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alp227

(32,021 posts)
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 08:07 PM Jul 2014

Feminist Leaders and Activists Rally for the Equal Rights Amendment

Source: MsMagazine.com

This morning, Congresswomen Carolyn Maloney (D-NY) and Jackie Speier (D-CA) led a solid crowd of Equal Rights Amendment activists and supporters just beyond the steps of the U.S. Supreme Court.

The Congressional leaders cited the Supreme Court's rulings in Burwell v.Hobby Lobby and McCullen v. Coakleyas key reasons for calling the rally. "Recent Supreme Court decisions have sent women's rights back to the Stone Age," Rep. Speier said in a release issued on Tuesday. "Justice Scalia reminds us that the Constitution does not prohibit discrimination based on sex and that corporations have more rights than women do," she continued.

Leaders of national gender equality groups addressed the crowd, including Feminist Majority President Eleanor Smeal; Terry O'Neill, President of the National Organization for Women; Dr. E. Faye Williams, Chair of the National Congress of Black Women; Desiree Hoffman, Advocacy Director for the YWCA; and Jessica Neuwirth, Director of the ERA Coalition.

The representatives shared stories of constituents whose experiences reflect the need for a constitutional amendment that explicitly protects against sex-based discrimination, particularly in light of court decisions that leave victims of sexual violence with limited legal recourse.

Read more: http://www.msmagazine.com/news/uswirestory.asp?ID=15099



if it were a tea party rally it'd have gotten some more hype by the mainstream media!
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Feminist Leaders and Activists Rally for the Equal Rights Amendment (Original Post) alp227 Jul 2014 OP
It could happen! femmocrat Jul 2014 #1
The original proposed ERA amendment expired. It would have to be reintroduced in Congress. n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2014 #3
Not necessarily, according to this site: femmocrat Jul 2014 #5
Yes but it was introduced with an expiration date Reter Jul 2014 #19
Whether a state can rescind its approval is an open constitutional question. PoliticAverse Jul 2014 #24
the 15 states which have NOT ratified the ERA hlthe2b Jul 2014 #2
does the map surprise any of us? no, sadly, it does not. niyad Jul 2014 #4
Actually, yes... brooklynite Jul 2014 #13
back then, those states were not nearly so full of crazies. niyad Jul 2014 #18
OK, Illinois, Maryland and Virginia. Stop twiddling your thumbs. We need the ERA, if only to shut JDPriestly Jul 2014 #8
actually, Maryland has already passed. Assuming we have IL and VA, we need one more hlthe2b Jul 2014 #10
Per the graphic, New Mexico has also already ratified. Jim Lane Jul 2014 #11
You are right... 'Looked at it too quickly. edited to correct and yes, NV is probably likeliest.... hlthe2b Jul 2014 #12
The time has expired. former9thward Jul 2014 #14
If you read the actual article it discusses that and states: hlthe2b Jul 2014 #15
Another argument in favor of the 3 state strategy CTyankee Jul 2014 #16
I did read it. former9thward Jul 2014 #17
There was a court case as to the validity of the recinds, the case was thrown out PoliticAverse Jul 2014 #22
The 1982 deadline was an extension and may not be constitutionally valid. PoliticAverse Jul 2014 #20
are you a constitutional lawyer? hlthe2b Jul 2014 #21
The Supreme Court has found lots of bills passed by Congress to be unconstitutional. PoliticAverse Jul 2014 #23
k and r niyad Jul 2014 #6
stood on street corners in 1980 trying to get signatures UpInArms Jul 2014 #7
Yeah, the Fascist 5 on the SCOTUS def. are eyeing the ERA. They just need a case, to rule against it blkmusclmachine Jul 2014 #9

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
5. Not necessarily, according to this site:
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 10:01 PM
Jul 2014

Last edited Thu Jul 24, 2014, 10:34 PM - Edit history (1)

http://www.equalrightsamendment.org/faq.htm#q5

It would be up to congress to keep it viable and states that previously ratified it cannot rescind their ratification. Good luck with this congress, but there is cause for optimism.

