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Larry the Cable Dude

(56 posts)
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 07:36 PM Apr 2014

'We did our duty and have no regrets': Juror who cleared George Zimmerman breaks her silence...

Source: Daily Mail

A juror in the George Zimmerman trial has broken her silence to reveal she has no regrets about acquitting the neighborhood watch volunteer of murdering teenager Trayvon Martin.

The 62 year old said: 'I have no regrets. We were all just doing our duty'.

Speaking for the first time since Zimmerman was cleared of second degree murder last July the juror added that she and the other five women on the panel had moved on with their lives.

'We have all moved on. I don't talk about it, and as far as I know the others do not talk about it. Whatever I say now could just stir things up and be read the wrong way. I do not want that.





Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2599437/EXCLUSIVE-We-did-duty-no-regrets-Everyone-moved-Juror-cleared-George-Zimmerman-breaks-silence-reveals-women-jury-secret-meeting-Christmas.html

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'We did our duty and have no regrets': Juror who cleared George Zimmerman breaks her silence... (Original Post) Larry the Cable Dude Apr 2014 OP
Suck on it. Iliyah Apr 2014 #1
It's always been open season on Black people in this country MrScorpio Apr 2014 #2
racists JI7 Apr 2014 #3
If she's moved on, why'd she even bother with the interview? Chakab Apr 2014 #4
exactly Skittles Apr 2014 #5
She said she has no regrets over anything Larry the Cable Dude Apr 2014 #6
did you not read the post I was replying to? Skittles Apr 2014 #17
Blame the prosecutors... Hip_Flask Apr 2014 #40
you had to believe Zimmerman's RIDICULOUS story Skittles Apr 2014 #45
"No regrets" but she doesn't want to "stir things up" ??? Ash_F Apr 2014 #7
"Exclusive interview" suggests "paid interview". ManiacJoe Apr 2014 #8
I think the prosecution Niceguy1 Apr 2014 #9
Zimmerman couldn't have picked a better prosecution team if he would have been allowed. (n/t) spin Apr 2014 #15
It was the prosecution that Rick Scott selected for GZ csziggy Apr 2014 #25
Revolting. And she sitll has the job. n/t freshwest Apr 2014 #26
Well she's getting the results Scott wants csziggy Apr 2014 #32
WTF? blackspade Apr 2014 #10
Believe in Freud cosmicone Apr 2014 #11
Many of Freud's unscientific theories have been disproved Larry the Cable Dude Apr 2014 #16
many, BUT NOT ALL Skittles Apr 2014 #34
It was just a black kid. Lots more where that came from. onehandle Apr 2014 #12
Of course she has no regrets BillZBubb Apr 2014 #13
"We have all moved on." Not all. Not one. n/t jtuck004 Apr 2014 #14
clueless gun humping racists have moved on Skittles Apr 2014 #18
Well, guns are the new glory suit. nt onehandle Apr 2014 #19
Since that OP was hidden maybe you can explain here what you were trying to say with that (nt) The Straight Story Apr 2014 #23
What does that mean? Hip_Flask Apr 2014 #41
A "glory suit" is a another term for KKK robes. The poster is implying that gun owners = KKK. Jgarrick Apr 2014 #42
Ohh... Well that's... ummm... Hip_Flask Apr 2014 #43
I guess for some people... New Orleans Strong Apr 2014 #20
She's probably a Conservative Republican. So, yeah. "No regrets." blkmusclmachine Apr 2014 #21
She is correct. Nye Bevan Apr 2014 #22
exactly bossy22 Apr 2014 #29
Must be nice to be able to move on with your life. geomon666 Apr 2014 #24
No right to life for someone who got stalked cprise Apr 2014 #27
The jury's job isn't to decide who's "right" and who's "wrong" bossy22 Apr 2014 #28
The crime has to fit into a constitutional context cprise Apr 2014 #30
well that is not how are system works bossy22 Apr 2014 #31
The 'system' varies from state to state cprise Apr 2014 #33
You mean like the "west coast court" that found OJ Simpson not guilty? Nye Bevan Apr 2014 #35
Glaring difference between those cases. cprise Apr 2014 #36
Right, but the prosecution did not prove its case beyond a reasonable doubt. (nt) Nye Bevan Apr 2014 #37
Only by some "New Normal" standard. cprise Apr 2014 #38
When credible witnesses testified to seeing Trayvon on top of Zimmerman, Nye Bevan Apr 2014 #39
GEE Skittles Apr 2014 #46
And part and parcel of sensible gun control is to follow a neighbor's son around for no valid reason LanternWaste Apr 2014 #48
In the end it came down to the fact that Zimmerman had a story... Hip_Flask Apr 2014 #44
no Skittles Apr 2014 #47
Please stop me before I say something and stir things up! yellowcanine Apr 2014 #49

