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alp227

(32,034 posts)
Wed May 21, 2014, 04:02 PM May 2014

Nearly half of unemployed not looking for work, poll finds

Source: LA Times

Some 47% of unemployed Americans say they’ve given up on looking for work, according to a poll commissioned by staffing firm Express Employment Professionals.

More than half say looking for work has been more difficult than expected; only 2 in 10 currently receive unemployment benefits.

Among the rest, nearly a third aren’t eligible and 30% never applied, according to the data, which was collected by Harris Poll from April 9 to 21 from among 1,500 unemployed adults.

The jobless rate nationwide dropped to 6.3% last month -- the lowest level since 2008 -- as the nation added 288,000 jobs, according to the government.

Read more: http://www.latimes.com/business/money/la-fi-unemployment-poll-20140520-story.html

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Nearly half of unemployed not looking for work, poll finds (Original Post) alp227 May 2014 OP
One of the long term unemployed was arrested for threatening Boehner over this. onehandle May 2014 #1
they need to be shamed and threatened over and over by more and more randys1 May 2014 #26
We need to bring back the Civilian Conservation Corps ck4829 May 2014 #2
Been saying that for years Prophet 451 May 2014 #17
Yes. JDPriestly May 2014 #23
Instead we get more privatization of government work and less privacy from our government. nt adirondacker May 2014 #30
Dad was in that and my school were built by the WPA. Obama tried something like this immediately on freshwest May 2014 #36
Why not simply increase federal funding for infrastructure work? hack89 May 2014 #44
What a waste! yallerdawg May 2014 #3
What I would like to see is a breakdown according to age. There is age discrimination out there lostincalifornia May 2014 #4
Yep d_r May 2014 #7
Exactly thecrow May 2014 #21
Same here... freebrew May 2014 #40
And that age is creeping down. X_Digger May 2014 #41
Bingo. geardaddy May 2014 #15
Thinning out the boomer generation saves taxes for the rich. nt adirondacker May 2014 #31
I have no doubt about it davidpdx May 2014 #37
I've been out of work for 3.5 years. stopbush May 2014 #5
Same here. GoCubsGo May 2014 #10
Out of work going on 2 years. tofuandbeer May 2014 #12
56 and coming up on 2 years. ColesCountyDem May 2014 #14
Who knew the HR people are all looking for people who are under-qualified? stopbush May 2014 #28
They're all worried customerserviceguy May 2014 #35
Provided that we don't all starve or become homeless, in the mean time.... ColesCountyDem May 2014 #39
But they've been worried about that for at least 6 years and it hasn't happened. stopbush May 2014 #46
Like the sign said customerserviceguy May 2014 #49
Logic would make you think so. ColesCountyDem May 2014 #38
Hubby is in the same boat. FloriTexan May 2014 #16
So, now what are these people supposed to do? Helen Borg May 2014 #6
Yes, more "Die quickly." GoCubsGo May 2014 #11
And the government cooks the unemployment figure by not counting them. PSPS May 2014 #8
Shadowstats? What is that and who makes that up as an unofficial something? Fred Sanders May 2014 #20
Technically they are unemployed as long as they have attempted to look for work in the past year. DCBob May 2014 #22
pretty arrogant point of view... freebrew May 2014 #42
pretty obnoxious and clueless comment. DCBob May 2014 #45
"Obnoxious and clueless" does not describe the post you are replying to Art_from_Ark May 2014 #48
Two different statements... freebrew May 2014 #50
Cut the Crap™. MannyGoldstein May 2014 #9
i really like this new meme, and plan to embrace it fully.. frylock May 2014 #13
So, all boats will rise, right?!! Helen Borg May 2014 #19
The Right would claim ALL of them are guilty of FRAUD and need to be jailed. Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #18
My husband barely looks anymore gwheezie May 2014 #24
I'm confused HomerRamone May 2014 #25
"Jobless" benefits yallerdawg May 2014 #27
How do you live when you just quit looking for work? I am retired and don't have doc03 May 2014 #29
Why do you think it would be that easy for someone of retirement age HomerRamone May 2014 #32
We have a high unemployment rate here too. The steel mills closed, doc03 May 2014 #34
If my husband didn't have a wife with a job gwheezie May 2014 #47
Try it and seee - let us know. 840high May 2014 #33
No special skills? And you can get a job? freebrew May 2014 #43

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
1. One of the long term unemployed was arrested for threatening Boehner over this.
Wed May 21, 2014, 04:14 PM
May 2014

A long hot summer will result in more problems for the obstructionist, worker-hating GOP.

ck4829

(35,077 posts)
2. We need to bring back the Civilian Conservation Corps
Wed May 21, 2014, 04:16 PM
May 2014

We have an infrastructure in dire need of repair and guaranteed employment would definitely lighten the applicant-to-job opening ratio. What will it take to make those in power see that our country desperately needs this?

