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JI7

(89,252 posts)
Wed May 21, 2014, 01:29 AM May 2014

Assange Threatens to Release Snowden info that Greenwald says Could Endanger Lives

Source: christian science monitor

The presumed tension between anti-secrecy activist Julian Assange and Glenn Greenwald, the arch-disseminator of NSA documents provided by Edward Snowden, erupted into the open yesterday on Twitter. The two sparred publicly over Greenwald's decision to redact a piece of information from a recent story.

The story released yesterday and written by Greenwald and two colleagues, alleges that the US is "secretly intercepting, recording, and archiving the audio of virtually every cell phone conversation on the island nation of the Bahamas." The story, published on First Look Media's Intercept channel, also says that the US is harvesting cellphone metadata from four other countries and names three of them - Mexico, The Philippines and Kenya.

The fifth country? The article says "The Intercept is not naming (it) in response to specific, credible concerns that doing so could lead to increased violence."

Assange is generally assumed to write the Wikileaks Twitter feed (and has been watched doing so.) And he wasn't happy at Greenwald's decision to withhold information.

Read more: http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Security-Watch/Backchannels/2014/0520/Assange-threatens-to-release-Snowden-info-that-Greenwald-says-could-endanger-lives

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Assange Threatens to Release Snowden info that Greenwald says Could Endanger Lives (Original Post) JI7 May 2014 OP
...they're all nuts. SoapBox May 2014 #1
I agree. appacom May 2014 #2
Well, then it's settled then. Hissyspit May 2014 #3
You made me laugh out loud at myself. Thanks appacom May 2014 #25
Judge Someone Else billhicks76 May 2014 #4
+1 n/t dotymed May 2014 #5
You "judge someone else".. her description is dead on. Cha May 2014 #14
Post removed Post removed May 2014 #23
You "stop pretending to be a liberal". Cha May 2014 #24
+1 n/t MBS May 2014 #7
Sibel Edmonds: "Checkbook Journalism & Leaking to the Highest Bidders" Tarheel_Dem May 2014 #9
ICYMI.. Cha May 2014 #13
Which is why real "whistleblowers" are pissed. We're repeatedly told to take GG out of the equation. Tarheel_Dem May 2014 #15
Whistleblowers should be pissed.. snowden isn't one of them.. Now his agent has to deal Cha May 2014 #16
Like I said, this ought to be good. I've even wondered if it was Anonymous who attacked ebay? Tarheel_Dem May 2014 #18
From the start this story has been nothing but a game for those two Blue_Tires May 2014 #6
Ooooh, sounds like somebody's jealous. Two Narcissists going at it. This ought to be good. Tarheel_Dem May 2014 #8
No charges against Assange right now. I'd anticipate that changing to reckless endangerment for 24601 May 2014 #10
no,only Snowden would be charged in relation to the documents JI7 May 2014 #11
Releasing a document is "premeditated murder"? The Stranger May 2014 #12
When he does it after first admitting it will put people in danger, absolutely yes. Look at this 24601 May 2014 #17
No, that's not even close. The Stranger May 2014 #19
It's Afghanistan. JackRiddler May 2014 #20
You called it. Hissyspit May 2014 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author JackRiddler May 2014 #21
I'd guess Pakistan or Russia... EX500rider May 2014 #22

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
1. ...they're all nuts.
Wed May 21, 2014, 01:45 AM
May 2014

At one point I may have thought that they were doing something for a greater good but...now it's about ego, fame, headlines and some other twisted/weirdo shit.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
4. Judge Someone Else
Wed May 21, 2014, 02:39 AM
May 2014

Get over it. They aren't robots. Your description sound more like the people who post here that aren't infuriated with NSA/DEA.

Response to Cha (Reply #14)

Tarheel_Dem

(31,234 posts)
9. Sibel Edmonds: "Checkbook Journalism & Leaking to the Highest Bidders"
Wed May 21, 2014, 04:16 PM
May 2014
That’s right. A whistleblower breaks the law to obtain 50,000 documents, he flees the country to escape prosecution and jail time, he hands over these 50,000 pages to a handful of individuals in return for their promise to present these documents to the public, six months pass, and the public gets 1% of these documents. But please, wait. This is not all. Far more interesting and troubling things happen meanwhile.

