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uhnope

(6,419 posts)
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 03:58 PM Dec 2014

Putin Cancels Christmas Vacation for Russian Government Employees

Source: Time

"The government... cannot afford such extensive holidays, at least not this year," Putin said

Russian President Vladimir Putin said Thursday that he has canceled holiday vacations for members of the government, as the Kremlin struggles to address Russia’s plummeting national currency and embattled economy.

Putin delivered the bad news during a Christmas Day speech, saying that government employees had to work through Christmas to help solve Russia’s growing economic crisis, caused by sinking oil prices and Westerns sanctions. (Christmas is celebrated in Russia on Jan. 7, the traditional date in the Eastern Orthodox Church.)

“The Government and its various structures cannot afford such extensive holidays, at least not this year,” Putin told government ministers in a speech broadcast on state television, CNN reports. “You know what I am talking about.”

Read more: http://time.com/3647477/vladimir-putin-russia-christmas/

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Putin Cancels Christmas Vacation for Russian Government Employees (Original Post) uhnope Dec 2014 OP
The far right wing's darling just declared war on Christmas! Major Nikon Dec 2014 #1
That distant "BANG!" you just heard? 1step Dec 2014 #3
... RKP5637 Dec 2014 #5
What a beautiful sound! Plucketeer Dec 2014 #8
The thing they love most about Putin is his "decisiveness" and taking swift action Major Nikon Dec 2014 #11
That BANG? Somebody was playing Russia's new national anthem in Putin's honor Jack Rabbit Dec 2014 #12
Whadda Grinch! nt MADem Dec 2014 #36
and rtracey Dec 2014 #2
Bingo! 1step Dec 2014 #4
A lot of people. former9thward Dec 2014 #15
time rtracey Dec 2014 #58
Yes, I know, at some time in the future former9thward Dec 2014 #59
No Christmas for you, get back to work Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #6
He didn't "make" anyone do that. He *asked* the population to spend their vacation their newthinking Dec 2014 #24
yes, the little dictator "asked" Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #39
Happens a lot when right wingers post from the inaccurate RT that sound just like the spam emails... LanternWaste Dec 2014 #53
Of course you get the requisite putin explainer on what he's really all about.. Cha Dec 2014 #30
Direct foreign exchange with China is coming Monday jakeXT Dec 2014 #7
Heh, so Obama can now be blamed for declaring War on Russia's Christmas. eggplant Dec 2014 #9
But, but, but.... SoapBox Dec 2014 #10
Call off Christmas tavernier Dec 2014 #13
Hear the one about Putin and the Super Bowl ring? True Blue Door Dec 2014 #14
Oooh wee ooh! What a bizarre thing to do! If true, that is... freshwest Dec 2014 #20
It's true--Putin STOLE Bob Kraft's ring! MADem Dec 2014 #37
Looks like there is some kind of personality disorder at work there.WTF did he want with it? Weird! freshwest Dec 2014 #38
The gold and diamonds--they're expensive pieces of jewelry!! nt MADem Dec 2014 #42
That'll teach him to put anything he values in Putin's grubby little grabby hands. Cha Dec 2014 #31
Yep, true Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #40
Meanwhile, U.S. Federal Employees enjoyed our day off AnnieBW Dec 2014 #16
Yay! Merry Christmas from Obama! freshwest Dec 2014 #21
**day** off. The irony of this OP. Everyone fell for a misrepresentation newthinking Dec 2014 #23
Wow, really reorg Dec 2014 #27
No--two days. The 26th was declared a federal holiday this year. MADem Dec 2014 #43
meanwhile close to 50 millon Americans Ramses Dec 2014 #17
So? At least we have them.. and appreciate them. Nobody is calling it a paradise but that doesn't Cha Dec 2014 #32
or the homeless and hungry Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #41
Poor souls.. "25% of all Russian men die before they reach their mid-fifties.. " Cha Dec 2014 #44
yes and some here Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #46
Their big bully hero.. censoring the internet and crushing dissenters. Cha Dec 2014 #47
I do fail to see how they can support that idiot Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #48
What do you mean so? Ash_F Dec 2014 #55
I bet he took his own vacation. Third Doctor Dec 2014 #18
Wow! I really didn't believe it possible for them to have so much trouble from oil prices, sanctions freshwest Dec 2014 #19
The Putin explainers were laughing and saying when the sanctions started that this was nothing Cha Dec 2014 #33
They certainly were. So many have underestimated the Prez. Interesting to hear that Putin is feeling freshwest Dec 2014 #35
Right.. I hate this for the Russian People.. it's Putin who has brought this on his own People.. Cha Dec 2014 #45
This story is a lie. Normally government employees get **10** business days off during the holidays newthinking Dec 2014 #22
No surprise here, this is what I expect from this poster reorg Dec 2014 #25
Tabloid media - Emotional response is more important than facts. Dry facts unfortunately don't newthinking Dec 2014 #26
+1 Brickbat Dec 2014 #49
Canceling Christmas Vacations? Ryan Fitzomething Dec 2014 #28
It appears chess beat marbles. nt babylonsister Dec 2014 #29
Hey, I think so, babylonsistah.. Cha Dec 2014 #34
Reminds me of this: Brigid Dec 2014 #50
hes afraid people will leave and not come back. Crimea is allowed but MasterCard and Visa have suspe Sunlei Dec 2014 #51
hundreds of thousands are leaving every year uhnope Dec 2014 #52
Russians have way more vacation days than people in US. LisaL Dec 2014 #54
What a Scrooge! /nt Ash_F Dec 2014 #56
I had read that in Russia treestar Dec 2014 #57

