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Roy Serohz

(236 posts)
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 10:34 AM Jul 2014

MH17 Coverage From Russia Today Forces Correspondent Sara Firth To Quit

Source: huffingtonpost.co.uk

A high-profile Russia Today reporter has resigned her post at the Putin-friendly channel, slamming its response to the crash of the Malaysian Airline MH17.

Sara Firth, a foreign correspondent and multimedia reporter at the Kremlin-backed channel, did not voice her anger on air like Abby Martin did over the annexation of Crimea earlier this year. Instead, she took to Twitter, even directing her anger at her own colleagues.

I resigned from RT today. I have huge respect for many in the team, but I'm for the truth.




Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/07/18/russia-today-sara-firth_n_5598718.html



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MH17 Coverage From Russia Today Forces Correspondent Sara Firth To Quit (Original Post) Roy Serohz Jul 2014 OP
Good for her. RT's coverage yesterday was pure propaganda. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #1
Kick & recommended. William769 Jul 2014 #2
The propaganda arm of RT ... Trajan Jul 2014 #3
Sadly it will probably never happen. Too many of 'em 7962 Jul 2014 #33
There's this today.. which surprised me.. Cha Jul 2014 #55
Most illogical thread ever with the ignorance doubled down on to make DU look dumb. freshwest Jul 2014 #59
Leave RT Alone!11! lol Cha Jul 2014 #60
Every political and news website should BAN RT as a valid source. nt conservaphobe Jul 2014 #4
+1 AngryOldDem Jul 2014 #12
You think American Media is any better? Seriously? CNN, FOX, MSNBC? ABC? NBC? CBS? 2banon Jul 2014 #24
Better than RT? Yes. Yes, I do. But that is a VERY low bar, and so nothing to brag about. NT Adrahil Jul 2014 #25
It's one step above Infowars. That's about it. nt conservaphobe Jul 2014 #27
Pretty good way to put it. nt 7962 Jul 2014 #34
Undoubtedly yes they are, with maybe the exception of Fox. geek tragedy Jul 2014 #29
All those are allowed in LBN. Guess which "news outlet" is banned? Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #36
Except RT is FOR the Government of Russia and those USmedia outlets are Against the current Gov. Cha Jul 2014 #56
The state of journalism today is really sad. JDPriestly Jul 2014 #42
Including this one. KamaAina Jul 2014 #50
Thom Hartmann... Ryano42 Jul 2014 #5
Bet he wishes he could. His contract described online is that his content is under his own control. freshwest Jul 2014 #19
Honestly, I think I'd rather be sued than be associated with these assholes. But Hartmann has to... Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #38
No. Hartmann is a sane voice in the madhouse of American talk radio. JDPriestly Jul 2014 #43
Like I said, he should follow his "principles". Whatever the hell they are. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #45
He probably will. He usually does. JDPriestly Jul 2014 #47
Oh, I don't mean he'd be sued for leaving them. I think he feels he has total control over his show, freshwest Jul 2014 #48
Unfortunately, demographics don't favor progressive media. We're younger, more active, more diverse. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #49
only dishonest, morally bankrupt shills for the Kremlin try geek tragedy Jul 2014 #6
Is it out of place, then, at DU to report Ghost Dog Jul 2014 #23
Yeah... Putin's jet never flew over Ukrainian airspace. Unbelievable.... NT Adrahil Jul 2014 #26
It's appropriate for infowars and rense not DU geek tragedy Jul 2014 #30
I see. Thanks. Ghost Dog Jul 2014 #53
Ugh... Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #35
she is principled and has honor heaven05 Jul 2014 #7
"Firth outed as Ukrainian operative" Bad Thoughts Jul 2014 #8
oh, the Putinsphere will get right on that. geek tragedy Jul 2014 #9
good job stonecutter357 Jul 2014 #10
Why would anyone want to work for RT in the first place? PeoViejo Jul 2014 #11
It's extremely hard to get jobs in journalism that cover interesting, big stories. JDPriestly Jul 2014 #44
Why would anyone want to work at CNN? 2banon Jul 2014 #54
Only Cnn etc.. isn't "state sponsored" .. it's KOCH sponsored.. see the difference? I can. Cha Jul 2014 #57
"Style guide" Bad Thoughts Jul 2014 #13
these reporters have far more integrity and courage than fox news workers samsingh Jul 2014 #14
^^^ n/t tavernier Jul 2014 #15
RT does not equal Fox. Renew Deal Jul 2014 #16
Great career move in the midst of anti-Russia sentiment cosmicone Jul 2014 #17
you really have taken this schtick to the level of performance art. geek tragedy Jul 2014 #18
Which part of what I wrote was untrue? cosmicone Jul 2014 #20
She has rt.com on her resume, she will probably geek tragedy Jul 2014 #22
Not correct. Adrahil Jul 2014 #28
She's not the first to quit for similar reasons. I'm waiting for Thom Hartmann & Amy Goodman to.... Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #32
Yeah, you've got her all figured out. IronGate Jul 2014 #21
she's known for five years they've been lying Skittles Jul 2014 #63
And she was hopeful it would change, IronGate Jul 2014 #64
I wonder if Shep is that naive Skittles Jul 2014 #65
I imagine it's much more convenient to our own biases to prophetically assign motives LanternWaste Jul 2014 #37
But doesn't she know that "50 million US households now watch RT"? You can't get that kind of.... Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #31
Good for Sarah, RT is a Russian propaganda tool. saidsimplesimon Jul 2014 #39
Since the plane was brought down, Putin has been scrambling to come up with something, anything BeyondGeography Jul 2014 #40
^^^This^^^. "Personal pride" and integrity. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #46
although on the trutho meter PatrynXX Jul 2014 #41
Sorry, disagree dreamnightwind Jul 2014 #51
Remember last fall when Greenwald stopped just short of saying Blue_Tires Jul 2014 #52
Greenwald, a RT Pusher? That so figures. I hate the US media but that doesn't mean fucking Cha Jul 2014 #58
NBC + CBS + ABC + FOX + MSNBC + CNN = 1% n/t DeSwiss Jul 2014 #61
RT=Putin EX500rider Jul 2014 #62
Pretty much sums it up. DeSwiss Jul 2014 #66
 

