Obama Urges Putin to Back Down or Face New Sanctions
Source: Bloomberg
By Julianna Goldman, Mike Dorning and Daria Marchak Mar 25, 2014 12:14 PM ET
President Barack Obama urged Russia to de-escalate the crisis over Ukraine or face the consequences of more sanctions if it encroaches further into the east of the country after its annexation of Crimea.
President Vladimir Putin has to understand that theres a choice to be made here, Obama told a news conference after a 53-nation nuclear-security summit in The Hague today, saying theres another path open to the Russian leader. It is now up to Russia to act responsibly and show itself once again willing to abide by international rules and international norms.
Obama spoke a day after he and his fellow Group of Seven leaders said they wont attend a planned Group of Eight summit in the Russian Black Sea resort of Sochi, the venue for the Winter Olympics, and will instead hold their own meeting in June in Brussels.
Russia has consolidated control over Crimea and is maintaining forces along the border with Ukraine, in what Obama said appears to be an effort of intimidation, in the most serious confrontation with the U.S. and its allies since the Soviet Union collapsed. The International Monetary Fund is set to make an announcement tomorrow after talks about a bailout loan for Ukraine, Finance Minister Oleksandr Shlapak said.
Read more: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-03-25/obama-urges-putin-to-back-down-in-ukraine-or-face-more-sanctions.html
Skinner
(63,645 posts)Purveyor
(29,876 posts)Huffing and puffing is better than tearing off faces and hands
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)This keeps being referred to.
That's a 1400 mile border and I refuse to believe there are no surveillance pictures. How come none are ever published ?
go west young man
(4,856 posts)I know your from the UK...but in the states your supposed to trust the MSM and just take em for their word. They are never wrong about anything and would never lie to you like that propaganda outfit RT! That pesky RT that kept saying there were no WMD's in Iraq. Lying Russian communist red scaring evilempire horseback riding bare chested LGBT hating imperialist soviet swamp dwelling Russia rats who can't even hold a decent olympics!
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)Lame and detached from reality come to mind. Best reports have been from BBC and Sky reporters on the spot.
go west young man
(4,856 posts)which surprised me to be honest..as I felt the BBC had gone quite crap in the last 5 years. But their reporting on the ground was impressive..especially as American reporters don't really do investigative journalism any more (cuts into the budget I guess, got milk every penny, plus one can actually die doing it). I was thrown for a loop by the Guardians coverage which seemed to really drop the ball compared to the Guardian of the past. No investigative on the ground reporting and seeming to simply tow the line for the powers that be in the UK. They had no perspective of the other side as they used to.
In the full BBC clip the reporter is actually shot at by the Maidan sniper. It hits less than 20 feet away. They edit out the "Fuck!" for the short version. Then he takes cover and points out the window of the shooter. Great footage...unfortunately not seen in the United States.
Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)And I hope we slap that asshole with more sanctions. Obama is right on this one. Sanctions are the way to go. Sanctions have gotten stuff done and kept us out of needless wars.
uhnope
(6,419 posts)dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)That was decided last Friday.
uhnope
(6,419 posts)another_liberal
(8,821 posts)I'm sure we and our allies would be happy to guarantee such an agreement will be upheld, just like we guaranteed the truce Yanukovich signed. You know, the truce he signed twenty-four hours before we overthrew his government and replaced him as Ukrainian President with our hand-picked, Harvard-educated "technocrat."
I can't imagine why President Putin wouldn't just jump at a deal like that?
(sarcasm intended, of course)
Kolesar
(31,182 posts)I have seen vague references to that. I am a skeptic.
Putin's puppet was not good to Ukraine.
another_liberal
(8,821 posts)Our involvement in his violent overthrow is well documented in the public record. Here is only one piece, though a damning piece, of that evidence:
Any American who wants to continue living in a democracy should oppose what we have done in Ukraine.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)Why are we getting into this. Argh.
What moral authority do we have to stand on for this? We gave Russia the finger before we knocked over an entire country.
Sigh.
nyabingi
(1,145 posts)...with Russia, there is very little sanctions are going to do to deter Putin. We are losing sight of the fact that Putin is reacting to something the US and Eu initiated (helping install of government in Kiev hostile to Russia), now Obama and McCain are standing on television telling Putin to de-escalate? How 'bout Obama reign in Victoria Nuland and the other neo-cons he has in his State department first?
