Charleston Daily Mail fires writer who called Michael Brown an animal that was put down
Source: JimRomenesko.com
Charleston Daily Mail has fired Don Surber over his blog post calling Michael Brown an animal that was put down.
Editor and publisher Brad McElhinny says of his dismissed staffer:
Its his own blog, but still, hes known as a Daily Mail editorial columnist and many readers seemed to perceive the views stated to reflect on the Daily Mails editorial policy.
They dont. And this newspaper is working to rebuild the communitys trust.
Read more: http://jimromenesko.com/2014/10/30/charleston-daily-mail-fires-editorial-writer-who-called-michael-brown-an-animal-that-was-put-down/
notrightatall
(410 posts)He/she should have went first.
Newsjock
(11,733 posts)It was in the writer's own blog, which meant that it didn't have to go through the editors.
randys1
(16,286 posts)Constantly saying tens of millions but I say it because each time we hear a story like this we contextualize it in such a way that the comment or behavior by the person is in some way out of the mainstream or unusual or something to be jolted or surprised by.
NO
There are so many people out there who refer to our First Lady as Manchelle, who instantly assume ANY minority arrested for ANY reason is absolutely guilty, who assume all minorities bearing witness to a crime scene are all lying, etc.
It would be one thing if the right of this country was ONLY corrupt and thieves, which they are, or ONLY bigots and racists and intolerant hating assholes, which they are, but they are all these things and more.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)have more faith that people understand and definitely agree with you. Just be careful with wording. You can offend some people here very easily with ANY type of truth. To be effective for the ones who need it, wording is everything. I had to learn that here. Not dilute the message, that only helps the offenders feel justified, just words that are carefully chosen. Use language against them.
randys1
(16,286 posts)Problem is mainstream people need to demand the bigots and thieves be shamed, and we never demand that.
Until we agree that certain attitudes and behavior simply isnt acceptable, we will all be behind the eight ball.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)many millions of people simply cannot stomach the objectionable racism and bigotry that came out in the open in 2008. Yet it was not unexpected by me. Been fighting these idiotic and ignorant type of people for 51 years. Been demanding my human dignity for the same. I will keep fighting. I hope you do also. Actually with your passion for what is right, you're a cue ball knocking the hell out of ignorance and stupidity as exhibited by the open and not so open racists and bigots. They won't realize it till you run the table. One of my favorite games.
randys1
(16,286 posts)I love to play the game.
Wanna hear funny story? The best I ever played I was living in Jackson Hole, WY running whitewater raft trips down the Snake River, well mostly driving the bus but I got a few trips in and down the road was a beer and wine bar with several tables.
One night I was tending bar as we kind of took turns back then, in this place called Hoback Junction
http://www.jacksonholenet.com/nearby_towns/hoback_junction.php
and I happened to have, how do we say, smoked a joint before I played, and I ran the table on challenger after challenger.
I have not done it since, something about the stars aligning that night, I bet the pot helped.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)robbob
(3,538 posts)I am passionate about the game. Running the table is definitely the sign of an experienced played. If you're ever in Montreal on a Thursday night come to the Barfly, best little dive on the plateau and put your name up on the chalk board. Just look for "Doctor Rob" as they call me, usually around 11pm. We'll play some pool before and after getting high and see if it makes a difference!
randys1
(16,286 posts)heaven05
(18,124 posts)thanks for the info.
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)some prefer the "few random assholes" meme to the truth. there are many people in america who agree with this person, and some of them call themselves democrats. some even post here.
randys1
(16,286 posts)or school or wherever.
