MH17 Coverage From Russia Today Forces Correspondent Sara Firth To Quit
Source: huffingtonpost.co.uk
A high-profile Russia Today reporter has resigned her post at the Putin-friendly channel, slamming its response to the crash of the Malaysian Airline MH17.
Sara Firth, a foreign correspondent and multimedia reporter at the Kremlin-backed channel, did not voice her anger on air like Abby Martin did over the annexation of Crimea earlier this year. Instead, she took to Twitter, even directing her anger at her own colleagues.
Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/07/18/russia-today-sara-firth_n_5598718.html
RT=FOX
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)William769
(55,147 posts)Trajan
(19,089 posts)Extends even to DU ...
I will celebrate the day that the RT apologists get their due here ... shameful!
7962
(11,841 posts)Cha
(297,606 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)Cha
(297,606 posts)conservaphobe
(1,284 posts)AngryOldDem
(14,061 posts)How anyone takes it seriously is beyond me.
2banon
(7,321 posts)Adrahil
(13,340 posts)conservaphobe
(1,284 posts)7962
(11,841 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)They are often flawed and foolish, but they are not pure propaganda organs controlled by a government.
Rt.com is less credible and anyone citing it for the Ukraine conflict is a Putin-humping horse's ass.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,239 posts)Cha
(297,606 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)The problem is that the "journalists" know how to write, but they don't know history or politics. That's probably because they were raised hearing the news of the journalists who preceded them, and that news was also full of propaganda.
There is in the US also a troubling kink in the system: the news has to be sponsored. The sponsors are big corporations and in the case of NPR foundations that support the big corporations. It's sad, but the very fact that some of our biggest corporations want news that is in sync with their interests rather than with the truth causes problems.
RT is sponsored by the Russian government. That is its conflict of interest. If you watch with full knowledge and awareness that it is in sync not with the truth necessarily but with the interests of its sponsor, the Russian government, then you can watch, wary of its slant.
It's only the very naive who take any news source as the God's truth.
If GE is sponsoring a program or owns a news media outlet, GE is going to decide what will be broadcast. Watcher, listener, reader beware.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Ryano42
(1,577 posts)I know RT gives you a lot of reach, but it's time to step away...
freshwest
(53,661 posts)He's never done stories on Russia, etc. But most liberal talking shows have been taken off the air in the USA, both on television, radio and streaming video. He was on good venues but they are hard to get now:
Hartmann's 2002 article, "Talking Back To Talk Radio",[3] became part of the original business plan of Air America Radio, and he started his radio program out of his home in Vermont in March 2003. He moved to the Air America network in 2007 and then to the Jones Radio Network (later Dial Global) in 2009. The radio show is also broadcast on community/non-profit stations via Pacifica Radio and Free Speech TV. The Thom Hartmann Program has 2.75 million listeners a week and is one of the top progressive talk radio programs.[4] In 2008 Hartmann started a daily TV show, The Big Picture. The RT network began carrying the show in 2010...
Having worked as a DJ and news director at Lansing radio stations from 1968 to 1978,[5] Hartmann started a radio show in February 2003 on a local station in Vermont; a month later[citation needed] it was picked up on the i.e. America Radio Network and on Sirius Satellite Radio. In 2005, he moved from Vermont to Oregon and, in addition to continuing his national show, also co-hosted a local talk show in Portland, Oregon (with Carl Wolfson, the late Heidi Tauber, and later Christine Alexander), from 2005 until early 2007 on KPOJ, initially an affiliate of Air America Radio owned by Clear Channel Communications. But KPOJ now (March 2013) airs a sports talk format, and is affiliated with Fox Sports Radio.
Hartmann's national program, on the air since 2003 and now in the 3PM to 6PM ET daypart, was chosen by Air America to replace Al Franken on most Air America affiliates in 2007.[24] From 2008 to 2011, Talkers Magazine rated Hartmann the most popular liberal talk show host in America, rising from number 10 among all talk show hosts in 2008 to number 8 in 2011.[25] According to his syndicator Dial Global, more people listen to Hartmann's show on more stations than any other progressive talk show in America. The Thom Hartmann Program is estimated by industry magazine Talkers to have 2.75 million unique listers per week.