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
11. The thing they love most about Putin is his "decisiveness" and taking swift action
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 06:18 PM
Dec 2014

Or in other words, cowboy diplomacy with little regard for the ramifications of making stupid choices. Kinda reminds me of the Bush administration.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
12. That BANG? Somebody was playing Russia's new national anthem in Putin's honor
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 06:35 PM
Dec 2014

A musical representation of Russia under Putin . . . first, we hear the people, completely fooled as people listening to official government propaganda often are, cheer the great leader, but then . . . the floor falls out from under him and the currency collapses and the same people run him out of town, tarred and feathered on a rail . . .
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former9thward

(32,023 posts)
15. A lot of people.
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 07:55 PM
Dec 2014

And so far they have been right. Russia's economy is heavily dependent on oil prices. There is no evidence sanctions have played any significant impact. You don't see Putin leaving Crimea do you?

former9thward

(32,023 posts)
59. Yes, I know, at some time in the future
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 04:04 PM
Dec 2014

all predictions will be right. Well, time is not on anyone's side.

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
6. No Christmas for you, get back to work
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 05:05 PM
Dec 2014

He also made government employees vacation this summer in Crimea to help save the tourist industry.

newthinking

(3,982 posts)
24. He didn't "make" anyone do that. He *asked* the population to spend their vacation their
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 02:15 AM
Dec 2014

and worked out a deal with Russian airlines to offer discounted flights.

I get very frustrated when Right wingers quote their innacurate sources. It makes it so much more difficult to try and have a reasonable discussion.

I can't believe that the same thing is now happening here. These OPs sound just like the spam emails that circulate.




 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
39. yes, the little dictator "asked"
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 05:00 AM
Dec 2014

and also had foreign travel restricted for many people to enforce the "request". Kind of hard for the airlines to not bow to his "request" when opposition end up with bogus charges and are sent to jail. And prove that I am a right winger or apologize. Just because I do not agree with the actions of a dictator that invaded another country breaking signed agreements and international law does not make me one.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
53. Happens a lot when right wingers post from the inaccurate RT that sound just like the spam emails...
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 11:57 AM
Dec 2014

"I get very frustrated when Right wingers quote their innacurate (sic) sources..."

Happens a lot when right wingers post from the inaccurate RT that sound just like the spam emails...

Cha

(297,304 posts)
30. Of course you get the requisite putin explainer on what he's really all about..
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 03:34 AM
Dec 2014

Bipartisan Report @Bipartisanism
Follow
President #Obama saved the American economy while sanctioning Russia into recession. Bravo.
#ObamasFault #Seattle
12:50 PM - 26 Dec 2014 65 Retweets 42 favorites

http://theobamadiary.com/2014/12/26/2014-japas-most-memorable-moments/

jakeXT

(10,575 posts)
7. Direct foreign exchange with China is coming Monday
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 05:10 PM
Dec 2014

The China Foreign Exchange Trade System will begin such contracts with Malaysia’s ringgit, Russia’s ruble, and the New Zealand dollar from Dec. 29, it said in a statement on its website today. That will extend the yuan’s swaps trading to 11 currencies on the interbank foreign-exchange market.

A plunge in Russia’s ruble this month to a record low sparked a selloff in developing nations’ assets, leading to a surge in currency volatility. The new contracts come amid efforts by China to increase the international use of the yuan, as the world’s second-largest economy promotes it as an alternative to the U.S. dollar for global trade and finance. Malaysia and Russia are China’s eighth and ninth biggest trading partners, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.

“This will provide companies with better hedging tools, and at the same time, make currency trading more efficient,” said Ju Wang, a senior currency strategist at HSBC Holdings Plc in Hong Kong. “China won’t stop yuan globalization or capital-account opening because of the volatility in emerging market currencies.”