Some of these disgusting people hold power over decent people either through employment or whatever, it is then when you fully come to realize just how bad they are.
calimary
(81,466 posts)We have to start doing more of it ourselves. A LOT MORE OF IT. Something I learned in radio, and I see it cloned all over the place especially throughout the evil broadcasting empire - the Excrement In Broadcasting network and Pox Noise and wherever the noxious gas giants hold forth and blight the earth and the public's airwaves. Repeat, repeat, repeat. DRIVE HOME THE MESSAGE as if by pile-driver. As if by broken record. AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN. That's how we start to break through the brainwashing. There's a big fat void in the brains of the idiots and the gullibles out there who believe it's just fine for somebody else to do their thinking for them. Especially if they believe God is somehow involved in that godless belief system. Actually, it's more like a FALSE-god belief system.
WHAT'S SO BAD ABOUT REPEATING OUR MESSAGE????? And repeating the advocacy and the facts and the instructive illumination of TRUTH into their darkness? I think the problem is that we haven't been repeating it ENOUGH!!!!
We still have too many people on our side who think you just say it once and that's all you need. You put it on the record (sort of our version of a sick, distorted, chuck-todd-think) and that'll be that. I have become nauseous listening and watching as our people consistently fall back on "the American People will SEE! They'll KNOW! They'll SEE how it's going and they'll SEE how they're being screwed, and ..." The sad truth is - they WON'T. They just WON'T. They CAN'T! Not with all that oppositional toxic sludge being pumped into their lizard brains through their eyes and ears. They can't possibly "SEE" or "KNOW" when they're being force-fed everything but the truth and the facts. A solid, constant diet of toxic spin will lead to anemic, dumbed-down, more-gullible, more-naive, more ill-informed, more ignorant (and then the bad guys keep putting such a shine on it - wrapping it all up in nice shiny American flag wrapping paper with the Cross and the Bible as package decorations - that one actually becomes PROUD of that ignorance and embraces it as though one's very life depends on it).
Joe Madison has been a big offender in that. I've actually heard that "... but the American People will SEE!" crap coming out of his mouth on multiple occasions. Yep, that's what we need, Joe. More dancing down the garden path. They're fuckin' STUPID, Joe, and they HAVE TO BE REEDUCATED, REHABILITATED, RESCUED AND RECLAIMED. We need an INTERVENTION, Joe, not just more pablum that gives more credit to the know-nothings than they'll EVER deserve - because they've ceded their brains and their reasoning power and their objective thinking and judgment TO THE DARK SIDE.
Don't EVER EVER EVER make the mistake of assuming that "the American People will SEE!" They WON'T. Assuming that "the American People will KNOW!" With all that pounding and pushing from the Dark Side, pushing against us AND those same "American People" - NO WAY will those American People either see OR know. UNLESS WE PUSH BACK, AND KEEP DOING IT ALL THE TIME, 24/7/365. And it unfortunately IS up to US. Do you want to leave it to the DNC and just count on them to take care of it? Yeah, leave it to Miss Beltway-Only Debbie Wasserman-Schultz and all her little Beltway-Only friends. I think their problem is that they assume the same stupid mistaken shit that Joe Madison does. And they couldn't be more naive OR wrong.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)logosoco
(3,208 posts)I enjoy the folks here at DU so much, and I feel so connected to the outside world (I am a stay at home grandma!) and I like to think of the world out there as full of DUers, but, alas, it is not. And there are probably more bigots and generic assholes than I want to think about.
I am glad this paper fired the guy. Any paper needs to be in the present, and those views are going to die out (someday, I hope!)
Iamthetruth
(487 posts)While I'm sure many pele think the shooting was justified, I doubt you could find millions of people who view it with that type of vulgarity.
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sinkingfeeling
(51,473 posts)sakabatou
(42,174 posts)Who the hell allowed it to run, though?
thesquanderer
(11,991 posts)3auld6phart
(1,050 posts)As stated in a couple of other posts,it was Subers own blog.Therefore no editor can touch
the jerks thoughts/posts.Stay cool.
sakabatou
(42,174 posts)calimary
(81,466 posts)Glad you're here! Must say I'm intrigued by your screen name...
cheapdate
(3,811 posts)The comments were so vile, so cruel, and so immoral as to shock the conscience of any decent human being. Gaaagh!
brentspeak
(18,290 posts)cheapdate
(3,811 posts)What was said was more than simply "unfortunate" and demands a much more forceful repudiation than what was given.