As of March 2012, the show was carried on 81 terrestrial radio stations in 34 states as well as on Sirius and XM satellite radio. A community radio station in Africa, Radio Builsa in Ghana, also broadcasts the show. Various local cable TV networks simulcast the program. In addition to Dial Global, a subsidiary of Triton Media Group, the show is now also offered via Pacifica Audioport to non-profit stations in a non-profit compliant format and is simulcast on Dish Network Channel 9415 via Free Speech TV Network.
Many guests appear on the show purporting points of view on diverse social and political topics. Some guests proffer progressive views similar to Hartmann's, but more than half are conservatives, libertarians, or Ayn Rand Institute members[26] who espouse opposing views. A vigorous debate with the host usually ensues. There are four regular guests on the program, and they are sympathetic to Hartmann's political views. Sen. Bernie Sanders (Ind.-VT) appears every Friday during the first hour of the show titled "Brunch with Bernie". Ellen Ratner of the Talk Radio News Service provides Washington commentary daily. Victoria Jones who is the White House correspondent for Talk Radio News Service appears occasionally as does Dr. Ravi Batra an economics professor at SMU.
Like all talk radio shows, The Thom Hartmann Program takes calls from listeners. When callers asked Thom how he was, he used to reply, "I'm great, but I'll get better." But after a time callers would regularly try to elicit this response so he's stopped replying this way routinely. Hartmann ends each show with the phrase, "Activism begins with you, democracy begins with you. Get out there, get active! Tag, you're it!"
Michael Harrison, publisher of radio industry trade magazine Talkers, offered this appraisal of Hartmann:
Hes entertaining, hes informative, hes an original thinker, hes an author, hes an original source. In other words, hes not a B-level talking points host that so many on both the left and the right are...Hes the kind of a host that other people can get their talking points from...[27]
Hartmann produces and stars in a one hour daily TV show, The Big Picture with Thom Hartmann, which his production company records at the studios of and licenses to the RT news network. It is also shown on Free Speech TV, Dish Network, DirecTV, and on selected local-origination and Public-access television cable TV channels...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thom_Hartmann
He is the only thing on RT that I will watch, so I don't want it banned here at RT.
But when I scour youtube to see more shows on RT from links at DU, I often find the most disgusting psychological manipulation that would work perfectly for Fox News productions. A lot of flash, sensation, music, bobble headed reporters and not a small bit of hate and disinfo.
If Rupert Murdoch doesn't own an interest in RT, he would still approve the style used it. RT may be Russia's Fox News, and they supported Putin over Obama during the Crimea and Syrian situations. It makes me wonder...
Tarheel_Dem
(31,239 posts)stand by his principles, whatever the hell they are.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)It reflects badly on American radio media management that Hartmann is on RT, not on Thom Hartmann.
Id rather be sued than be associated with any media that transmits Rush Limbaugh. Rush is the depths of ignorance and hate. Thom Hartmann is the height of understanding and compassion.
That Thom Hartmann is on RT is a reflection of the sorry state of American media.
American media could not even deal with Phil Donahue. That says it all.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,239 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)I am not making the case he is afraid of them but that he's using them, their studios, to produce his youtube videos that get posted here and elsewhere, to get his message out. He has a blog, is on smaller venues, but nowhere near the kind of coverage that MSM gives people to offer their opposition to the GOP and conservatives.
They really have us in a bind due to their buying all kinds of communications, newspapers, magazines, book publishers, television, cable, entertainment and radio. We lost our liberal voices out here in all those venues and now it's almost nonstop conservative and libertarian views, they've even put tags on their stuff to span internet search results.
