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OhioChick

(23,218 posts)
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 02:34 PM Jan 2016

The photo of the last stand of doomed IT workers

Jan 29, 2016 8:28 AM PT



The IT employees at Northeast Utilities in Connecticut tried to save their jobs. The contacted local media, local politicians. They told anyone who would listen what was going on.

They were going to lose their jobs. It was a shock, not just for the IT workers, but for the state.

Northeast Utilities was a stable employer. Its customers were in the state. It couldn't move to China. It couldn't abandon the state. And so people thought.

But then Northeast Utilities merged with NStar, a Boston utility. (Now known as Eversource Energy).

Soon after the merger, the trouble started. The utilities leadership hired India-based IT outsourcing firms.

More: http://www.computerworld.com/article/3027611/it-industry/the-photo-of-the-last-stand-of-doomed-it-workers.html

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The photo of the last stand of doomed IT workers (Original Post) OhioChick Jan 2016 OP
This stuff really pisses me off. yourout Jan 2016 #1
The Last Great Act of Defiance Xipe Totec Jan 2016 #2
Our wonderful "D's" at work. LiberalArkie Jan 2016 #3
It doesn't just destroy the current IT workforce. MH1 Jan 2016 #7
Yep. LiberalArkie Jan 2016 #8
It also actually **costs more** . newthinking Jan 2016 #11
K&R abelenkpe Jan 2016 #4
This is where everybody has to stick together, cloudbase Jan 2016 #5
And many here want to elect Hillary for more of this dreamnightwind Jan 2016 #6
India and China are where a lot of our IT jobs have been going for decades. valerief Jan 2016 #9
From 2014: OhioChick Jan 2016 #10
training them is the worst Skittles Jan 2016 #12

LiberalArkie

(15,715 posts)
3. Our wonderful "D's" at work.
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 02:41 PM
Jan 2016
The utility employees left their jobs with a severance package that included this sentence: "Employee agrees that he/she shall make no statements to anyone, spoken or written, that would tend to disparage or discredit the Company or any of the Company's officers, directors, employees, or agents."

That clause has kept former Eversource employees from speaking out because of fears the utility will sue them if they say anything about their experience. The IT firms that Eversource uses, Infosys and Tata Consultancy Services, are major users of the H-1B visa.

But staying silent is difficult, especially after Sen. Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.) co-sponsored legislation in January 2015 that would hike the 65,000 H-1B base cap hike to as high as 195,000. The measure, known as the I-Squared Act, left some of the former utility IT employees incredulous. They were far from alone.

The 200,000-member engineering association, IEEE-USA, said the I-Squared bill would "help destroy" the IT workforce with a flood of lower paid foreign workers.



http://www.computerworld.com/article/3027640/it-outsourcing/laid-off-it-workers-muzzled-as-h-1b-debate-heats-up.html

MH1

(17,600 posts)
7. It doesn't just destroy the current IT workforce.
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 03:25 PM
Jan 2016

It removes rungs from the ladder of opportunity for young and minority people in this country.

Fewer skilled, good-paying jobs to step up to, means fewer rungs opened up at lower skill levels for entry level and reskilled workers.

Makes it harder for people who are struggling to find a better life.

It sucks.

newthinking

(3,982 posts)
11. It also actually **costs more** .
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 05:47 PM
Jan 2016

Outsourced IT has a basic conflict. Those IT workers from other countries wish to stay here (or if working remotely keep the position) and they need to keep those jobs tied to their contractor no matter what. This is one reason why outsourced development often turns into a nightmare and the costs skyrocket.

I have seen this again and again with outsourced development. The product ends up being extremely convoluted using very unusual approaches. Once development ends the costs are only beginning: as only those employees who created the application are able to update it and keep it running.

Management often has no clue and just assumes that this is just the cost of their grand application. Not to mention they have to protect it since they were in on the decision to use this method to create the application.

cloudbase

(5,513 posts)
5. This is where everybody has to stick together,
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 03:11 PM
Jan 2016

union or not, and tell the company that they won't be training their replacements and that they can shove their severance package up their asses.

dreamnightwind

(4,775 posts)
6. And many here want to elect Hillary for more of this
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 03:17 PM
Jan 2016

She supports this, and jokingly called herself the Senator for Punjab.

Great info on this at this link (scroll down):
http://keepamericaatwork.com/hillary-clinton-who-is-the-co-chair-of-the-senate-india-caucus-has-drawn-criticism-from-anti-offshoring-groups-for-her-vocal-support-of-indian-business-and-unwillingness-to-protect-american-jobs/


Hillary Clinton, who is the co-chair of the Senate India Caucus, has drawn criticism from anti-offshoring groups for her vocal support of Indian business and unwillingness to protect American jobs.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
9. India and China are where a lot of our IT jobs have been going for decades.
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 03:51 PM
Jan 2016


They were trained and brought the jobs back to India and China.
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