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-12-26/china-extends-forwards-swaps-trading-to-three-more-currencies.html

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
10. But, but, but....
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 05:54 PM
Dec 2014

Ohhhhhh, PukeBaggers are so confused.

They loves Christmas...but hates gub'ment and the employees...

Do we hates Putie or loves Putie?

Soooo confused.

tavernier

(12,392 posts)
13. Call off Christmas
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 06:47 PM
Dec 2014

Cancel the kitchen scraps for lepers and orphans, no more merciful beheadings, and call off Christmas.

True Blue Door

(2,969 posts)
14. Hear the one about Putin and the Super Bowl ring?
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 07:21 PM
Dec 2014

According to New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft, a funny thing happened in 2005 when he visited Vladimir Putin in Russia.

I took out the (Super Bowl) ring and showed it to (Putin), and he put it on and he goes, 'I can kill someone with this ring,'" Kraft said at an event this week, via the New York Post. "I put my hand out and he put it in his pocket, and three KGB guys got around him and walked out.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/22429359/patriots-owner-robert-kraft-vladimir-putin-stole-my-super-bowl-ring

Of course, since George W. Bush loved him some Putin, his regime basically told Kraft to pretend it was a gift to Putin rather than complain.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
38. Looks like there is some kind of personality disorder at work there.WTF did he want with it? Weird!
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 04:42 AM
Dec 2014

newthinking

(3,982 posts)
23. **day** off. The irony of this OP. Everyone fell for a misrepresentation
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 01:48 AM
Dec 2014

One thing that folks can't criticize Russia (or most of Europe for that matter) for is the time off they give employees. Far more than the US.

Even this year: Putin asked that key staff not take the whole 2 weeks because there is a lot of work to do indeed with what is going on.

Before somebody jumps on the "putinboy" slam... It is not defending Putin to pay attention to the truth and a media that distorts facts.

reorg

(3,317 posts)
27. Wow, really
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 02:26 AM
Dec 2014

an entire day? You mean, one, a single day for Christmas?

Thanks to President Obama?

How gracious!

My paid free days every year: 24. (holiday granted by most companies), 25./26. public holiday, 31. (holiday granted by most companies), 1. New Year, public holiday.

The Russians, I hear, get the first 12 days of every year, amazing. This year, Putin asked the government ministers not take all these 12 days off, but the 7. (Christmas in Russia) is, of course, still a legal holiday and free for everyone, including the ministers.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
43. No--two days. The 26th was declared a federal holiday this year.
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 05:10 AM
Dec 2014

FWIW, military members get 30 days of vacation a year. Of course, those 30 days will include the weekends if you take holidays during them, because military personnel are on duty 24/7. That said, with a little clever arranging one can get a lot of time off out of those thirty days, especially if assigned to a shore activity.

Christmas is a holiday if you're not standing watch, as is any named federal holiday, Thanksgiving, New Year's Day, etc.

The Russians also get paid in the dark, so they need to be compensated in some fashion. Putin--if you take out all the corruption that enables him to have a fine watch collection worth hundred times more than his annual salary--doesn't get a very good paycheck either. However, he's apparently free to skim and take a bit of vig to his heart's content.

 

Ramses

(721 posts)
17. meanwhile close to 50 millon Americans
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 12:13 AM
Dec 2014

will rely on food stamps to survive in this glorious paradise we call the United States.

Cha

(297,304 posts)
32. So? At least we have them.. and appreciate them. Nobody is calling it a paradise but that doesn't
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 03:40 AM
Dec 2014

make Russia any paradise either.. especially for Gay People.

Cha

(297,304 posts)
44. Poor souls.. "25% of all Russian men die before they reach their mid-fifties.. "
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 05:23 AM
Dec 2014
"According to a study by leading international universities last year, a quarter of all Russian men die before they reach their mid-fifties, and their love of alcohol – particularly vodka – is partly to blame."

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/international-business/putin-orders-vodka-price-cap-as-russias-economic-crisis-escalates/article22201640/
 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
46. yes and some here
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 05:40 AM
Dec 2014

think it is such a paradise, I guess the Putinistas conveniently forget about little things like this or the beating up and jailing of the LGBT community.

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
48. I do fail to see how they can support that idiot
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 09:24 AM
Dec 2014

against all democratic views like you mentioned. Almost like some are getting paid.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
19. Wow! I really didn't believe it possible for them to have so much trouble from oil prices, sanctions
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 12:48 AM
Dec 2014

and other measures. I've read that the sanctions Obama put on Russia are ineffective and that they have other trading partners.

What a strange thing, that in the USA the KochLIbetarianGOP sees a budget deficit and sends people home with no pay to hurt people and the government here whereas Putin is just saying they have to be at work.