On edit: It has already been re-introduced. http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5287952
 

Reter

(2,188 posts)
19. Yes but it was introduced with an expiration date
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 10:01 PM
Jul 2014

We really would look bad if we ignored it, and also if we tell the states that rescinded before the deadline they can't. They can.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
24. Whether a state can rescind its approval is an open constitutional question.
Sat Jul 26, 2014, 07:34 PM
Jul 2014

The Supreme Court was scheduled to rule on the matter back in 1982 but deferred declaring
the matter 'moot' as the proposed ERA amendment had expired (NOW v. Idaho (1982)).



hlthe2b

(102,262 posts)
2. the 15 states which have NOT ratified the ERA
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 08:19 PM
Jul 2014

The ERA in the States



The Equal Rights Amendment was passed by Congress on March 22, 1972 and sent to the states for ratification by both houses of their state legislatures. A proposed amendment becomes part of the Constitution when approved by three-fourths (38) of the 50 states.

During the next five years, 35 states approved the amendment. By the Congressionally imposed deadline of June 30, 1982, however, no additional states had voted yes, and the ERA fell three states short of ratification.

The 15 states that have not yet ratified the Equal Rights Amendment are Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, Nevada, North Carolina, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Utah, and Virginia.

http://www.equalrightsamendment.org/states.htm

niyad

(113,302 posts)
18. back then, those states were not nearly so full of crazies.
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 06:42 PM
Jul 2014

do not forget--houston was the site of the international women's year conference of the UN in 1977 (with coverage, sadly, buried under international events)

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
8. OK, Illinois, Maryland and Virginia. Stop twiddling your thumbs. We need the ERA, if only to shut
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 12:05 AM
Jul 2014

Scalia up.

hlthe2b

(102,262 posts)
10. actually, Maryland has already passed. Assuming we have IL and VA, we need one more
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 11:12 AM
Jul 2014

Last edited Fri Jul 25, 2014, 01:34 PM - Edit history (1)

and none will be "easy".... North Carolina imo really ought to have been a 'possible' years ago, but who knows now. Nevada, maybe? None of those left are obvious choices for the fight.

edited to correct

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
11. Per the graphic, New Mexico has also already ratified.
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 01:30 PM
Jul 2014

Nevada would probably be a better bet than any of the other states.

hlthe2b

(102,262 posts)
12. You are right... 'Looked at it too quickly. edited to correct and yes, NV is probably likeliest....
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 01:33 PM
Jul 2014

hlthe2b

(102,262 posts)
15. If you read the actual article it discusses that and states:
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 02:16 PM
Jul 2014
Thirty-five states ratified the Equal Rights Amendment by the June 1982 deadline imposed by Congress. Congresswoman Speier has introduced a resolution in the House that would abolish that deadline, and require only three additional states to ratify the amendment before it could become part of the US Constitution. Senators Benjamin Cardin (D-MD) and Mark Kirk (R-IL) have introduced identical legislation in the US Senate. Earlier this year, the Virginia State Senate and the Illinois State Senate passed measures to ratify the ERA.

Feminist Majority President Eleanor Smeal said she's encouraged by the momentum around the ERA. "In the 2014 Virginia state legislative session, the Senate approved the ERA. In late May of 2014, the Illinois Senate approved the ERA by a 60 percent majority. The Equal Rights Amendment will come up in the veto session of the Illinois House in November, and Illinois could become the 36th state to ratify the ERA," she said. "Moreover, the Equal Rights Amendment will be on the state ballot of Oregon in November 2014. The Oregon measure will amend the state Constitution to include an Equal Rights Amendment with wording similar to the federal ERA that was approved by Congress in 1972," Smeal continued.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
16. Another argument in favor of the 3 state strategy
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 03:01 PM
Jul 2014

