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hue

(4,949 posts)
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 04:58 PM Apr 2014

Paul Ryan releases House GOP budget plan

Source: USA TODAY

WASHINGTON — House Budget Chairman Paul Ryan, R-Wis., released a fiscal road map for the next decade that would raise no taxes, repeal President Obama's health care law, and fundamentally alter Medicare benefits for future retirees. Ryan claims the result would be a balanced budget by 2024.

The budget plan is not expected or really even intended to become law; it is designed to outline Republican priorities and goals for taxes and spending over the long term. But the GOP-led House of Representatives will spend the next two weeks debating it anyway.

The Ryan budget would cut spending by $5.1 trillion over the next decade to achieve balance by what the government spends to what it collects in revenue by 2024.
Those cuts come in the form of steep cuts to domestic programs ranging from food stamps to college loan programs, among others, while protecting defense spending. House Minority Whip Steny Hoyer, D-Md., criticized the plan as a budget that "once again asks those with less to give more and those with more to give less."

Ryan's plan also calculates savings that Democrats decry as gimmicks, such as counting savings projected to come from the Affordable Care Act while simultaneously calling for its repeal. In order to achieve balance, Ryan also uses a new method to account for savings by counting the "macroeconomic effect" of deficit reduction as a hard spending cut, which could chafe some of the GOP's fiscal conservatives who do not like to equate potential reductions with actual cuts.

Read more: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2014/04/01/paul-ryan-budget/7153195/?AID=10709313&PID=6149995&SID=33h98wjv0ee6



Ryan's plan to kill the ACA...
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Paul Ryan releases House GOP budget plan (Original Post) hue Apr 2014 OP
Wonder what the 7 million (plus) will have to say about an ACA repeal. nt FLyellowdog Apr 2014 #1
Idiot extaordinaire. n/t aggiesal Apr 2014 #2
Hey, Bozo! Have you and your friends to cough up the trillions for the Iraq invasion lie! KansDem Apr 2014 #3
+1000000000000 SoapBox Apr 2014 #9
Another reason to hold the Senate and take the House... Historic NY Apr 2014 #4
More stupid quotes like these are just waiting for an ad.... Timez Squarez Apr 2014 #22
You can kiss this country good bye if these Tyrants take the Senate . Take them out in 2014 . geretogo Apr 2014 #5
He also proposed a 5% pay cut for Federal Employees. NutmegYankee Apr 2014 #6
actually the 7 million are JUST through the Exchange....the real number is VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #7
Where do you get 18 million? Boreal Apr 2014 #27
What a vile creature atreides1 Apr 2014 #8
Actually, Paul Ryan is trying to make the unthinkable thinkable. Stonepounder Apr 2014 #10
excellent analysis Skittles Apr 2014 #26
Yep, also the middle class would have to compensate paying taxes for Iliyah Apr 2014 #12
I would NEVER trust this creep with any "budget". SoapBox Apr 2014 #11
The U.S. middle class was better off in the 60's when the top tax bracket was 70%! vkkv Apr 2014 #13
Are you shitting me? jmowreader Apr 2014 #15
More chest beating from the right Populist_Prole Apr 2014 #14
Ryan thinks that the government, with it's vast resources........ Trust Buster Apr 2014 #16
I wonder if the president will lambaste it, or point out that Doctor_J Apr 2014 #17
He will lambaste it. n/t savalez Apr 2014 #19
Matthew 25:31-46 GaltFreeDiet Apr 2014 #18
People, people. Look at your calendars. You all got pwned by Ryan. BlueStreak Apr 2014 #20
Translation: Austerity As Far As The Eye Can See DallasNE Apr 2014 #21
Ryan is now scheduled to lose big in Janesville. Timez Squarez Apr 2014 #23
Ayn Ryan strikes again. rickyhall Apr 2014 #24
Everything I need to know about Paul Ryan Midnight Writer Apr 2014 #25
Paul who? n/t VWolf Apr 2014 #28

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
3. Hey, Bozo! Have you and your friends to cough up the trillions for the Iraq invasion lie!
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 05:07 PM
Apr 2014

That'll result in a "balanced budget."

Savvy?

Historic NY

(37,453 posts)
4. Another reason to hold the Senate and take the House...
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 05:08 PM
Apr 2014

but most people here think it a game..... Here's your GOP salesman!!!!!!!!! He is selling the agenda they want to accomplish.

 

Timez Squarez

(262 posts)
22. More stupid quotes like these are just waiting for an ad....
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 10:20 PM
Apr 2014

and more importantly, it shows how stupid the Republicans are.

Message to an ad: Do you want to vote this smart guy or this idiot who is likely to fuck up your life and not care.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
7. actually the 7 million are JUST through the Exchange....the real number is
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 05:20 PM
Apr 2014

9.5 million when you count the numbers that went directly to the insurance companies themselves. Before the Affordable Care Act. 18 million were without insurance...Pres. Obama just took a chunk out of that number...