1000words
(7,051 posts)Catherina
(35,568 posts)How's that for a joke? The wife of Robert Kagan, founder of PNAC, as the Assistant Secretary of State. How's that for a joke?
Nihil
(13,508 posts)> The wife of Robert Kagan, founder of PNAC, as the Assistant Secretary of State. How's that for a joke?
PNAC.
Monsanto execs.
War-hawks.
Fossil fuel corps.
It's only because the current Republicans are so right-wing that the current administration
can still retain the name "Democratic" ...
nyabingi
(1,145 posts)uhnope
(6,419 posts)You might want to check in with the people of Eastern Europe before you decide they are all just puppets for the US. They want democracy and are sick of dictators and corruption.
nyabingi
(1,145 posts)You might want to look into the work of the National Endowment for Democracy (NED) and its branches operating around the world working to undermine governments we deem unfriendly to our financial interests (which are called "security" issues for public consumption). The NED sponsored all of these "colored revolutions" and pretty much does the work of the CIA through aiding rebellions and funding, many time, anti-democratic people and movements.
The fact that the US Congress and Obama both are leaping over each other to offer assistance to Kiev's coup-installed government should tell you something. Don't be blind to what's going on just because you like the president.
uhnope
(6,419 posts)dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)and whether or not any payments will be made prior to Ukraine's presidential elections 25th May.
ozone_man
(4,825 posts)I'm sure Greece will be very interested to hear how austere the loans will be.
christx30
(6,241 posts)Crimea with its billions of dollars in land, military bases and equipment, that debt is paid off, and then some.
Thieves piss me off.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)By Pepe Escobar
But here, in a People's Daily editorial, is what the leadership is really thinking. And the focus is clearly on the dangers of regime change, the "West's inability to understand the lessons of history", and "the final battlefield of the Cold War."
...
While the Western dogs bark
Russia and China are strategic partners - at the G-20, at the BRICS club of emerging powers and at the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO). Their number one objective, in these and other forums, is the emergence of a multipolar world; no bullying by the American Empire of Bases, a more balanced international financial system, no more petrodollar eminence, a basket of currencies, essentially a "win-win" approach to global economic development.
A multipolar world also implies, by definition, NATO out of Eurasia - which is from Washington's point of view the number one reason to interfere in Ukraine. In Eurasian terms, it's as if - being booted out of Afghanistan by a bunch of peasants with Kalashnikovs - NATO was pivoting back via Ukraine.
While Russia and China are key strategic partners in the energy sphere - Pipelineistan and beyond - they do overlap in their race to do deals across Central Asia. Beijing is building not only one but two New Silk Roads - across Southeast Asia and across Central Asia, involving pipelines, railways and fiber optic networks, and reaching as far as Istanbul, the getaway to Europe. Yet as far as Russia-China competition for markets go, all across Eurasia, it's more under a "win-win" umbrella than a zero-sum game.
On Ukraine ("the last battlefield in the Cold War" and specifically Crimea, the (unspoken) official position by Beijing is absolute neutrality (re: the UN vote). Yet the real deal is support to Moscow. But this could never be out in the open, because Beijing is not interested in antagonizing the West, unless heavily provoked (the pivoting becoming hardcore encirclement, for instance). Never forget; since Deng Xiaoping ("keep a low profile" this is, and will continue to be, about China's "peaceful rise". Meanwhile, the Western dogs bark, and the Sino-Russian caravan passes.
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/CEN-02-200314.html
AAO
(3,300 posts)It won't make a bit of difference. Putin is THE DEBIL!!!
ozone_man
(4,825 posts)Otherwise, he has no leg to stand on.
Cha
(297,196 posts)for asking the question.
"Obama told a news conference after a 53-nation nuclear-security summit in The Hague today, saying theres another path open to the Russian leader. It is now up to Russia to act responsibly and show itself once again willing to abide by international rules and international norms.
Good for President Obama and "The West".. and oh yeah, fuck Putin.
Purveyor
(29,876 posts)your 'bonus points'.
Cha
(297,196 posts)has to watch the out of control shit around here.
Purveyor
(29,876 posts)is your agenda other than to 'suck ass' in doing this victory lap?
Cha
(297,196 posts)Purveyor
(29,876 posts)Cha
(297,196 posts)Purveyor
(29,876 posts)quadrature
(2,049 posts)1) do nothing
2) the obvious
.............
anything else?