An alternative strategy for ERA ratification has arisen from the "Madison Amendment," concerning changes in Congressional pay, which was passed by Congress in 1789 and finally ratified in 1992 as the 27th Amendment to the Constitution. The acceptance of an amendment after a 203-year ratification period has led some ERA supporters to propose that Congress has the power to maintain the legal viability of the ERA's existing 35 state ratifications. The legal analysis for this strategy is outlined in "The Equal Rights Amendment: Why the ERA Remains Legally Viable and Properly Before the States," an article by Allison Held, Sheryl Herndon, and Danielle Stager in the Spring 1997 issue of William & Mary Journal of Women and the Law.

Under this rationale, it is likely that Congress could choose to legislatively adjust or repeal the existing time limit constraint on the ERA, determine whether or not state ratifications after the expiration of a time limit in a proposing clause are valid, and promulgate the ERA after the 38th state ratifies.

The Congressional Research Service analyzed this legal argument in 1996 [4] and concluded that acceptance of the Madison Amendment does have implications for the premise that approval of the ERA by three more states could allow Congress to declare ratification accomplished. As of 2007, ratification bills testing this three-state strategy have been introduced in one or more legislative sessions in eight states (Arizona, Arkansas, Florida, Illinois, Mississippi, Missouri, Oklahoma, and Virginia), and supporters are seeking to move such bills in all 15 of the unratified states. [5]

former9thward

(32,003 posts)
17. I did read it.
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 04:04 PM
Jul 2014

I doubt that it is legal. You can't retroactively change expiration dates. There would be no end to litigation in the 35 states that already had ratified it by the expiration dates. Ex post facto laws are prohibited by the Constitution itself. In addition 5 of the 35 states have rescinded their earlier ratification.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
22. There was a court case as to the validity of the recinds, the case was thrown out
Sat Jul 26, 2014, 04:52 PM
Jul 2014

because it was a moot issue as the amendment failed to achieve enough ratifications by
the required date.

Upon consideration of the memorandum for the Administrator of General Services suggesting mootness, filed July 9, 1982, and the responses thereto, the judgment of the United States District Court for the District of Idaho is vacated and the cases are remanded to that court with instructions to dismiss the complaints as moot.


NATIONAL ORGANIZATION FOR WOMEN v. IDAHO ET AL. AND CARMEN January 25, 1982


PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
20. The 1982 deadline was an extension and may not be constitutionally valid.
Sat Jul 26, 2014, 04:38 PM
Jul 2014

The original deadline when the amendment was proposed/passed was March 22, 1979. It failed to achieve
ratification by that date. It's dead.



hlthe2b

(102,262 posts)
21. are you a constitutional lawyer?
Sat Jul 26, 2014, 04:51 PM
Jul 2014


Seems that the Senate and House have ample access to those who are and who would advise them if this bill is not doable.....?

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
23. The Supreme Court has found lots of bills passed by Congress to be unconstitutional.
Sat Jul 26, 2014, 04:58 PM
Jul 2014

It is true that there are some people that believe at this date the (already expired) deadline can be extended.
I don't believe even all the 4 justices on the 'liberal wing' of the current court would agree with that.

The Supreme Court already has accepted the idea that the ERA amendment was dead in NOW v. Idaho (1982)
where they rejected arguments on the ratification as being 'moot' as the deadline for ratification had expired.




UpInArms

(51,283 posts)
7. stood on street corners in 1980 trying to get signatures
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 10:53 PM
Jul 2014

before Ray-gun took office -

knew that he would kill any movement toward equality.

Always wished that reincarnation were real -

that rat bastard would have to come back as a poor old black woman for the world to actually have justice.

 

blkmusclmachine

(16,149 posts)
9. Yeah, the Fascist 5 on the SCOTUS def. are eyeing the ERA. They just need a case, to rule against it
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 01:38 AM
Jul 2014
Burqas soon.
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