Prophet 451

(9,796 posts)
17. Been saying that for years
Wed May 21, 2014, 05:51 PM
May 2014

You have a crumbling infrastructure and you have a load of people who need jobs. The state should hire the one to fix the other.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
36. Dad was in that and my school were built by the WPA. Obama tried something like this immediately on
Thu May 22, 2014, 02:02 AM
May 2014

getting in office, and it was to be paid by the Bush tax cut sunsetting in 12-31-10 but the Teas got in office to stop that.

He's been promoting his infrastructure projects every year. We have to get momentum in Congress by voting out the people who want the nation on its knees to the Koch brothers.

Although as far as helping the unemployment rate, I don't know what age the bulk of unemployed are. Some of our DUers are saying that their age is a factor getting jobs, and they are UE.

I personally know a dozen people IRL who were approaching retirement and simply went on to draw their Social Security. They are greatly relived, able to take better care of themselves, less expenses and have health care.

I know about an equal amount who were suffering with pain and medical conditions in their fifties who took disability, that is, when on Social Security earlier than the normal retirement age. The GOP flipped out when Obama loosened some of the rules on that, saying it would bankrupt the country.

Pot. Meet Kettle. They're trying to destroy this nation and push us to bankruptcy when none of this grief is necessary.

Bow the GOP is holding hostage the building funds to try to axe other social net programs. The money is there, they won't allow the vote in the House. It's for bridges, roads, rail and transportation projects that states are now having to cancel their plans to build since they doubt the money is going to arrive.

The GOP won't be satisfied until this nation is broken so they can sell it off to their cronies. They're doing a fire sale for the Kochs.




hack89

(39,171 posts)
44. Why not simply increase federal funding for infrastructure work?
Thu May 22, 2014, 11:24 AM
May 2014

why create a new organization?

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
3. What a waste!
Wed May 21, 2014, 04:19 PM
May 2014

We have all these people who would work and the Republicans refuse to pass job programs at any level of government.

Why would someone who has already worked 35 or 40 years of their life want to start over in a menial labor position, and earn slave wages?

For "the dignity of work?"

If full employment was the priority of our government, we wouldn't have enough people to do the work!

d_r

(6,907 posts)
7. Yep
Wed May 21, 2014, 04:33 PM
May 2014

that "economic crisis" a few yeas ago was all about firing older people that made higher wages and replacing them with fewer younger people that make less. Many of those older workers could not find anything.

thecrow

(5,519 posts)
21. Exactly
Wed May 21, 2014, 06:07 PM
May 2014

Now I have all this experience and nobody wants to hire me for $10 an hour because they think I'll run away when I find a better job. HAHAHAHA As if there are better jobs out there.
I don't think I will ever work again. Not in my field of expertise, not at my age (60s) and not at my former salary. The company I worked for has a skeleton crew holding the fort getting paid to cruise facebook and ebay all day, and selling the designs I used to make. Must be nice.

freebrew

(1,917 posts)
40. Same here...
Thu May 22, 2014, 09:44 AM
May 2014

fired at 57 for being older. They kept the older managers, fired over 50 people over 50. Weird, eh?

Had a minimum wage job for a while, the owner was a complete ass. I mean, you have NO idea.

So, went on SS at 62. No jobs here for 'seasoned' workers. It's a republican dream here and the citizens eat it up.

Stupid fuckers.

X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
41. And that age is creeping down.
Thu May 22, 2014, 09:52 AM
May 2014

I've got friends in their late 40's that are facing the same thing.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
37. I have no doubt about it
Thu May 22, 2014, 02:11 AM
May 2014

Those that lost their job during the great recession who were older really got screwed.

