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Omaha Steve

(99,618 posts)
Sun May 4, 2014, 02:08 PM May 2014

Circus Acrobats Plunge in Horrifying Collapse

Source: ABC News

A group of acrobats fell in the middle of a circus performance in Providence, R.I., today when the device suspending them suddenly collapsed, shocking audience members.

It was unclear how many people were injured or how seriously.

The incident happened about an hour and a half into a performance of the Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey Circus at the city's Dunkin' Donuts Center, audience member Sydney Bragg said.

Bragg said there were about 20 performers suspended from the circular structure when it fell. Stage crews lifted it off them, she said.

FULL story at link.


Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/US/aerial-performers-plunge-horrifying-collapse-ri-circus/story?id=23583107





Sydney Bragg tweeted this photo on May 4,2014, "There was an accident at the circus during an act and snapped the performers necks. I'm like skaking and frightened." Sydney Bragg
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Circus Acrobats Plunge in Horrifying Collapse (Original Post) Omaha Steve May 2014 OP
Horrible! Algernon Moncrieff May 2014 #1
Video here itsrobert May 2014 #2
Geez, that's awful geomon666 May 2014 #4
Yes. Nets should be mandatory... Helen Borg May 2014 #23
oof Egnever May 2014 #20
So awful. Bluenorthwest May 2014 #3
omg! what a horrible accident. Sunlei May 2014 #5
I truly wish we could ban these circuses, they are abusive to animals, etc.... secondwind May 2014 #6
When members of the Flying Wallendas family died Warpy May 2014 #7
They need stricter oversight and safety regulations. Coventina May 2014 #8
Petition I posted yesterday Omaha Steve May 2014 #10
At the moment... looks like they are more abusive to humans. Auntie Bush May 2014 #11
This is what happens when they push the limits. From time to time they find them. Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #9
It wasn't the performers pushing the limits... Auntie Bush May 2014 #12
It's the performers act. They are the ones who designed the equipment.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #13
Maybe there was a mistake made in the set up of the equipment. Mosby May 2014 #14
seems quite possible, since circuses travel and they have to set up and tear down all of the time olddad56 May 2014 #15
I would think they'd tell an engineer what they needed and the engineer would have it made. Auntie Bush May 2014 #16
Friend of mine who did spotlight for them when they were in Huntsville heard wire was substandard. bamademo May 2014 #17
Your friend should probably contact the authorities. FailureToCommunicate May 2014 #19
She just got back in town from her Father's memorial service. bamademo May 2014 #21
I'm sure there is some contract where they assume some responsibility. Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #18
life would be very boring if people never "pushed limits" Skittles May 2014 #22
You can push limits... Helen Borg May 2014 #24
I thought he was insinuating hanging three stories up by the hair was pushing the limits Skittles May 2014 #25
but they didn't fall because they pushed the limits CreekDog May 2014 #26
I think the Providence Rescue team agrees exboyfil May 2014 #27
This was so sad Marrah_G May 2014 #28

Warpy

(111,254 posts)
7. When members of the Flying Wallendas family died
Sun May 4, 2014, 05:15 PM
May 2014

I remember people all saying the same thing, that acts like theirs should be banned. I always thought the part that should have been banned was the "no safety net" part. More of them might be alive today if they'd had one.

People are always going to want to do acrobatics and push the limits and other people are always going to want to watch them try.

I'd like to see the animal acts go, too. Most of them are not willing participants.

Coventina

(27,115 posts)
8. They need stricter oversight and safety regulations.
Sun May 4, 2014, 05:26 PM
May 2014

I'm against an out-and-out ban.

Having said that: I think animal performers SHOULD be banned, as it is cruel to the animals (this is well-documented) and animals cannot give informed consent.

Human-only circuses would be OK if they were run with more attention to safety.

Accidents will always happen, in any human endeavor, but Barnum etc., has a deplorable record.

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
11. At the moment... looks like they are more abusive to humans.
Sun May 4, 2014, 05:37 PM
May 2014

I wonder why we haven't heard any updates on their condition?

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
12. It wasn't the performers pushing the limits...
Sun May 4, 2014, 05:40 PM
May 2014

It was an equipment or mechanical failure. But yes, they do often push the limits...but not this time.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
13. It's the performers act. They are the ones who designed the equipment....
Sun May 4, 2014, 06:11 PM
May 2014

Usually this kind of thing turns out to be an anchor failure and not a cable/rope breaking.

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
16. I would think they'd tell an engineer what they needed and the engineer would have it made.
Sun May 4, 2014, 07:54 PM
May 2014

Heads are going to roll or at least blamed unless cheap defective materials were used.

Maybe the equipment holding the disc up was at fault and was never inspected...who

knows? Anyway, I don't think it was the performers fault... this time.

bamademo

(2,193 posts)
17. Friend of mine who did spotlight for them when they were in Huntsville heard wire was substandard.
Sun May 4, 2014, 08:13 PM
May 2014

Scuttlebutt she heard was rigging was Wal-mart quality.

Circus does their own rigging.

bamademo

(2,193 posts)
21. She just got back in town from her Father's memorial service.
Sun May 4, 2014, 09:53 PM
May 2014

I'm not going to bother her with this now but she met those women and said they were very nice. I think we should let this play out and be investigated.

Helen Borg

(3,963 posts)
24. You can push limits...
Mon May 5, 2014, 06:09 AM
May 2014

And still have safety nets underneath. Pushing limits does not mean risking your life for no reason.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
26. but they didn't fall because they pushed the limits
Mon May 5, 2014, 05:35 PM
May 2014

they fell because one hook broke. that's shoddy engineering, probably negligent engineering. one piece breaks and the whole thing falls? what a joke, what an unfunny joke.

where is the redundancy. the performers did nothing wrong and the thing came down on top of them.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
27. I think the Providence Rescue team agrees
Mon May 5, 2014, 07:12 PM
May 2014

"The carabiner was rated for about 10,000 pounds, and the weight of the performers and the rig that fell was about 1,500 pounds, he said.
"Doughty declined to say if the rigging appeared safe. But Providence Fire Chief Clarence Cunha said his crews would not rely on a single carabiner for safety."

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2014/05/05/309858883/failure-of-steel-d-ring-may-have-caused-circus-accident

Safety factors are usually based on single tensile test. I wonder what the duty cycle was on this piece of equipment. Was it inspected for deformation or cracks after every use?

Personal fall arrest systems (PFAS).

I don't know if the D-ring would be considered the anchorage but it should be since it is a point of failure. Here is the OSHA standard for PFAS. Note a PFAS does not have nearly a severe a duty cycle as this device.

For a single individual:

1915.159(a)(3)
D-rings and snaphooks shall be capable of sustaining a minimum tensile load of 5,000 pounds (22.24 Kn).
1915.159(a)(4)
D-rings and snaphooks shall be proof-tested to a minimum tensile load of 3,600 pounds (16 Kn) without cracking, breaking, or being permanently deformed.

https://www.osha.gov/pls/oshaweb/owadisp.show_document?p_table=STANDARDS&p_id=10275

1915.159(a)(9)
Anchorages shall be capable of supporting at least 5,000 pounds (22.24 Kn) per employee attached, or shall be designed, installed, and used as follows:

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
28. This was so sad
Mon May 5, 2014, 07:18 PM
May 2014

I was in the ER there last night. The nurses said it was "chaotic" but at least everyone lived. Made my kidney stone seem small in comparison.

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