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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Thu Jan 15, 2015, 10:49 PM Jan 2015

Snowden Leak: Slow Cyber Defenses Letting Russia, China Hack US

Source: The Hill

By Julian Hattem - 01/15/15 05:16 PM EST

Foreign capitals and criminal networks are able to attack private companies and the government because cyber officials aren’t using encryption tools fast enough, according to a secret government report.

Revelation of the 2009 document, which was contained in leaks Edward Snowden gave to The Guardian, comes amid new pressure on encryption technologies, which scramble messages and documents so that they are unreadable to anyone without a specific digital key.

This week, British Prime Minister David Cameron is headed to Washington after lambasting private companies’ use of encryption. Cameron is reportedly planning on pressing President Obama to join his call to prevent Apple, Google and other tech companies from encrypting messages to lock out government officials and other prying eyes.

But according to the newly released document, the absence of those technologies has made it easier for countries like China and Russia as well as ill-intentioned hackers to break into people’s networks and do billions of dollars worth of damage.

Read more: http://thehill.com/policy/technology/229697-new-snowden-doc-slow-cyber-defenses-letting-russia-china-hack-us

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Snowden Leak: Slow Cyber Defenses Letting Russia, China Hack US (Original Post) Purveyor Jan 2015 OP
A five-year old document is a "revelation" of hacking in 2014-2015? Quite the stretch. George II Jan 2015 #1
I think it should be considered a "prospectus" elias49 Jan 2015 #3
Does it's age make it untrue? blackspade Jan 2015 #4
Yes. joshcryer Jan 2015 #11
If one assumes that technology hasn't advanced in the last five + year, then..... George II Jan 2015 #13
Just because technology advances does not mean new technology gets deployed. jeff47 Jan 2015 #17
Does not mean it gets deployed, but it did. George II Jan 2015 #19
We need cyber security libodem Jan 2015 #2
We need Rule of Law and Sanity and Democracy Demeter Jan 2015 #8
Very true libodem Jan 2015 #10
Let us not forget everything Snowden gave to the Chinese and the Russians. msanthrope Jan 2015 #5
Seriously. ucrdem Jan 2015 #6
they must have thrown him one hell of a 30th birthday party. nt msanthrope Jan 2015 #7
Please remind me. elias49 Jan 2015 #9
Unlikely he gave them much. joshcryer Jan 2015 #12
And Snowden is helping them Renew Deal Jan 2015 #14
Still waiting for an answer about How did Snowden "help" the Russians... elias49 Jan 2015 #15
How did this leak help the US? George II Jan 2015 #16
Meh. It woke some people up elias49 Jan 2015 #18

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
4. Does it's age make it untrue?
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 03:28 AM
Jan 2015

The point is that out networks are not secure from government or private penetration.
That is still the case...5 years after this document was written....

George II

(67,782 posts)
13. If one assumes that technology hasn't advanced in the last five + year, then.....
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 11:30 AM
Jan 2015

...."age" doesn't make it untrue.

But that's hardly the case.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
17. Just because technology advances does not mean new technology gets deployed.
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 12:28 PM
Jan 2015

Chip-and-pin systems have been the standard in Europe to prevent a breach of a retailer from leading to fraudulent credit card charges.

However, we still have mag stripes on our credit cards instead.

George II

(67,782 posts)
19. Does not mean it gets deployed, but it did.
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 01:45 PM
Jan 2015

By coincidence, Monday I received my new American Express card, it has a chip, as do Citibank, Visa, MasterCard, Bank of America, etc.

joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
12. Unlikely he gave them much.
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 10:31 AM
Jan 2015

If it turned out Heartbleed was known and disseminated by Snowden et al, they should all be prosecuted. But I hold think it unfortunately likely Heartbleed was just an unfortunate oversight by the NIST/NSA and it just so happened.

Let me reiterate, if Heartbleed was known by the NSA or Snowden had info about it, anyone and everyone involved committed treason. You may consider me a reasonable person msanthrope, but this is that point where I think, again if such an event happened, many people, tens if not dozens of people, would be committing treason against the USA.

Bring out evidence Heartbleed was known by the NSA/NIST, and people spend a lifetime in jail. Oh, and I say Snowden gets a reprieve / pardon.

If only it were so...

 

elias49

(4,259 posts)
15. Still waiting for an answer about How did Snowden "help" the Russians...
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 12:08 PM
Jan 2015

from this OP it sounds like the 'leak' helped the United States! To realize how poor their security was. WTH?
Be patient. You'll come to appreciate him.

George II

(67,782 posts)
16. How did this leak help the US?
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 12:13 PM
Jan 2015

First, if the 2009 document spurred additional system security, that occurred long before Snowden leaked the document.

Second, the the document was leaked only a month or several months ago, obviously that recent leak did nothing to improve security.

So, how did the leak of this 5 year old document help the US?

 

elias49

(4,259 posts)
18. Meh. It woke some people up
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 12:39 PM
Jan 2015

in and out of 'government'.
And I know, you have to laugh about the 'time-line' - like a Rube Goldberg thing.
"...if the 2009 document spurred additional system security,..."
Yeah, that damn 'if'.


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