The main wanna-be reporter begins his relentless pursuit of high dollars in return for … for what? In return for exclusive interviews where he would discuss some of this material. In return for a very lucrative book deal where he would expose a few extra pages of these 50,000-page documents. In return for a partnership with and extremely high salary from a Mega Corporation (think 1%) where he would … hmmmm, well, it is not very clear: maybe in return for sitting on and never releasing some of these documents, or, releasing a few select pages?

That’s right. The culprit is able to use his role in the whistleblower case, and his de facto ownership of the whistleblower’s 50,000-page evidence, to gain huge sums of money, fame, a mega corporate position, book and movie deals … yet, making sure that the public would never see more than a few percent of the incriminating evidence.

Of course, secondhand checkbook profiteers tend to be very savvy, able to blow smoke, muddy water, and obscure their real deeds and true personhoods. This particular one is famous for spending years as an ambulance-chasing style attorney, where all he had to do was to write dozens of pages to make cases that were never cases, or make real cases appear as if they never were.


See more at: http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2013/12/08/checkbook-journalism-leaking-to-the-highest-bidders/#sthash.esuPxh6S.dpuf

You're spot on Soap. Even Anonymous was discussing showing up at GG's events to protest his greed. This has never been about the public good for these guys.

Cha

(297,304 posts)
13. ICYMI..
Wed May 21, 2014, 06:20 PM
May 2014

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Tarheel_Dem

(31,234 posts)
15. Which is why real "whistleblowers" are pissed. We're repeatedly told to take GG out of the equation.
Wed May 21, 2014, 06:24 PM
May 2014

How the hell do you do that, when this asshole stands to make gazillions of dollars off of someone else's loss of freedom? Sadly, that pic speaks volumes.

Cha

(297,304 posts)
16. Whistleblowers should be pissed.. snowden isn't one of them.. Now his agent has to deal
Wed May 21, 2014, 06:33 PM
May 2014

with another self-righteous asshole..

Julian Assange Is Angry At Glenn Greenwald And He’s Not Going To Take It Anymore

http://www.buzzfeed.com/miriamberger/julian-assange-is-angry-at-glenn-greenwald-and-hes-not-going

Watch out.. War of the LEAKERS!

Tarheel_Dem

(31,234 posts)
18. Like I said, this ought to be good. I've even wondered if it was Anonymous who attacked ebay?
Wed May 21, 2014, 06:46 PM
May 2014

They, supposedly, were talking about protesting GG's affiliation with Pierre Omidyar, a true One Percenter. They, allegedly, are pissed that GG is only back in the country to sign mega$$$bucks movie & book deals. I can see where this is going, and GG, for the first time may be in WAY over his head. The backlash cometh!

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
6. From the start this story has been nothing but a game for those two
Wed May 21, 2014, 10:38 AM
May 2014

Nothing but a dog-and-pony show...

24601

(3,962 posts)
10. No charges against Assange right now. I'd anticipate that changing to reckless endangerment for
Wed May 21, 2014, 05:05 PM
May 2014

releasing info he acknowledges is dangerous and premeditated murder if it results in death.

24601

(3,962 posts)
17. When he does it after first admitting it will put people in danger, absolutely yes. Look at this
Wed May 21, 2014, 06:44 PM
May 2014

way, someone has information essential to safeguard the safety of the President. He publishes it knowing that
terrorists can use it to assassinate the President, and they do. Any doubt he is directly responsible for the murder? No doubt in my mind he has been directly culpable. Another example, the information released is how to build a bomb and plan a bomb that kills 50 people. How is that not accessory to 1st degree murder. Or consider that the information released identifies an individual who worked undercover in a terrorist cell, which then murders him and his family in retaliation.

in any of those circumstances, He is clearly enabling a murder, or murders, when he knew it was the likely consequence.

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