Looks like he is saving the state itself, but still, some major hurt has been sent their way. You'd never notice it from some posts I've read here, but really I have not seen too many of those in recent days. Could be my IL...

Cha

(297,304 posts)
33. The Putin explainers were laughing and saying when the sanctions started that this was nothing
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 03:45 AM
Dec 2014

Obama was weak and Putin was strong.. whatever.


Bipartisan Report @Bipartisanism
Follow
President #Obama saved the American economy while sanctioning Russia into recession. Bravo.
#ObamasFault #Seattle
12:50 PM - 26 Dec 2014 65 Retweets 42 favorites

http://theobamadiary.com/2014/12/26/2014-japas-most-memorable-moments/

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
35. They certainly were. So many have underestimated the Prez. Interesting to hear that Putin is feeling
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 04:15 AM
Dec 2014
so much pressure. Another thread said he was laying off some workers and also cutting back on their space program.

In the end, he is friend to the oligarchs, and not the socialist champion he's made out to be, if he ever was. Most world leaders understand that their citizens want a stable, civil society. I don't know if it can be achieved with climate change.

I don't go into getting personal about Putin, nor do I - nor you - get happy at the hurt this is putting on the Russian people. But we have given our word to Europe for all these years. The longer view holds that we must do what we say we will.

Obama is keenly aware of our obligations. I'm hoping the issues will be resolved without anymore authoritarian, armed moves by Putin. I know that Russia has been hurting for many years, and it's a shame. It is a land of great resources and many talented people. What a waste all of this is.

Thanks for the link!

Cha

(297,304 posts)
45. Right.. I hate this for the Russian People.. it's Putin who has brought this on his own People..
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 05:27 AM
Dec 2014

but, always ready to blame anyone else instead of taking responsibility for his aggression.

newthinking

(3,982 posts)
22. This story is a lie. Normally government employees get **10** business days off during the holidays
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 01:39 AM
Dec 2014

in Russia. They are still taking New Years and Orthodox Christmas off. He was asking key people to come in during the holiday period.


" Russian President Vladimir Putin asked government officials not to take the traditional long vacation for New Year and Christmas, due to the country's economic situation. Cabinet ministers are particularly expected to be back at work earlier than usual"

The OP has been on a run of misrepresentation as well. Pay attention. There are lots of things going wrong in the world and one of the things that is making it harder to make the change we need is our media.

reorg

(3,317 posts)
25. No surprise here, this is what I expect from this poster
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 02:20 AM
Dec 2014

You beat me to it, but a simple web search reveals that - as opposed to, say, Americans -

1. Russians have the right to take first 12 days in the year off.

2. Putin did not ask all Russians or even all public employees, no, he only asked the "government ministers" not to take their usual Christmas holiday:

RUSSIAN President Vladimir Putin has scrapped New Year’s holidays for government ministers because of the unfolding economic crisis.

Russian company employees throughout the country are entitled to holiday from January 1-12 when Russians celebrate the New Year, the main holiday in Russia, as well as Orthodox Christmas on January 7.

http://www.news.com.au/world/president-vladimir-putin-cancels-holidays-for-ministers-as-russias-economic-crisis-continues/story-fndir2ev-1227166873624


http://www.hngn.com/articles/54679/20141226/russias-putin-cancels-12-day-holiday-vacation-for-cabinet-ministers.htm

http://rt.com/news/217715-putin-russia-holiday-cut/

All American news sources, though - whether misinformed or just lazy - report the "shortened" version in the OP.

newthinking

(3,982 posts)
26. Tabloid media - Emotional response is more important than facts. Dry facts unfortunately don't
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 02:24 AM
Dec 2014

emotionally attach people to stories.

Cha

(297,304 posts)
34. Hey, I think so, babylonsistah..
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 03:46 AM
Dec 2014

Bipartisan Report @Bipartisanism
Follow
President #Obama saved the American economy while sanctioning Russia into recession. Bravo.
#ObamasFault #Seattle
12:50 PM - 26 Dec 2014 65 Retweets 42 favorites

http://theobamadiary.com/2014/12/26/2014-japas-most-memorable-moments/

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
51. hes afraid people will leave and not come back. Crimea is allowed but MasterCard and Visa have suspe
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 10:17 PM
Dec 2014

MasterCard and Visa have suspended service there.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
54. Russians have way more vacation days than people in US.
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 12:08 PM
Dec 2014

So he asked them to cut down a little. They will still have more vacation days than here.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
57. I had read that in Russia
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 02:03 PM
Dec 2014

Christmas is not such a big deal and that New Year's Day is the big deal.

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