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Pryderi

(6,772 posts)
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:38 AM Apr 2016

Enough with the Hillary cult: Her admirers ignore reality, dream of worshipping a queen

Clinton voters overlook money lust, shadowy surrogates, sociopathic policy shifts, horrific overseas record. Why?
CAMILLE PAGLIA

I’m starting to wonder, given the increasing dysfunction of our democratic institutions, if the Hillary cult isn’t perhaps registering an atavistic longing for monarchy. Or perhaps it’s just a neo-pagan reversion to idolatry, as can be felt in the Little Italy street festival scene of The Godfather, Part II, where devout pedestrians pin money to the statue of San Rocco as it is carried by in procession. There was a strange analogy to that last week, when Sanders supporters satirically showered Hillary’s motorcade with dollar bills as she arrived at George Clooney’s luxe fund-raiser in Los Angeles.

The gushy indulgence around Hillary in the Manhattan media was typified by Vanessa Friedman’s New York Times piece, “Hillary Clinton’s Message in a Jacket,” after last week’s debate. Evidently oblivious to how she was undermining the rote sexism plank in the Clinton campaign platform, Friedman praised Hillary for “playing the clothing card” against Sanders: Hillary’s long white jacket made her look like “New York’s white knight,” riding to the rescue.


http://www.salon.com/2016/04/21/enough_with_the_hillary_cult_her_admirers_ignore_reality_dream_of_worshipping_a_queen/
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Enough with the Hillary cult: Her admirers ignore reality, dream of worshipping a queen (Original Post) Pryderi Apr 2016 OP
No but we do dream rjsquirrel Apr 2016 #1
Like Camille Paglia? n/t Pryderi Apr 2016 #2
Yes we all know Duckhunter935 Apr 2016 #3
It's just a fact rjsquirrel Apr 2016 #4
Nice insult at the the end Duckhunter935 Apr 2016 #6
Compliment? Lol. rjsquirrel Apr 2016 #10
Yes, a very strong lady Duckhunter935 Apr 2016 #11
Well don't call me "bro" Duckhunter935 Apr 2016 #12
Hillary bots do not want to discuss issues. cyclezealot Apr 2016 #20
This is beyond silly and move into the sad category liberal N proud Apr 2016 #5
Face it. Both candidates have supporters that could be characterized as "cultish". Arkansas Granny Apr 2016 #7
Liberal more than proved my point. cyclezealot Apr 2016 #22
Ugh..... vi5 Apr 2016 #8
And she is winning! Go Hills! leftofcool Apr 2016 #9
It's a long time from New Haven ... GeorgeGist Apr 2016 #13
a lot of baby boomers cyclezealot Apr 2016 #23
Bernie Sanders = loser. stopbush Apr 2016 #14
u get over it cyclezealot Apr 2016 #24
She's definitely paid enough to get the nomination! aurelius2112 Apr 2016 #25
Camille Paglia? Really? Paladin Apr 2016 #15
I agee with the point, but Camille Paglia is a pretty dismal source to back it up with ... marble falls Apr 2016 #16
Is this the same Camille Paglia who says struggle4progress Apr 2016 #17
Candor? More like bullshit alarimer Apr 2016 #19
I'm no fan of Hillary but this is too much. alarimer Apr 2016 #18
Camille sound a little salty... Blue_Tires Apr 2016 #21
Good old camille paglia. Trying to find relevance again. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #26
Paglia___ MFM008 Apr 2016 #27
always good to hear from Repubs "for" Bernie... good comic relief..ROFL!!!!! Bill USA Apr 2016 #28
goiter? insightdeluxe Apr 2016 #29
K&R vkkv Apr 2016 #30
 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
3. Yes we all know
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:43 AM
Apr 2016

Any disagreement with her and her positions is sexist. So sad. I always thought she was a strong lady I just disagree with.

 

rjsquirrel

(4,762 posts)
4. It's just a fact
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:44 AM
Apr 2016

so I'm glad you know it.

All this queen/coronation/whore talk is crystal clear. Bro.

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
6. Nice insult at the the end
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:46 AM
Apr 2016

You have made my point for me. Can't even post a compliment without being insulted by her supporters here.

 

rjsquirrel

(4,762 posts)
10. Compliment? Lol.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 09:15 AM
Apr 2016

The title of this tread and the salon article is pure D sexist misogynist hate.

That's my point. If you refer to her as "the Queen" you're a sexist. Period. She's a candidate running for elective office.

cyclezealot

(4,802 posts)
20. Hillary bots do not want to discuss issues.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 02:28 PM
Apr 2016

She has betrayed us way too often and they think policy wonks will forget.
I mention Haiti, Honduras, the bankruptcy bill, Iraq war votes , the TPP being the gold standard of trade deals. .
Yes, due to the Supreme court, we will vote for Hillary but with no enthusiasm.. Notice how established Dem's do not want to talk of the record and instead call for a kumbayah moment.