Trajan

(19,089 posts)
3. The propaganda arm of RT ...
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 10:45 AM
Jul 2014

Extends even to DU ...

I will celebrate the day that the RT apologists get their due here ... shameful!

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
29. Undoubtedly yes they are, with maybe the exception of Fox.
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 12:07 PM
Jul 2014

They are often flawed and foolish, but they are not pure propaganda organs controlled by a government.

Rt.com is less credible and anyone citing it for the Ukraine conflict is a Putin-humping horse's ass.

Cha

(297,606 posts)
56. Except RT is FOR the Government of Russia and those USmedia outlets are Against the current Gov.
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 09:40 PM
Jul 2014

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
42. The state of journalism today is really sad.
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 01:04 PM
Jul 2014

The problem is that the "journalists" know how to write, but they don't know history or politics. That's probably because they were raised hearing the news of the journalists who preceded them, and that news was also full of propaganda.

There is in the US also a troubling kink in the system: the news has to be sponsored. The sponsors are big corporations and in the case of NPR foundations that support the big corporations. It's sad, but the very fact that some of our biggest corporations want news that is in sync with their interests rather than with the truth causes problems.

RT is sponsored by the Russian government. That is its conflict of interest. If you watch with full knowledge and awareness that it is in sync not with the truth necessarily but with the interests of its sponsor, the Russian government, then you can watch, wary of its slant.

It's only the very naive who take any news source as the God's truth.