Skittles

(153,160 posts)
17. did you not read the post I was replying to?
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 08:32 PM
Apr 2014

no WAY can a rational person look at that unhinged gun humping bastard and have any doubt who the aggressor was - no fucking WAY

 

Hip_Flask

(233 posts)
40. Blame the prosecutors...
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 09:02 AM
Apr 2014

... for not even coming up with a coherant theory to counter Zimmerman's.

Anyone with an ounce of objectivity could tell that the case was doomed from the start.

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
7. "No regrets" but she doesn't want to "stir things up" ???
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 07:50 PM
Apr 2014

How about shutting up and not saying any sentence with "no regret" in it?

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
8. "Exclusive interview" suggests "paid interview".
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 07:55 PM
Apr 2014

It's hard to blame the jury based on what the prosecution gave to them as a case.

Niceguy1

(2,467 posts)
9. I think the prosecution
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 07:58 PM
Apr 2014

Soley Bears the blame for the lack of a conviction.

They screwwd up big time.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
25. It was the prosecution that Rick Scott selected for GZ
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 09:25 PM
Apr 2014

Zimmerman didn't have to worry - Scott wanted the result and got it.

Look at Angela Corey's interview the night of the verdict - she was smirking and preening because she achieved her assignment. I wouldn't have been surprised if she had hung a "Mission Accomplished" banner behind her and her prosecution team.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
10. WTF?
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 07:59 PM
Apr 2014
Whatever I say now could just stir things up and be read the wrong way. I do not want that.


Then maybe you should have just kept your fucking mouth shut?

Nice to know that she has moved on. Too bad Travon didn't get that opportunity thanks to Zimmerdouche.
 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
11. Believe in Freud
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 08:10 PM
Apr 2014

when she says she has no regrets, it actually means she regrets and is using denial to make her psyche feel better.

A good therapist could get her to sing and cry about how wrong she was with just a few words ...

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
12. It was just a black kid. Lots more where that came from.
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 08:16 PM
Apr 2014

What's the big deal?

...says the core of racism that is GUN CULTURE!

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
13. Of course she has no regrets
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 08:17 PM
Apr 2014

After all it was just a black kid killed by someone not black. How could he be guilty of anything?

New Orleans Strong

(212 posts)
20. I guess for some people...
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 08:46 PM
Apr 2014

...belonging to the white race is good enough. Me? The Human Race is where I want to be. So much better. So. Much. Better.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
22. She is correct.
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 09:00 PM
Apr 2014

While I think Zimmerman is a despicable human being, the prosecution failed to prove his guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

Similarly, although I (and I suspect most other DUers) believe that OJ Simpson was guilty of murder, I understand how the presence of the racist cop Mark Furhman in the investigation team cast reasonable doubt into the minds of the jurors.

bossy22

(3,547 posts)
28. The jury's job isn't to decide who's "right" and who's "wrong"
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 11:55 PM
Apr 2014

They are there to decide whether if the prosecution has proved beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant is guilty of the crime he is CHARGED with. All the prosecution proved was that no one is completely sure what happened that day.

cprise

(8,445 posts)
30. The crime has to fit into a constitutional context
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 12:12 AM
Apr 2014

If a law is phrased in a way that dismisses the value of someone's life as "not under consideration" then it should be struck down and/or ignored.