 

Boreal

(725 posts)
27. Where do you get 18 million?
Wed Apr 2, 2014, 02:27 AM
Apr 2014

Prior to passing the ACA the figures given were always 40-50 million.


Uninsured Americans 2012: More Than 45 Million Lacked Health Insurance Last Year, CDC Reports

More than 45 million U.S. residents didn't have health insurance during the first nine months of last year, according to survey findings released Thursday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Even more people, 57.5 million, were uninsured for at least part of the 12 months before being polled.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/21/uninsured-americans-2012_n_2918705.html

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
10. Actually, Paul Ryan is trying to make the unthinkable thinkable.
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 05:43 PM
Apr 2014

It used to be that Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid were the 'third rail' of politics. Now, thank to Ryan's extreme suggestions (privatization and the like), talking about 'Chained CPI' which is just another way to cut Social Security, is something that is seriously considered because it is so much more 'moderate'.

This is how you shift the discussion. (Warning: abrupt change of topic to make a point here.) Before Columbine, taking a gun into a school and opening fire on kids was 'unthinkable'. Now it happens with almost mind numbing regularity. Why? Once something occurs, it is no longer 'unthinkable'.

Before Ryan, cutting Social Security or privatizing Medicare was 'unthinkable'. Now inside the beltway they discuss it seriously. It is no longer 'unthinkable.

I remember when Barry Goldwater ran for President. One of the main reasons he lost was because he was 'so extreme'. Today Goldwater would be damn near a Progressive. That's how far real extremists have managed to shift the conversation. And that's what Paul Ryan is accomplishing with his so-called budget.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
12. Yep, also the middle class would have to compensate paying taxes for
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 05:43 PM
Apr 2014

the rich since he's gonna give them a break. There you have it, the GOP/Libertarian/RW solution to the new world.

 

vkkv

(3,384 posts)
13. The U.S. middle class was better off in the 60's when the top tax bracket was 70%!
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 05:46 PM
Apr 2014

... that was back when we were "fighting communists" - not BORROWING MONEY from them.

jmowreader

(50,563 posts)
15. Are you shitting me?
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 06:04 PM
Apr 2014

The UPPER CLASS was better off in the 60's when the top tax bracket was 70%!

Here's something funny: If you take rich people who earn their livings selling things to people, and you structure the tax code to encourage employment in good-paying jobs like it was in the 60s, and the people with those jobs buy things from the rich people, THE RICH PEOPLE END UP WITH MORE MONEY!

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
14. More chest beating from the right
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 05:51 PM
Apr 2014

Political masturbation to be more succint:

"The budget plan is not expected or really even intended to become law; it is designed to outline Republican priorities and goals for taxes and spending over the long term"

Go down swinging as well they may; but go down they will.

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
16. Ryan thinks that the government, with it's vast resources........
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 06:05 PM
Apr 2014

......cannot handle the medical cost curve so he believes by turning Medicare into a voucher system, a senior on a fixed income will be able to handle that same cost curve. Total lunacy.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
17. I wonder if the president will lambaste it, or point out that
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 06:57 PM
Apr 2014

"it has many useful things and we will work together to find common ground"

Anyone want to bet on which?

GaltFreeDiet

(72 posts)
18. Matthew 25:31-46
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 07:23 PM
Apr 2014

People need to show up wherever he is speaking publicly with a sign that has that printed on it.
Just like the "John 3:16" folks at football games.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
20. People, people. Look at your calendars. You all got pwned by Ryan.
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 08:56 PM
Apr 2014

Last edited Wed Apr 2, 2014, 01:02 AM - Edit history (1)

You notice he waited until April Fools Day to put out a document that says he's going to end Medicare, end Social Security, end the ACA, and give a whole new round of tax cuts to the richest.

There is only one day every year then this idiot makes a lick of sense. And you all fell for it.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
21. Translation: Austerity As Far As The Eye Can See
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 09:33 PM
Apr 2014

Ten more years of austerity is the Ryan blueprint. Somehow the infrastructure is going to stop aging. I wonder how that works. Accelerates the transfer of money to the top .01%. In other words, a recipe for disaster. Thanks Paul Ryan.

 

Timez Squarez

(262 posts)
23. Ryan is now scheduled to lose big in Janesville.
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 10:22 PM
Apr 2014

I am hearing a lot of unhappy constituents ready to dump Ryan and make him work in his Weinermobile for the rest of his life as a punishment earning $2.50 an hour driving the stupid car.

Midnight Writer

(21,803 posts)
25. Everything I need to know about Paul Ryan
Wed Apr 2, 2014, 12:58 AM
Apr 2014

When teenage Paul Ryan's father died, he claimed Social Security Survivor benefits to put him through college, although his father's estate left him relatively wealthy. Now he wants to cut these benefits and other programs to help college kids get an education.

In September 2008, as a Congressman he attended a secret briefing revealing the true state of America's banking system and the information that the economy was headed for a sharp nose-dive. Like a true patriot, he went straight to his office, called his broker and dumped his stock before the rest of the country realized the extent of the financial crisis.

That's really all I need to know about Paul Ryan.

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