If GE is sponsoring a program or owns a news media outlet, GE is going to decide what will be broadcast. Watcher, listener, reader beware.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
19. Bet he wishes he could. His contract described online is that his content is under his own control.
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 11:30 AM
Jul 2014

He's never done stories on Russia, etc. But most liberal talking shows have been taken off the air in the USA, both on television, radio and streaming video. He was on good venues but they are hard to get now:

Hartmann's 2002 article, "Talking Back To Talk Radio",[3] became part of the original business plan of Air America Radio, and he started his radio program out of his home in Vermont in March 2003. He moved to the Air America network in 2007 and then to the Jones Radio Network (later Dial Global) in 2009. The radio show is also broadcast on community/non-profit stations via Pacifica Radio and Free Speech TV. The Thom Hartmann Program has 2.75 million listeners a week and is one of the top progressive talk radio programs.[4] In 2008 Hartmann started a daily TV show, The Big Picture. The RT network began carrying the show in 2010...

Having worked as a DJ and news director at Lansing radio stations from 1968 to 1978,[5] Hartmann started a radio show in February 2003 on a local station in Vermont; a month later[citation needed] it was picked up on the i.e. America Radio Network and on Sirius Satellite Radio. In 2005, he moved from Vermont to Oregon and, in addition to continuing his national show, also co-hosted a local talk show in Portland, Oregon (with Carl Wolfson, the late Heidi Tauber, and later Christine Alexander), from 2005 until early 2007 on KPOJ, initially an affiliate of Air America Radio owned by Clear Channel Communications. But KPOJ now (March 2013) airs a sports talk format, and is affiliated with Fox Sports Radio.

Hartmann's national program, on the air since 2003 and now in the 3PM to 6PM ET daypart, was chosen by Air America to replace Al Franken on most Air America affiliates in 2007.[24] From 2008 to 2011, Talkers Magazine rated Hartmann the most popular liberal talk show host in America, rising from number 10 among all talk show hosts in 2008 to number 8 in 2011.[25] According to his syndicator Dial Global, more people listen to Hartmann's show on more stations than any other progressive talk show in America. The Thom Hartmann Program is estimated by industry magazine Talkers to have 2.75 million unique listers per week.

As of March 2012, the show was carried on 81 terrestrial radio stations in 34 states as well as on Sirius and XM satellite radio. A community radio station in Africa, Radio Builsa in Ghana, also broadcasts the show. Various local cable TV networks simulcast the program. In addition to Dial Global, a subsidiary of Triton Media Group, the show is now also offered via Pacifica Audioport to non-profit stations in a non-profit compliant format and is simulcast on Dish Network Channel 9415 via Free Speech TV Network.

Many guests appear on the show purporting points of view on diverse social and political topics. Some guests proffer progressive views similar to Hartmann's, but more than half are conservatives, libertarians, or Ayn Rand Institute members[26] who espouse opposing views. A vigorous debate with the host usually ensues. There are four regular guests on the program, and they are sympathetic to Hartmann's political views. Sen. Bernie Sanders (Ind.-VT) appears every Friday during the first hour of the show titled "Brunch with Bernie". Ellen Ratner of the Talk Radio News Service provides Washington commentary daily. Victoria Jones who is the White House correspondent for Talk Radio News Service appears occasionally as does Dr. Ravi Batra an economics professor at SMU.

Like all talk radio shows, The Thom Hartmann Program takes calls from listeners. When callers asked Thom how he was, he used to reply, "I'm great, but I'll get better." But after a time callers would regularly try to elicit this response so he's stopped replying this way routinely. Hartmann ends each show with the phrase, "Activism begins with you, democracy begins with you. Get out there, get active! Tag, you're it!"

Michael Harrison, publisher of radio industry trade magazine Talkers, offered this appraisal of Hartmann:

“He’s entertaining, he’s informative, he’s an original thinker, he’s an author, he’s an original source. In other words, he’s not a B-level talking points host that so many on both the left and the right are...He’s the kind of a host that other people can get their talking points from...”[27]

Hartmann produces and stars in a one hour daily TV show, The Big Picture with Thom Hartmann, which his production company records at the studios of and licenses to the RT news network. It is also shown on Free Speech TV, Dish Network, DirecTV, and on selected local-origination and Public-access television cable TV channels...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thom_Hartmann

He is the only thing on RT that I will watch, so I don't want it banned here at RT.