My mom was worried about her job there for awhile as her employer was having financial problems and they were looking at outsourcing. She turning 66 next month. Thankfully it won't be happening for awhile, she's just trying to hold out on retiring as long as she can. Maybe another two years.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
5. I've been out of work for 3.5 years.
Wed May 21, 2014, 04:27 PM
May 2014

I still look for jobs every day. Still send out resumes. Dropped off an application today at a local place.

But it's a sick joke at this point.

Even when I get an interview, the ageism kicks in (I'm 59) and from there, it's fugehaboudit.

I have no expectation of ever getting another job. All I have is 3.5 years of dead ends and non-starters. i may as well have been marooned on a desert island.

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
10. Same here.
Wed May 21, 2014, 04:43 PM
May 2014

I'm 53. I haven't stopped looking completely, because I really don't have a choice. But, I don't look every day any more. Besides being a waste of time, it's damn depressing.

tofuandbeer

(1,314 posts)
12. Out of work going on 2 years.
Wed May 21, 2014, 05:02 PM
May 2014

I too have lost faith in applying for jobs, though I still do. It's very depressing having a career then nothing.
I find freelance work here and there, but while freelancing (in my line of work) I have to compete with overseas folks or young students who charge very little. The best work I find is word of mouth (ex-employees, etc), and that is not often enough for part time work.

Good luck everyone!

ColesCountyDem

(6,943 posts)
14. 56 and coming up on 2 years.
Wed May 21, 2014, 05:09 PM
May 2014

I'm at the point of pimp-slapping the next HR person who uses the term 'overqualified'!

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
28. Who knew the HR people are all looking for people who are under-qualified?
Wed May 21, 2014, 08:05 PM
May 2014

You'd think they'd be thrilled to hire an over-qualified person.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
35. They're all worried
Wed May 21, 2014, 10:49 PM
May 2014

that if there ever is a decent recovery (instead of the fake one we've been told has been happening) that the over-qualified person will take off like a shot.

ColesCountyDem

(6,943 posts)
39. Provided that we don't all starve or become homeless, in the mean time....
Thu May 22, 2014, 05:45 AM
May 2014

If they would hire us 'over 50 and over-qualified' folks, it would provide those HR folks with job security: when we eventually left, they'd be needed to interview the 'merely qualified'.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
46. But they've been worried about that for at least 6 years and it hasn't happened.
Thu May 22, 2014, 01:56 PM
May 2014

Thousands of people have "taken off like a shot" due to normal attrition over that period, while over-qualified people sit on the sidelines, unemployed and wondering how they're going to pay the bills.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
49. Like the sign said
Fri May 23, 2014, 07:15 AM
May 2014

at a firm that I worked in back in 1977, "There's no reason for it, it's just company policy".

FloriTexan

(838 posts)
16. Hubby is in the same boat.
Wed May 21, 2014, 05:46 PM
May 2014

I feel your pain. It is a sick joke. It is also humiliating to deal with this day in and day out. Nothing like complete rejection to sink one into depression. I have told him to quit looking so I can quit bugging him everyday too. We're just going to tweek our budget and lifestyle so we can just be happy again.

There really is no point into looking within his training/career anymore. The jobs that are out there are purely economic slavery. Its just not worth it anymore.

Helen Borg

(3,963 posts)
6. So, now what are these people supposed to do?
Wed May 21, 2014, 04:27 PM
May 2014

Just wait quietly to die or kill themselves? True, if they have enough money then they have more time to do things such as volunteering in the community and whatnot. But I suspect many of these people are not swimming in money.

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
11. Yes, more "Die quickly."
Wed May 21, 2014, 04:46 PM
May 2014

And, since a lot of us can't get Medicaid, and we can't afford health insurance, odds are that a lot of us will drop dead from some stress-related illness. I know the stress has already taken at least ten year off of my life.

PSPS

(13,603 posts)
8. And the government cooks the unemployment figure by not counting them.
Wed May 21, 2014, 04:40 PM
May 2014

These are officially described as "discouraged workers" and were defined out of existence. The U-3 "headline" unemployment rate is what the government advertises. The real unemployment rate is far higher, approaching 25%.

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DCBob

(24,689 posts)
22. Technically they are unemployed as long as they have attempted to look for work in the past year.
Wed May 21, 2014, 06:21 PM
May 2014

If someone hasn't even tried to look for work in over a year then it's obvious they aren't interested in working... imho.

freebrew

(1,917 posts)
42. pretty arrogant point of view...
Thu May 22, 2014, 09:53 AM
May 2014

when one has been looking for work for years, every rejection being justified as 'overqualified' or 'we don't want someone that's going to retire soon'. I got tired of the lies.

