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El Supremo

(20,365 posts)
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 06:12 PM Mar 2014

Amid Ukraine Crisis, Key Senator Urges Plan B for Space

Source: NBC

CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. — As relations between the United States and Russia deteriorate due to the crisis in Ukraine, Sen. Bill Nelson, D-Fla., is calling attention to concerns about the two nations' joint venture on the International Space Station.

Nelson, who flew on the space shuttle Columbia in 1986 and now chairs the Senate's subcommittee on science and space policy, said the situation in Ukraine illustrates why it's "vital" for NASA to support the development of U.S. commercial spaceships.

"We’ve got to properly fund and support commercial spaceflight so we can keep our space program alive and well, no matter happens with Russia," Nelson said in a statement late Monday.

Since America's shuttle fleet was grounded in 2011, Russia has been flying U.S. astronauts to and from the International outpost at a cost of up to $70 million per seat. If Russia should suddenly refuse to fly Americans there, the United States could be without the means to keep astronauts aboard the $100 billion-plus outpost.

Read more: http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ukraine-crisis/amid-ukraine-crisis-key-senator-urges-plan-b-space-n55861



About time something wakes up congress about manned space flight.
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AAO

(3,300 posts)
1. Can you imagine the Ruskies docking to the ISS
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 06:33 PM
Mar 2014

and entering with weapons bared, taking over the space station for Muther Russia? What would we do?

Igel

(35,300 posts)
2. We'd blather on about "legitimate interests" and "sphere of influence".
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 06:43 PM
Mar 2014

And how we have more important things here at home to deal with.

Xolodno

(6,390 posts)
7. Cold War mentality...
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 07:56 PM
Mar 2014

No....Russia would force only American's off the Space Station and then demand that China take their place....ESA will agree.

madinmaryland

(64,933 posts)
4. We have spent many trillions on the MIC and various wars, yet we cannot properly fund
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 07:17 PM
Mar 2014

our own space exploration? We basically gave up in the late 80's and early 90's just using the Space Shuttle until it's life ended.

Imagine what we could have done without the wars, the MIC, the PIC, the tax cuts, and without REAGAN.




kentauros

(29,414 posts)
8. Have you ever noticed, too, how the media reports on the space program?
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 08:13 PM
Mar 2014

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It's rare that they say simply "the International Space Station" or "the ISS." Rather it's always prefixed with the total cost of said space platform or launch system.

Yet, I never see them report on the military the same way, such as "the $4.5 billion USS Dwight D. Eisenhower aircraft carrier" or "the $70 million V-22 Osprey." The only times costs come up is if there's a claim of massive pork going on.

And they've been reporting on NASA like that for decades. It's almost as if they want to see NASA fail, by any means.

madinmaryland

(64,933 posts)
9. The M$M reports on NASA? Whoda thunk!!
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 08:36 PM
Mar 2014

Why does NASA require accountability and the MIC does not? I would say that the MIC can use the "scare" factor whereas NASA can use only use the "intelligent" factor. We all know who will win that battle.


kentauros

(29,414 posts)
10. Maybe we can suggest to Dr. Neil Degrasse Tyson
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 08:47 PM
Mar 2014

that the next time he's interviewed and costs come up for him to take issue with it and really push back at the M$M for their lousy reporting style. He'd do that!

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
12. I always thought it was a mistake grounding the space shuttles
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 09:35 PM
Mar 2014

I know the fleet was pretty old and the chances of an accident increase, but being able to get into space independent of other countries should be a priority. It was short-sided to depend on any country to get a "lift" into space and back. IMHO we made a mistake scraping the program.

El Supremo

(20,365 posts)
13. You all are missing the point: "Commercial Spaceflight" is supposed to do this.
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 09:50 PM
Mar 2014

Like, sure. How much longer will it take Elon Musk or Richard Branson to get people up there?

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
14. That's all well and good
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 09:57 PM
Mar 2014

I support commercial spaceflight. I am agreeing with you. We don't know how long it will take. Originally I thought the goal was like 2016 or 2017. It may be 2020 at this point.

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