But when I scour youtube to see more shows on RT from links at DU, I often find the most disgusting psychological manipulation that would work perfectly for Fox News productions. A lot of flash, sensation, music, bobble headed reporters and not a small bit of hate and disinfo.

If Rupert Murdoch doesn't own an interest in RT, he would still approve the style used it. RT may be Russia's Fox News, and they supported Putin over Obama during the Crimea and Syrian situations. It makes me wonder...





Tarheel_Dem

(31,239 posts)
38. Honestly, I think I'd rather be sued than be associated with these assholes. But Hartmann has to...
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 12:30 PM
Jul 2014

stand by his principles, whatever the hell they are.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
43. No. Hartmann is a sane voice in the madhouse of American talk radio.
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 01:09 PM
Jul 2014

It reflects badly on American radio media management that Hartmann is on RT, not on Thom Hartmann.

Id rather be sued than be associated with any media that transmits Rush Limbaugh. Rush is the depths of ignorance and hate. Thom Hartmann is the height of understanding and compassion.

That Thom Hartmann is on RT is a reflection of the sorry state of American media.

American media could not even deal with Phil Donahue. That says it all.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
48. Oh, I don't mean he'd be sued for leaving them. I think he feels he has total control over his show,
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 01:32 PM
Jul 2014
which Firth and others did not have. I doubt any of the others venues offer him a platform with sufficient view numbers combined to equal what he gets at RT.

I am not making the case he is afraid of them but that he's using them, their studios, to produce his youtube videos that get posted here and elsewhere, to get his message out. He has a blog, is on smaller venues, but nowhere near the kind of coverage that MSM gives people to offer their opposition to the GOP and conservatives.

They really have us in a bind due to their buying all kinds of communications, newspapers, magazines, book publishers, television, cable, entertainment and radio. We lost our liberal voices out here in all those venues and now it's almost nonstop conservative and libertarian views, they've even put tags on their stuff to span internet search results.

They clearly are winning in that way of getting their voters riled up and voting; we can't get ours to go and vote, or so we're told. Our vote would undo all of this.

Thanks for the reply and hope you're doing well today, Tarheel.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,239 posts)
49. Unfortunately, demographics don't favor progressive media. We're younger, more active, more diverse.
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 01:48 PM
Jul 2014

So I'm not surprised that we don't do as well in ratings as the networks who cater to the older, whiter, stationary male audience. We're living our lives, and catching news on the fly. Sad, but true.

However, I don't think an alledgedly principled man, like Hartmann can be of any real consequence as long as he's associated, IN ANY WAY, with the Kremlin's most prominent US propaganda outlet. It's just not possible. Ever hear of suffering for your art? A complete & public separation might make him suffer in the short term, but he'll land on his feet in another venue, eventually.

Hope you're doing okay as well.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
6. only dishonest, morally bankrupt shills for the Kremlin try
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 10:51 AM
Jul 2014

to pass off RT coverage of the Ukraine conflict as credible

All Putin-humpers make me queasy, but the ones who try to pass themselves off as progressives, well makes me want to on their shoes

 

Ghost Dog

(16,881 posts)
23. Is it out of place, then, at DU to report
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 11:49 AM
Jul 2014

this kind of observation and analysis?:

... Shot across bows of Russian presidential jet?

... As the Western powers' anti-Russian sanctions are failing to bite and the Kiev government they back is losing on the ground, this may indicate a NATO motive for the attack. If so this sort of audacious act may also be an early test of loyalties by the West's power elite of Britain’s new Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond and Defense Secretary Michael Fallon. The message being, “Watch that you don't get any troublesome ideas of making your own minds up on the matter.”

The timing of the attack is intriguing too, being the day after a historic agreement Putin signed, along with Chinese president Xi Jinping, in the Brazilian city of Fortaleza to create a BRICS World Development Bank. Quite possibly the greatest challenge since Bretton Woods in 1944, to the dubious monopoly of the World Bank, was indeed signed on Wednesday by Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa.