They clearly are winning in that way of getting their voters riled up and voting; we can't get ours to go and vote, or so we're told. Our vote would undo all of this.
Thanks for the reply and hope you're doing well today, Tarheel.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,239 posts)So I'm not surprised that we don't do as well in ratings as the networks who cater to the older, whiter, stationary male audience. We're living our lives, and catching news on the fly. Sad, but true.
However, I don't think an alledgedly principled man, like Hartmann can be of any real consequence as long as he's associated, IN ANY WAY, with the Kremlin's most prominent US propaganda outlet. It's just not possible. Ever hear of suffering for your art? A complete & public separation might make him suffer in the short term, but he'll land on his feet in another venue, eventually.
Hope you're doing okay as well.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)to pass off RT coverage of the Ukraine conflict as credible
All Putin-humpers make me queasy, but the ones who try to pass themselves off as progressives, well makes me want to on their shoes
Ghost Dog
(16,881 posts)this kind of observation and analysis?:
... As the Western powers' anti-Russian sanctions are failing to bite and the Kiev government they back is losing on the ground, this may indicate a NATO motive for the attack. If so this sort of audacious act may also be an early test of loyalties by the West's power elite of Britains new Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond and Defense Secretary Michael Fallon. The message being, Watch that you don't get any troublesome ideas of making your own minds up on the matter.
The timing of the attack is intriguing too, being the day after a historic agreement Putin signed, along with Chinese president Xi Jinping, in the Brazilian city of Fortaleza to create a BRICS World Development Bank. Quite possibly the greatest challenge since Bretton Woods in 1944, to the dubious monopoly of the World Bank, was indeed signed on Wednesday by Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa.
For those that muse on the obsessive nature of those that spend their lives pursuing ever more money until the day they die, there is a shocking recent history of nations and their leaders coming to a sticky end that dare to oppose the global monopoly of the petrodollar, and that of the enforcers at the World Bank and IMF...
... Its comforting to repeat that nobody wants an economic collapse and nobody wants a world war, but it wouldn't be the first time that ruling elites have deployed these two chestnuts as a 'double whammy'. Making a fortune out of a crash is easy when you can see it coming and, as well as being an archaic 'human sacrifice' to the old gods, war is the best way to distract everybody who might be thinking of locking you up...
/... http://rt.com/op-edge/173788-malaysian-plane-crash-ukraine/
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)it is not observation and analysis, but rather cynically dishonest crazy talk/.
it got hidden yesterday, justifiably so, for being pro-dictatorship crazy talk and propaganda, and as an insult to the victims
anyone promoting it is either a deranged loon, or a blatantly dishonest shill for Putin.
So, no, to answer your question, I would not promote it here as something worth considering
Note that I am not accusing you of promoting it. Just answering your question
Ghost Dog
(16,881 posts)Tarheel_Dem
(31,239 posts)heaven05
(18,124 posts)too bad she might be marginalized now. But tip of the hat to her. Now, if we can get the hacks at faux news to resign in shame, that would be good.
Bad Thoughts
(2,531 posts)That should be the headline. (Sarcasm off. )
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)They're quite the busy little group of drones
stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)PeoViejo
(2,178 posts)Seems pretty mercenary to even consider the job.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Thom Hartmann works there for the reasons explained above: there is no liberal media to speak of in the US that will hire someone with an approach that is open to ideas of all kinds and that has a liberal spiritual base. That means that Hartmann is pretty much banned by the US media except for short appearances on rare occasions.
Our media is owned by the right wing of the country. That goes for every network, etc. except Pacifica. At least that is my impression.
And they want to do away with net neutrality so that here in the US they can control ALL communication the same way they do under dictatorships.
I watch RT with great skepticism, but I watch American media the same way. The Russian propaganda is easier for me to spot because it is so obvious. The American propaganda sometimes fools me.
2banon
(7,321 posts)My point is that it's all the same.. RT is a state sponsored media, quite obviously the Russian Version of CNN, or if you'd prefer the Russian version of FOX. Understand though, that FOX is the same as CNN et al, just more blatant with the agenda.