Issues will not go away..
Bernie potentially defending Hillary will have little influence over Bernie or bust people. They are policy wonks and can't be swayed by emotion.
Am I to forget my angry calls to Sen Clinton when she was sucked in by Bush's lies and most Democrats knew better including much of the Senate leadership at the time. I say she did it for political expediency not wanting to be labeled unpatriotic. Even some conservatives such as Sen. Bob Graham knew better. No I will not forgive her even as I betray my anger over her vote for the Iraq war.

The supreme Irony, Trump in his twisted brain , so unfamiliar with issues; will chastise Hillary for her Iraq vote and the TPP deal. And it will stick.. Just offering a strategy to sway Bernie voters.. Bernie has no control over his policy wonks.. I suggest Hillary take a lie detector test.

DU. Don't censor this suggestion , it is made in a spirit of how to get a fix over the democratic wing of the Democratic party. They are beyond the control of Bernie. You might silence Bernie , but the left such as Chris Hayes, Robert Scheer, Noam Chomsky ; along with Donald Trump - won't let them forget. ? You tell us , why did Dick Cheney and the Neo -cons' Weekly Standard editorialize. Hillary is better then Trump.?

liberal N proud

(60,335 posts)
5. This is beyond silly and move into the sad category
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:45 AM
Apr 2016

Sad that someone Hates another so much that they would peddle this garbage.

Arkansas Granny

(31,518 posts)
7. Face it. Both candidates have supporters that could be characterized as "cultish".
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:50 AM
Apr 2016

Remember the reaction to the birdie? I don't judge Bernie because some of his supporters have tried to elevate him to sainthood.

cyclezealot

(4,802 posts)
22. Liberal more than proved my point.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 04:09 PM
Apr 2016

He/she refused to rebut my issues. These are solid issues of which you choose to ignore..Over throwing elected governments that are fighting feudalistic governments , or burdening Americans with more stringent bankruptcy laws is not progressive. Once wrong, you are foolish not to be suspicious.

You might ignore them but Donald Trump or true liberals ,those who are not party clones won't..
I said, i'd vote for Hillary with little enthusiasm. what more do you want , blood.

It is going to be interesting to watch Donald Trump chastise Hillary for her war vote. That won't sway me, but I bet with a lot of millennial it will. This is not my challenge to the Dem's, but their own challenge to overcome their past.

I suggest you teach Hillary how to cover her tracks among the millennial and blue collars voters. You issues are with them, not me. Because The Donald is so unscrupulous, he'll go to any lengths to exploit Hilary's bubble.

Dick Cheney heaps praise on Hillary Clinton
"I have a sense that she's one of the more competent members of the current administration and it would be interesting to speculate about how she might perform were she to be president," he said.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/us-politics/8741148/Dick-Cheney-heaps-praise-on-Hillary-Clinton.html

 

vi5

(13,305 posts)
8. Ugh.....
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:52 AM
Apr 2016

I don't like HRC at all. Don't trust her one bit and it's going to be incredibly painful for me to vote for her in November. But if anyone can make me want to vigorously support and defend her just out of spite, it's Camille Paglia. I used to love her writing on gender and pop culture before she got all political and reflexively "I'm a Democrat BUT....." during the Clinton years. It's been all downhill since then for her.

cyclezealot

(4,802 posts)
23. a lot of baby boomers
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 04:13 PM
Apr 2016

turned out not to be what was expected of them.. As we once said, never trust anyone over 30

cyclezealot

(4,802 posts)
24. u get over it
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 04:19 PM
Apr 2016

Or perhaps at some future date you will need to...?
You do not represent the American people. Let us all hope your choice won't be Pyrrhic victory.. Her negatives are sky high. Some of it is because of the Goober's smears but not all...

Americans would rather have Tyrion as President over Clinton, Trump
Peter Dinklage's character is head-to-head with Bernie Sanders in new poll



http://www.ew.com/article/2016/04/20/game-thrones-tyrion-hillary-clinton-donald-trump

 

aurelius2112

(60 posts)
25. She's definitely paid enough to get the nomination!
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 04:35 PM
Apr 2016

Behind closed doors she is a one-percenter cheerleader.
Get over it and stop pretending it isn't in front of your face.

Dem nominee - yes.
Champion for the people - hell no

Elected by the majority of the people - no
Elected by superdelegates - hell yes

So sad to see another election being steered by the wealthy again to the person who will do their bidding.
Sellout comes to mind when I think of her.......... so sad

Wonder what Hillary thinks of Citizens United now? (hint........Lovin' It!)

Paladin

(28,264 posts)
15. Camille Paglia? Really?
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 11:56 AM
Apr 2016

Camille Paglia's garbage, in the "Good Reads" forum? Genuinely unfortunate. The company you keep, Sanders supporters, the company you keep.

"....a neo-pagan reversion to idolatry...." Ba-da-BING! If you've read one of Paglia's miserable columns, you've read them all......

marble falls

(57,101 posts)
16. I agee with the point, but Camille Paglia is a pretty dismal source to back it up with ...
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 12:26 PM
Apr 2016

knowing she and I hold this single notion in common makes me want to shower and burn my my clothes.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
21. Camille sound a little salty...
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 03:11 PM
Apr 2016

Since she likes her Godfather analogies, I'll just say that Paglia will eventually kiss the ring...

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