For those that muse on the obsessive nature of those that spend their lives pursuing ever more money until the day they die, there is a shocking recent history of nations and their leaders coming to a sticky end that dare to oppose the global monopoly of the petrodollar, and that of the enforcers at the World Bank and IMF...

... It’s comforting to repeat that nobody wants an economic collapse and nobody wants a world war, but it wouldn't be the first time that ruling elites have deployed these two chestnuts as a 'double whammy'. Making a fortune out of a crash is easy when you can see it coming and, as well as being an archaic 'human sacrifice' to the old gods, war is the best way to distract everybody who might be thinking of locking you up...

/... http://rt.com/op-edge/173788-malaysian-plane-crash-ukraine/
 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
30. It's appropriate for infowars and rense not DU
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 12:09 PM
Jul 2014

it is not observation and analysis, but rather cynically dishonest crazy talk/.

it got hidden yesterday, justifiably so, for being pro-dictatorship crazy talk and propaganda, and as an insult to the victims

anyone promoting it is either a deranged loon, or a blatantly dishonest shill for Putin.

So, no, to answer your question, I would not promote it here as something worth considering

Note that I am not accusing you of promoting it. Just answering your question

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
7. she is principled and has honor
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 10:52 AM
Jul 2014

too bad she might be marginalized now. But tip of the hat to her. Now, if we can get the hacks at faux news to resign in shame, that would be good.

 

PeoViejo

(2,178 posts)
11. Why would anyone want to work for RT in the first place?
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 10:58 AM
Jul 2014

Seems pretty mercenary to even consider the job.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
44. It's extremely hard to get jobs in journalism that cover interesting, big stories.
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 01:16 PM
Jul 2014

Thom Hartmann works there for the reasons explained above: there is no liberal media to speak of in the US that will hire someone with an approach that is open to ideas of all kinds and that has a liberal spiritual base. That means that Hartmann is pretty much banned by the US media except for short appearances on rare occasions.

Our media is owned by the right wing of the country. That goes for every network, etc. except Pacifica. At least that is my impression.

And they want to do away with net neutrality so that here in the US they can control ALL communication the same way they do under dictatorships.

I watch RT with great skepticism, but I watch American media the same way. The Russian propaganda is easier for me to spot because it is so obvious. The American propaganda sometimes fools me.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
54. Why would anyone want to work at CNN?
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 09:19 PM
Jul 2014

My point is that it's all the same.. RT is a state sponsored media, quite obviously the Russian Version of CNN, or if you'd prefer the Russian version of FOX. Understand though, that FOX is the same as CNN et al, just more blatant with the agenda.

Cha

(297,606 posts)
57. Only Cnn etc.. isn't "state sponsored" .. it's KOCH sponsored.. see the difference? I can.
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 09:47 PM
Jul 2014

we know they'll all bullshit. RT is putin controlled. cnn is tea party central.. against the current government of the US.

samsingh

(17,601 posts)
14. these reporters have far more integrity and courage than fox news workers
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 11:05 AM
Jul 2014

these reporters are risking their careers if not lives to speak the truth. the imbeciles at fox are bought by money to spread lies it seems.

Renew Deal

(81,871 posts)
16. RT does not equal Fox.
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 11:17 AM
Jul 2014

RT is the propaganda wing of the Russian government.

Fox is the misinformation wing of the republican party.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
17. Great career move in the midst of anti-Russia sentiment
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 11:25 AM
Jul 2014

Extremely savvy ... she will now get higher paying job offers from the UK and US ...

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
18. you really have taken this schtick to the level of performance art.
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 11:28 AM
Jul 2014

we'll miss you when you're gone

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
20. Which part of what I wrote was untrue?
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 11:31 AM
Jul 2014

If this was based entirely on principles and integrity, she wouldn't have taken the job in the first place OR left a long time ago. Correct?