"...in our view"? Holy Crap! As if there's a reasoned, principled position where "a dangerous thug who needed to be put down like a rabid dog" is a morally justified perspective that deserves some kind of place in public discourse?
Bullshit. I'm a huge fan of civil debate. Civil debate requires at least that we recognize the right of different opinions to engage in the public sphere. But there's a limit. Some ideas are simply "beyond the pale" and have no place nor deserve any right to be heard.
My disgust is first and foremost directed toward the cretin who wrote those words, but the paper's "apology" didn't go nearly far enough.
I'd guess they either half-way agree with sentiment if not the choice of metaphor, or they wanted to carefully apologize without offending the part of their readership who wholeheartedly agreed with it, Hell Yeah!
This is dangerous kind of talk and it should be condemned in no uncertain terms.
I stand by my post.
savalez
(3,517 posts)heaven05
(18,124 posts)what has happened. Hell he'll be on foxsnooze soon. Or writing for stormfront. GOOD RIDDANCE!!!!
americannightmare
(322 posts)and I'm not at all afraid to offend people here. I'm fucking sick of this monstrous, dehumanizing racism. Same with the Halloween Ray Rice and girlfriend costumes, and so many others...I'm done!
appalachiablue
(41,171 posts)americannightmare
(322 posts)I'll let George Carlin speak for me this time....
appalachiablue
(41,171 posts)dembotoz
(16,832 posts)malthaussen
(17,216 posts)For a change.
-- Mal
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Adenoid_Hynkel
(14,093 posts)and is blaming his readers.
What a loser!
savalez
(3,517 posts)Please elaborate. How is he blaming his readers?
Adenoid_Hynkel
(14,093 posts)Is what I'm getting from him
savalez
(3,517 posts)What a prick! Thx.
vlyons
(10,252 posts)When vulgar speech like this pops up in the public domain, I am reminded of my Mother's saying that "foolish names and foolish faces always show up in public places." As a Buddhist, more and more, I don't get angry and outraged by such hateful speech. Rather it simply strikes me as vulgar. "Vulgar" was not a word that used to occur to me very often, if at all. But now, I find myself regarding so much of what I hear from the RWers as simply "vulgar." More importantly, I am reminded to reflect on the Buddhist precepts of "Right Speech." And so I share some excepts about Right Speech written Beth Roth from tricycle.com
The Buddha was unequivocal about the importance of how we employ our human capacity for speech and verbal interaction. Right Speech, also called Wise Speech or Virtuous Speech, is speech that gives rise to peace and happiness in oneself and others. The word Right is not a moral judgment to be contrasted with bad or wrong, but means leading to happiness for oneself and others.
The Buddha was precise in his description of Right Speech. He defined it as abstinence from false speech, abstinence from malicious speech, abstinence from harsh speech, and abstinence from idle chatter. In the vernacular this means not lying, not using speech in ways that create discord among people, not using swear words or a cynical, hostile or raised tone of voice, and not engaging in gossip. Re-framed in the positive, these guidelines urge us to say only what is true, to speak in ways that promote harmony among people, to use a tone of voice that is pleasing, kind, and gentle, and to speak mindfully in order that our speech is useful and purposeful.
Right Speech is a mindfulness practice. By undertaking this practice, we commit to greater awareness of our body, mind, and emotions. Mindfulness makes it possible to recognize what we are about to say before we say it, and thus offers us the freedom to choose when to speak, what to say, and how to say it. With mindfulness, we see that the heart is the ground from which our speech grows. We learn to restrain our speech in moments of anger, hostility, or confusion, and over time, to train the heart to more frequently incline towards wholesome states such as love, kindness and empathy. From these heart states Right Speech naturally arises.
MontyPow
(285 posts)GreydeeThos
(958 posts)Probably won't miss more than one paycheck.