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yurbud

(39,405 posts)
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 01:39 PM Mar 2016

Exposing the Libyan Agenda: a Closer Look at Hillary’s Emails

Last edited Tue Mar 22, 2016, 03:20 PM - Edit history (1)

I don't give a rat's ass where Hillary kept her emails.

The infinitely more important question is what they reveal about our foreign policy, so we can see how much we have been lied to and whether we want to approve of the real motives and goals for what we are doing to other countries.

Has any war in history been for purely or even primarily humanitarian reasons? Generally, the aggressor wants land, resources, cheap labor, or access to markets. Sidney Blumenthal's emails to Hillary about Libya certainly fit that model.

Blumenthal also mentions a currency issue that is usually treated as a far out conspiracy theory, which it no longer seems to be.

NOTE: I've gone over the four paragraph limit, but most of it is quotes from the emails. Only three paragraphs are from the author of the article about the emails.

Of the 3,000 emails released from Hillary Clinton’s private email server in late December 2015, about a third were from her close confidante Sidney Blumenthal, the attorney who defended her husband in the Monica Lewinsky case. One of these emails, dated April 2, 2011, reads in part:

Qaddafi’s government holds 143 tons of gold, and a similar amount in silver . . . . This gold was accumulated prior to the current rebellion and was intended to be used to establish a pan-African currency based on the Libyan golden Dinar. This plan was designed to provide the Francophone African Countries with an alternative to the French franc (CFA).


In a “source comment,” the original declassified email adds:

According to knowledgeable individuals this quantity of gold and silver is valued at more than $7 billion. French intelligence officers discovered this plan shortly after the current rebellion began, and this was one of the factors that influenced President Nicolas Sarkozy’s decision to commit France to the attack on Libya. According to these individuals Sarkozy’s plans are driven by the following issues:

1 A desire to gain a greater share of Libya oil production,

2 Increase French influence in North Africa,

3 Improve his internal political situation in France,

4 Provide the French military with an opportunity to reassert its position in the world,

5 Address the concern of his advisors over Qaddafi’s long term plans to supplant France as the dominant power in Francophone Africa


Conspicuously absent is any mention of humanitarian concerns. The objectives are money, power and oil.


http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/03/14/exposing-the-libyan-agenda-a-closer-look-at-hillarys-emails/
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leveymg

(36,418 posts)
1. Motives aside (Libyan based oil trade currency is a prime motive) what happened to all that loot?
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 01:52 PM
Mar 2016

Recall Sadam also threatened a non-dollar based oil trading exchange?

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
2. A few months back i saw a bunch of stuff in Guardian about Tony Blair, Gaddafi and torture..
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 02:16 PM
Mar 2016

Might be worth Googling for- maybe related?

I don't know if (William?) Blum's encyclopedia of US foreign interventions "Killing Hope" (one of the most exhaustively researched books out there) would have anything on it but it might be worth looking at that also.

Some of "Killing Hope" is really horrible stuff. One wonders how they managed to keep it out of the media, the US press is much more censored than we realize.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
3. sounds like a good read. Stephen Kinzer's OVERTHROW covered some of that ground.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 01:56 PM
Mar 2016

as did Smedley Butler in WAR IS A RACKET.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
4. that always made a certain kind of sense to me as a reason, but I didn't see much evidence
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 01:57 PM
Mar 2016

to confirm it.

But this is pretty direct.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
5. A bunch of people saw a golden opportunity in early 2011, and they took it. Literally.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 02:05 PM
Mar 2016

Please see my post and the other thread on this: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1560593

Plain old looting and financial piracy. How unAmerican. Glad we didn't have anything to do with this.

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