 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
22. She has rt.com on her resume, she will probably
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 11:36 AM
Jul 2014

need to find a new field in which to work

good for her for finally realizing what a sham operation Rt is and how dishonest both it and those who promote it are, but I certainly would never hire anyone who worked for rt

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
28. Not correct.
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 12:04 PM
Jul 2014

Like many, I think she was probably hoping that Russia was entering a new phase of it's history, away from authoritarian dominance of the media. She was wrong, and has the integrity to recognize it.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,239 posts)
32. She's not the first to quit for similar reasons. I'm waiting for Thom Hartmann & Amy Goodman to....
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 12:16 PM
Jul 2014

disassociate themselves. I mean, since they're such high principled individuals and all. When you become what you claim to despise, it's time for some deep introspection, and it sounds like this young lady did that.

 

IronGate

(2,186 posts)
21. Yeah, you've got her all figured out.
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 11:35 AM
Jul 2014

She was thinking of a better paying job when she made the decision to quit RT.
Of course it wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that RT was outright lying about the shoot down, would it?

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
37. I imagine it's much more convenient to our own biases to prophetically assign motives
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 12:23 PM
Jul 2014

I imagine it's much more convenient to our own biases to prophetically assign motives to those of who's motives we know nothing other than what they tell us...

Savvy, indeed.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,239 posts)
31. But doesn't she know that "50 million US households now watch RT"? You can't get that kind of....
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 12:13 PM
Jul 2014

exposure on any other "US" news network, not even Fox.

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
39. Good for Sarah, RT is a Russian propaganda tool.
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 12:34 PM
Jul 2014

On balance, it must be said that RT is modeled on US government media manipulation (a kind word). It saddens me that our US media, under NSA surveillance, fears retribution should they uncover, or report, any facts that lack prior government approval.



BeyondGeography

(39,379 posts)
40. Since the plane was brought down, Putin has been scrambling to come up with something, anything
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 12:39 PM
Jul 2014

to take the heat off. Being part of the resulting charade at RT is incentive enough for anyone with personal pride to at least consider leaving. I bet Ms. Firth is only the first of many to look elsewhere for employment.

dreamnightwind

(4,775 posts)
51. Sorry, disagree
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 07:40 PM
Jul 2014

I have seen many excellent news reports and discussions on RT. I've always known who funded it, and don't trust it on matters that Russia has a direct interest in (the Syrian uprising, this plane shoot-down, U.S. debt and economic status, etc.) Pretty similar to how I don't trust our own media on matters the U.S. has a direct interest in (which seems to be just about everything since we're running an empire for corporate benefit).

Some differences are that our own propaganda networks are much more subtle, which means the propaganda is less blatant but also means that it's easier to be fooled into thinking you're watching "the news" rather than being presented with the viewpoint of corporations such as AOL/Time Warner, Fox, Disney, Comcast, etc. You're not. RT's bias is clumsy and easier to smell, they just aren't as good at it.

Another major, and for me, important difference, is that RT gives a platform for the American left. Try finding that on any of our corporate networks, go ahead, you won't find it, at all. Why is that? Oh yeah, the money behind our networks won't allow it. Simple as that.

YMMV, and obviously it does, just wanted to put out how it looks from my viewpoint. Reasonable and discerning people can, and do, watch RT and get good info from it. It's a universal law of information: raw data divided by the viewpoint of the data presenter = information. Practice it with everything you hear and read, otherwise you're just getting programmed to think what someone else wants you to think.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
52. Remember last fall when Greenwald stopped just short of saying
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 07:50 PM
Jul 2014

RT had more courage and independence than all the U.S. media combined? lolz

Cha

(297,606 posts)
58. Greenwald, a RT Pusher? That so figures. I hate the US media but that doesn't mean fucking
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 09:48 PM
Jul 2014

putin/RT has it going on.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
66. Pretty much sums it up.
Sat Jul 19, 2014, 10:51 PM
Jul 2014
- The only true ''free press'' is us, the people.


''Freedom of the press is guaranteed only to those who own one.'' ~A. J. Liebling
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