House Republicans Vote To Sue President Barack Obama
Source: BBC News
The US House of Representatives is set to pass legislation authorising it to sue President Barack Obama for what Republican leaders describe as his overreach of authority. The resolution is expected to pass the Republican-controlled chamber in a party line vote on Wednesday.
Its sponsors say Mr Obama exceeded his powers when he delayed an insurance deadline in his healthcare law.
The president's aides say the prospective suit is a political stunt. Mr Obama's Democratic allies say it is legally groundless and will cost taxpayers millions of dollars, and has only been devised to rally the Obama-hating Republican base ahead of the November mid-term elections.
The White House says the president has acted within his constitutional authority as chief executive of the US government, and Democrats have sought to raise money off the issue by warning that the suit is a prelude to impeachment proceedings.
"This lawsuit is frivolous on steroids,'' Democratic Congressman Alcee Hastings of Florida said on Tuesday at a preliminary committee meeting. "It's absolutely insane what you all are doing."
Republicans in Congress have complained that Mr Obama has exceeded his constitutional authority on numerous occasions, in order to bypass Congress by issuing executive orders.
Read more: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-28565772
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(52,219 posts)big_dog
(4,144 posts)Marie Marie
(9,999 posts)Wait, that made no sense - just like this lawsuit.
santamargarita
(3,170 posts)DURHAM D
(32,609 posts)Thanks
big_dog
(4,144 posts)updated
George II
(67,782 posts)DURHAM D
(32,609 posts)he edited. Click on box in lower left corner that says "Thread Info" and you can see original post.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)former9thward
(32,003 posts)savalez
(3,517 posts)This will rally Dem voters to get out and vote too.
Boehner is the worst Speaker of the house in history.
big_dog
(4,144 posts)if youre not on offense, you are backpedaling on D. the mid term party preference polling is looking excatly the same as 2012--dems +2 no GOP waves!!
savalez
(3,517 posts)What's it going to take to create a Dem wav again?
randys1
(16,286 posts)the shit hitting the fan that will ensue.
I am funny that way, I learned it from Carlin, watching disasters is fun.
Not just a disaster for the R party for their future, but hopefully they will piss off enough people, finally, that all hell breaks loose even if just politically.
Imagine a Black controlled govt for 200 yrs, then the first white Prez is elected, then impeached by the 200 yr old Black establishment, white people would go off their nut, completely.
Oops, i hope that comment doesnt get me in trouble again, a white guy (me) criticizing other white people for being complete assholes, I am speaking of rightwingers by the way.
blackspade
(10,056 posts)Swede Atlanta
(3,596 posts)The constitutional remedy for a President (Executive) that does not uphold his or her oath of office to faithfully execute the laws........ is impeachment.
If you recall the House hired counsel and claimed to be defending DOMA when the AG said the administration would no longer defend it in court because they believe it was unconstitutional. I don't know how involved, if at all, the House representative was but I would expect they lacked standing. The suit was by the plaintiffs against the United States government. Authority to defend the U.S. at court is held in the Executive branch. When it fails to defend I am not aware of any constitutional or statutory authority that gives Congress the right to step in.
The same exists here. In order to have standing under our "cases and controversies" requirement, the plaintiff(s) have to have suffered specific injury. This is why a taxpayer that doesn't like the fact the government is giving foreign aid doesn't have standing to sue to stop the practice. The taxpayer is only "generally" injured by the alleged practice.
The same should apply here. Congress is not directly injured by Obama's actions. They are only generally affected. I believe even if the Court accepts the case, it will never be decided on the merits but dismissed on the basis of standing.
savalez
(3,517 posts)He allowed Businesses one extra year to get it together. Oooohhh.
They are hoping it'll be in the news until November. As the congressional Dems say, it's a "political stunt".
Botany
(70,504 posts)They can't fund the Highway Trust Fund but they can spend time and money on this crap
that will get tossed out of court for lack of standing* in a heartbeat.
* Assuming it is an honest court.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)These idiots wear their asshats on their feet and their clown shoes on their heads.
savalez
(3,517 posts)onecaliberal
(32,854 posts)big_dog
(4,144 posts)Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)safeinOhio
(32,675 posts)How much rope do they require?
mountain grammy
(26,620 posts)sorefeet
(1,241 posts)Can't someone sue the Republican congress. Can't we the people sue congress for all the corruption. How many billions of tax payer money have they spent on shutting down the government and all the votes to stop Obama care. Plus who knows how much more taxpayer money they wasted on obstruction.
jmowreader
(50,557 posts)The Republicans are in love with the idea that unless Article I, Section 8, of the Constitution specifically says Congress can do something, they can't. So John, get out your Constitution and follow along:
This is the complete list of enumerated powers granted to Congress by the Constitution:
To borrow money on the credit of the United States;
To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;
To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;
To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;
To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;
To establish Post Offices and Post Roads;
To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;
To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;
To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations;
To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;
To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;
To provide and maintain a Navy;
To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;
To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;
To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;
To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings; And
To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.
Where is Suing the President in this?
former9thward
(32,003 posts)http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/gop-led-house-ready-lawsuit-obama-24767773
Shrike47
(6,913 posts)samsingh
(17,598 posts)plans to impeach the President - it's a liberal ploy to raise money.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)big_dog
(4,144 posts)aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)yurbud
(39,405 posts)We all knew it was understood among the founding fathers, like the right to bear AK-47s at Walmart.
yurbud
(39,405 posts)Or do they think we were?
Bush did infinitely worse abuses of presidential power and they didn't let out a peep.
former9thward
(32,003 posts)http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/gop-led-house-ready-lawsuit-obama-24767773