Bush Administration Lawsuit Hearing Scheduled for Sept. 11th

[mwyn8]

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Source: Quiet Mike

Earlier this year, the Department of Justice, who is defending the six Bush Administration officials, responded to the lawsuit by requesting that the case be dismissed. The Bush tribe is claiming that the planning of the war occurred within the scope of their employment and therefore they have immunity.

Rather than dismissing the case, the Judge asked for additional information. So Mr. Comar filed a 2nd amended complaint back in June. The amended complaint provides more details about the planning of the Iraq war and when it started.

Comar’s evidence, shows the Bush/Cheney team started planning the invasion of Iraq as far back as 1997. The amended complaint also explains that the war was motivated by personal enrichment and the war was a “crime of aggression.”

Earlier this week. Inder Comar got his chance in court to respond to the motion to dismiss and explain the 2nd amended complaint further. He essentially made two points to the court.

Read more: http://quietmike.org/2014/07/25/bush-administration-lawsuit-hearing/

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FINALLY. I would add my two cents but these couple snips sums it up for me. - Comar’s evidence, shows the Bush/Cheney team started planning the invasion of Iraq as far back as 1997. The amended complaint also explains that the war was motivated by personal enrichment and the war was a “crime of aggression.” and - In light of the treaties and charters that the United States has signed, Comar stated that the defence can’t now claim that acts of aggression are above a leader’s authority. In this case, the Bush Administration.

[liberal N proud]

1. Sept. 11 court date is not coincidental

This is probably the only shot we have of holding these criminals accountable.

1997 means they had to win the 2000 election by hook or crook. We all know which one they used, it was all premeditated.

[brooklynite]

5. Premeditated?

They knew Al Gore was going to run such a crappy campaign that he'd lose ten states won by Clinton, any one of which would have made the Florida result irrelevant?

[Swede Atlanta]

7. I think they saw GWB for what he was....

a weak person who could easily be manipulated. The PNAC crowd may have been actively encouraging GWB to run but at a minimum they saw this as their best opportunity.

I think for the original PNAC crowd 2000 was really the election they needed to win. Those individuals were starting to get "long in the teeth". If they didn't win in 2000 and get things going within a few years many of them would likely be too old to forcefully participate.

[BobbyBoring]

12. How right you are.

PNACs members had been waiting for someone like W to come into the White House.
They also had their sights set on Afghanistan, Syria, and Iran. Had the Afghan and Iraq wars not gone so sideways, we would probably own the M.E. now.

[thesquanderer]

13. What makes you think the date is not coincidental?

Do you think the judge's office (who would set the date) has an agenda, and wanted to be able to milk something from the date?

Also, 1997 doesn't mean anything about 2000. Even if indicating what they would try to do if they won, so what? If not 2000, there was always 2004. I don't think their ability/desire to win (legally or not, as you imply) was increased or decreased by the existence of plans for what they would do if able.

I guess what I'm saying is your post sounds like unsupportable conspiracy theory stuff.

[lovuian]

2. The Iraq War bankrupted America

and they planned to steal the social security money to pay for it
and then leave the US people poverty stricken

pretty much went as planned except the internet exposed them

[mountain grammy]

3. It's not over yet, just delayed.

[Swede Atlanta]

4. That's what the evidence has shown for over a decade.......

The PNAC planned the Iraq War well before GWB was President. They even state in their documents that they needed another attack like Pearl Harbor to be able to start their war.

I am not a total conspiracist but I believe it is entirely possible that, once in office and armed with the warning that AQ was committed to doing something on U.S. soil, they intentionally didn't do anything about the warnings. They figured if AQ was successful they would tie this back to Iraq and they could have their war.

Unfortunately for them the direct linkage was back to AQ in Afghanistan so they had to do the "show" war there just to satisfy Congress and the American people. They let that simmer a while and then started fabricating the justification for the Iraq War and beating the drums of war.

Look at who Bush brought into his administration. They were almost all associated in one way or another with the PNAC bunch.

[Jack Rabbit]

14. Your conspiracy is more plausible than some others we've heard

That 911 was an inside job is utter nonsense. If it had been, Ground Zero would have been littered with evidence (forged, of course) that the culprits were Iraqi intelligence agents. Instead, it was littered with evidence that the culprits were Arabian nationals with ties to Al Qaida. While listening to the radio on the way to work, I began to wonder who would do such a thing and the name Osama bin Laden popped into my mind. Of course. His calling card was coordinated attacks on multiple targets, such as US embassies in Africa.

The conspiracy -- if that's the word for it -- was in full gear even before the fire was out on the Pentagon. The Frat Boy, who was too stupid a man to be a good liar, asked counterintelligence chief Richard Clarke to look into an Iraqi connection to the attacks. However, Mr. Clarke protested; he already knew that Saddam got out of the terrorism business after attempting to assassinate former President Bush and getting his country bombed as a result.

The conspiracy -- again, if that's the right word for it -- was how to blame Saddam for Osama's misdeeds. In the end, apparently to get Prime Minister Blair on board, the Frat Boy had to be taken kicking and screaming into Afghanistan to go after Al Qaida before going into Iraq and going after Saddam. This gave the Bushies time to build a case against Saddam, but it had collapsed by the time the invasion began. Nobody but Americans inside the US getting their news from the mainstream media (librul media my ass!) and the willfully ignorant outside the US believed that Saddam had any connections to Al Qaida or possessed a biochemical arsenal. More evidence that Saddam had no WMDs came as the invasion began. Just before the balloon went up, American and British troops were massed on Kuwait's border with Iraq. If I were the commander-in-chief of a nation about to be invaded by troops massed in a relatively small area on the border and I had a biochemical arsenal, that is when I would have used them. The commander-in-chief would have been derelict in my duty if he did not. Instead, Saddam fired four SCUDs; three flew into the Persian Gulf and the other fell harmlessly on land. That was his best shot.

[mountain grammy]

6. Sending all my positive energy and hope for justice to Inder Comar

just where the fuck is the so called "liberal media?" Thank you Quiet Mike and mwyn8 for the glimmer of hope.

[Iliyah]

8. Back yonder especially with CNN, the news was pretty fair and balanced

with qualified "journalist". That's what the conservatives hate and therefore called it "liberal" media. Today, with the exception of some news media shows, facts don't mean shit, propaganda has taken its place. Does it make the USA weaker and dumber, ya betcha!

Never will hear about this hearing with the exception of someone on MSNBC.

[mwyn8]

9. Liberal media

I Wish! There is a hugh grass roots movement going on around the world and you won't see it published by the 6 corporate owned media moguls. Only Al Jazzeera covers some of them. Did you hear about the march against austerity June 21st? London - in front of the bbc & none of it covered. Thousands upon thousands showed up. Complete silence. I attended the march against monsanto - local station covered it for 30 seconds to a minute. And the footage was from the year before. That was also a global event. I'm wondering if this part of the assault against net neutrality. 'Cause I'm getting my news from the net.

[brooklynite]

10. Here's what will happen...

...nothing.

The lawsuit won't go forward, and no elected official, up to and including progressive stalwarts Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren will complain.

[jwirr]

11. This is indeed good news. Considering our courts lately I doubt this will reach the conclusion we

would like but at least someone is trying. To bad American people cannot join the suit due to the debt that was run up in our name for this war.

[DonViejo]

15. Locking...

The hearing results might qualify as LBN, but LBN Hosts believe this is too much in the analysis column. There is some question whether "Quiet Mike" is a reliable news source for LBN.