Stop defending aggressive killers and their enablers in government.

bossy22

(3,547 posts)
31. well that is not how are system works
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 12:25 AM
Apr 2014

Again, the jury isn't their to be an arbitrator of good vs evil. What you suggest is a form of judicial anarchy. Are you suggesting that the jury should have ignored "reasonable doubt"?

On edit: The value of someone's life is taken into consideration, but just because someone kills another person doesn't mean there has to be a conviction. We have a thing called "justifiable homicide". I'd venture to guess that you don't believe any homicide is justified...no matter the circumstances

cprise

(8,445 posts)
33. The 'system' varies from state to state
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 01:13 AM
Apr 2014

First, let's not pretend that a New England or west coast court would have likely found Zimmermann not guilty. What we're seeing is an escalation of race and class war that varies from place to place, and rests on novel changes in how the perception of threats are treated by the courts. In a place like Florida, which has a Stand You Ground law, it is only the perception of the survivor that matters, and only the survivor stands to gain from benefit of the doubt.

No one in the trial thought that a response from Martin would be understandable under the circumstances (and therefore place an expectation on Zimmermann to anticipate any reaction) because no one allowed it.

The simple fact is that Zimmermann never saw a weapon on Martin (unless the former was hallucinating) and he put himself into physical conflict with Martin by pursuing him by vehicle and foot... aggressive behavior that he initiated. Zimmermann therefore has a burden of proof in light of the fact that he did actually initiate the conflict and shoot Martin dead.

BTW, accusing anyone of supporting any kind of "anarchy" when defending a precedent that encourages people to run after and shoot "scary" individuals on the streets is the height of irony.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
35. You mean like the "west coast court" that found OJ Simpson not guilty?
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 08:11 AM
Apr 2014

In all 50 states the law is that the prosecution has to prove its case beyond a reasonable doubt.

cprise

(8,445 posts)
36. Glaring difference between those cases.
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 08:21 AM
Apr 2014

We know absolutely that Zimmermann killed Martin. The defence didn't dispute that.

cprise

(8,445 posts)
38. Only by some "New Normal" standard.
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 08:51 AM
Apr 2014

Zimmermann initiated hostile pursuit of Martin and was persistent. That's proof that Zimmermann was taking responsibility for both of their lives, moreso since he was armed.

Having X number of intervening seconds unknown (despite the defence's lying about who was crying out for help) does not change that, and insisting that they decide the case is promoting a completely unrealistic standard of proof that makes no sense in the real world. Also, lying is normally taken as a clear indication in court that the defendant is covering up a real criminal act.

Some degree of manslaughter or murder must be applied, or else sanction wild west style anarchy on the streets.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
39. When credible witnesses testified to seeing Trayvon on top of Zimmerman,
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 08:56 AM
Apr 2014

pounding him "MMA style", I can understand how reasonable doubt was in the jurors' minds.

The best way to stop "wild west anarchy" is to have sensible gun control. Without the gun in the picture, things would have ended very differently.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
48. And part and parcel of sensible gun control is to follow a neighbor's son around for no valid reason
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 03:51 PM
Apr 2014

"is to have sensible gun control..."

And part and parcel of sensible gun control is to follow a neighbor's son around for no valid reason while armed to prevent him from using his iced tea and skittles in a reprehensible manner...

 

Hip_Flask

(233 posts)
44. In the end it came down to the fact that Zimmerman had a story...
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 09:34 AM
Apr 2014

... that went step by step and the prosecution was inconsistent and didn't have a real theory to counter it.

Oh, and don't forget the terrible terrible terrrrrible closing arguments.

Skittles

(153,160 posts)
47. no
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 03:43 PM
Apr 2014

in the end they chose to believe the story of a paranoid, gun humping stalking piece of SHIT over the story of - oh wait, the teenager who was simply WALKING HOME FROM THE STORE MINDING HIS OWN BUSINESS cannot TELL his story

only one of those two guys was looking for trouble, and he found it.........ironic thing is, Zimmerman's life would be better if justice had been served - as it is now, his life is a sick joke, just like him

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
49. Please stop me before I say something and stir things up!
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 04:54 PM
Apr 2014

Nice she could move on with her life though. Huh. And here I thought a trial was about justice, not the lives of the jury.

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