Cha
(297,606 posts)we know they'll all bullshit. RT is putin controlled. cnn is tea party central.. against the current government of the US.
Bad Thoughts
(2,531 posts)RT style guide Rule 1: It is ALWAYS *Ukraine's fault (*add name as applicable)
Eek!
samsingh
(17,601 posts)these reporters are risking their careers if not lives to speak the truth. the imbeciles at fox are bought by money to spread lies it seems.
tavernier
(12,399 posts)Renew Deal
(81,871 posts)RT is the propaganda wing of the Russian government.
Fox is the misinformation wing of the republican party.
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)Extremely savvy ... she will now get higher paying job offers from the UK and US ...
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)we'll miss you when you're gone
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)If this was based entirely on principles and integrity, she wouldn't have taken the job in the first place OR left a long time ago. Correct?
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)need to find a new field in which to work
good for her for finally realizing what a sham operation Rt is and how dishonest both it and those who promote it are, but I certainly would never hire anyone who worked for rt
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)Like many, I think she was probably hoping that Russia was entering a new phase of it's history, away from authoritarian dominance of the media. She was wrong, and has the integrity to recognize it.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,239 posts)disassociate themselves. I mean, since they're such high principled individuals and all. When you become what you claim to despise, it's time for some deep introspection, and it sounds like this young lady did that.
IronGate
(2,186 posts)She was thinking of a better paying job when she made the decision to quit RT.
Of course it wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that RT was outright lying about the shoot down, would it?
Skittles
(153,185 posts)IronGate
(2,186 posts)but it seems this was the last straw.
Skittles
(153,185 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)I imagine it's much more convenient to our own biases to prophetically assign motives to those of who's motives we know nothing other than what they tell us...
Savvy, indeed.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,239 posts)exposure on any other "US" news network, not even Fox.
saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)On balance, it must be said that RT is modeled on US government media manipulation (a kind word). It saddens me that our US media, under NSA surveillance, fears retribution should they uncover, or report, any facts that lack prior government approval.
BeyondGeography
(39,379 posts)to take the heat off. Being part of the resulting charade at RT is incentive enough for anyone with personal pride to at least consider leaving. I bet Ms. Firth is only the first of many to look elsewhere for employment.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,239 posts)PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)I'm sure Fox is much worse.
dreamnightwind
(4,775 posts)I have seen many excellent news reports and discussions on RT. I've always known who funded it, and don't trust it on matters that Russia has a direct interest in (the Syrian uprising, this plane shoot-down, U.S. debt and economic status, etc.) Pretty similar to how I don't trust our own media on matters the U.S. has a direct interest in (which seems to be just about everything since we're running an empire for corporate benefit).
Some differences are that our own propaganda networks are much more subtle, which means the propaganda is less blatant but also means that it's easier to be fooled into thinking you're watching "the news" rather than being presented with the viewpoint of corporations such as AOL/Time Warner, Fox, Disney, Comcast, etc. You're not. RT's bias is clumsy and easier to smell, they just aren't as good at it.
Another major, and for me, important difference, is that RT gives a platform for the American left. Try finding that on any of our corporate networks, go ahead, you won't find it, at all. Why is that? Oh yeah, the money behind our networks won't allow it. Simple as that.
YMMV, and obviously it does, just wanted to put out how it looks from my viewpoint. Reasonable and discerning people can, and do, watch RT and get good info from it. It's a universal law of information: raw data divided by the viewpoint of the data presenter = information. Practice it with everything you hear and read, otherwise you're just getting programmed to think what someone else wants you to think.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)RT had more courage and independence than all the U.S. media combined? lolz
Cha
(297,606 posts)putin/RT has it going on.
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)EX500rider
(10,855 posts)DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)''Freedom of the press is guaranteed only to those who own one.'' ~A. J. Liebling