have concrete frameworks to levy taxes (on Bitcoin transactions)," the Yomiuri said, leaving officials basically stumped.


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Japan considers Bitcoin tax after MtGox failure (Original Post) Redfairen Mar 2014 OP
Since the whole point of Bitcoin is to enable totally anonymous transactions ... Kablooie Mar 2014 #1
In theory, it should be no different than barter. Xithras Mar 2014 #3
I guess when you first use cash to buy Bitcoins there will be a record of that. Kablooie Mar 2014 #4
Hahaha good luck with that. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #2

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
1. Since the whole point of Bitcoin is to enable totally anonymous transactions ...
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 03:40 AM
Mar 2014

it seems unlikely that people who use Bitcoin will voluntarily tell the government what they've been doing.

There is no way to track who sends and who receives Bitcoins.
Even the sender and receiver don't have any way to track down each other.
It's completely anonymous.

It's a new world out there.
The old minds that run governments don't have a clue.

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
3. In theory, it should be no different than barter.
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 01:20 PM
Mar 2014

Business barter exchanges have existed for many decades, and are taxable in most countries. Here in the U.S., failure to report noncash transactions to the IRS is tax fraud and can land you in prison. The medium of the exchange is irrelevant.

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
4. I guess when you first use cash to buy Bitcoins there will be a record of that.
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 01:53 PM
Mar 2014

But from that point on there will be no record unless the Bitcoins are converted back to cash.

Bitcoin is regularly used to buy illegal drugs and other illegal services so I wouldn't expect a lot of reporting to be going on.

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