And here, looking for work means showing up at the career center every 4 weeks.

I would be very interested in working, just tired of being put down by morons in HR that are 'just doing their job'.

So screw off with the repub talking points.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
45. pretty obnoxious and clueless comment.
Thu May 22, 2014, 12:16 PM
May 2014

I totally understand the frustrations of looking for work.. we have all been there.. but anyone who hasnt even tried looking for work in over a year has simply given up. Nothing to do with politics.. so f'koff your "screw off" comment.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
48. "Obnoxious and clueless" does not describe the post you are replying to
Thu May 22, 2014, 11:00 PM
May 2014

That post is actually quite on the mark. If you want an example of "obnoxious and clueless", read what you yourself have written.

freebrew

(1,917 posts)
50. Two different statements...
Fri May 23, 2014, 12:11 PM
May 2014

First, you say these people aren't interested in working, then you say they've given up.

Different apples.

As for the stats, after the unemployment compensation runs out, there's no need to go to the career center.
Going there is only necessary to renew the UI claim every month. Since there aren't jobs, what's the point of going? These aren't counted in the stats because they're out of benefits and don't go back to the center.

So, unless you've been unemployed for 5+ years, are out of benefits and over 55, you've no clue.

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
24. My husband barely looks anymore
Wed May 21, 2014, 07:33 PM
May 2014

He hasn't worked in 4 years, he always worked, since age 12 he worked. He now calls himself retired, he'll be 65 in Oct. He applies for a job about once a month, we decided since we live out in the middle of nowhere, unless the job is local, it takes too much gas to drive an hour for a $10 buck an hour part time job. We could use the money from another income but thankfully we had downsized years ago and can make it on my salary.

HomerRamone

(1,112 posts)
25. I'm confused
Wed May 21, 2014, 07:41 PM
May 2014

"only 2 in 10 currently receive unemployment benefits. Among the rest, nearly a third aren’t eligible and 30% never applied"

but

"Jobless benefits may be tamping down any sense of urgency. Nearly three-quarters of respondents said they consider unemployment compensation to be a cushion; nearly half said they didn’t search as hard as they could have for openings because of the funds."

??

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
27. "Jobless" benefits
Wed May 21, 2014, 07:50 PM
May 2014

I think this is referencing the other safety net programs we become eligible for when we have NO INCOME.

Section 8 Housing, SNAP, Medicaid -- give all that up for $8 an hour at a part-time job, asking "Do you want ketchup with that?"

doc03

(35,348 posts)
29. How do you live when you just quit looking for work? I am retired and don't have
Wed May 21, 2014, 08:32 PM
May 2014

any special skills but if I wanted to work I am positive I could have a job next week, not a high paying job but a job.

HomerRamone

(1,112 posts)
32. Why do you think it would be that easy for someone of retirement age
Wed May 21, 2014, 09:50 PM
May 2014

to get even a minimum wage job? Have you read any of the many testimonials about this issue?

doc03

(35,348 posts)
34. We have a high unemployment rate here too. The steel mills closed,
Wed May 21, 2014, 10:37 PM
May 2014

the aluminum plant closed, coal mines and several power plants have closed. I don't want work but I know I could get a
job if I wanted one. I am not saying a great job, when it comes to one that pays a good income now that is a different story. I know several people that retired when I did that work security jobs, transfer cars for dealers, mow grass, work kiosk jobs at the mall. I have a friend in his seventies that works about 30 hours a week for $10 an hour cutting a rich guy's lawn. What my question is if you are out of work and have no unemployment how can you just quit looking. How do they live on zero income?

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
47. If my husband didn't have a wife with a job
Thu May 22, 2014, 03:41 PM
May 2014

he would take any job at $10/hr. But he would have lost this farm, he would have to rent a room from someone or live in a shelter, he would have no insurance since we live in a state that refused the expansion.

freebrew

(1,917 posts)
43. No special skills? And you can get a job?
Thu May 22, 2014, 09:57 AM
May 2014

Doubtful, unless it's minimum wage at a midnight gas station.

I'm retired, I have LOTS of skills, welding, mechanics, programming, engineering, LOTS.

I'm overqualified for EVERYTHING. Go figure.

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