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JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 08:48 PM Feb 2017

Steve Bannon's obsession with one book should worry every single American

The name of the book is "The Fourth Turning: What Cycles of History Tell Us About America's Next Rendezvous with Destiny."
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This fact should concern every American.

In the book, authors William Strauss and Neil Howe theorize that the history of a people moves in 80-to-100 year cycles called "saecula." The idea goes back to the ancient Greeks, who believed that at a given saeculum's end, there would come "ekpyrosis," a cataclysmic event that destroys the old order and brings in a new one in a trial of fire.

This era of change is known as the Fourth Turning, and Bannon, like Strauss and Howe, believes we are in the midst of one right now.

According to the book, the last two Fourth Turnings that America experienced were the Civil War and the Reconstruction, and then the Great Depression and World War II. Before that, it was the Revolutionary War.

All these were marked by periods of dread and decay in which the American people were forced to unite to rebuild a new future, but only after a massive conflict in which many lives were lost. It all starts with a catalyst event, then there's a period of regeneracy, after that there is a defining climax in which a war for the old order is fought, and then finally there is a resolution in which a new world order is stabilized.

This is where Bannon's obsession with this book should cause concern. He believes that, for the new world order to rise, there must be a massive reckoning. That we will soon reach our climax conflict. In the White House, he has shown that he is willing to advise Trump to enact policies that will disrupt our current order to bring about what he perceives as a necessary new one. He encourages breaking down political and economic alliances and turning away from traditional American principles to cause chaos.

In that way, Bannon seems to be trying to bring about the Fourth Turning.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/steve-bannons-obsession-one-book-202400225.html

Cross-posting from GD.

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Steve Bannon's obsession with one book should worry every single American (Original Post) JonLP24 Feb 2017 OP
What he's advocating isn't a new world order, but an old one. JHan Feb 2017 #1
I think most Americans have no idea how much we would all hate chaos and enough Feb 2017 #2
Sounds like it shares some DNA with PNAC Girard442 Feb 2017 #3
Combine his crazy world view with the religious fanatics doing everything procon Feb 2017 #4
Philosophy for Dummies Loge23 Feb 2017 #5

JHan

(10,173 posts)
1. What he's advocating isn't a new world order, but an old one.
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 08:49 PM
Feb 2017

He wants to turn back the hands of time - that's what concerns me.

enough

(13,262 posts)
2. I think most Americans have no idea how much we would all hate chaos and
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 08:55 PM
Feb 2017

the destruction of the "system." It's such an appealing idea when you can see and understand how bad things are currently. But the idea that things will get better by passing through a period of extreme chaos is a narcotic dream.



procon

(15,805 posts)
4. Combine his crazy world view with the religious fanatics doing everything
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 09:17 PM
Feb 2017

they can to bring about their rapture fantasy, and the climate deniers busily destroying the earth... OMG, are the nutters winning in their combined efforts to cause a dystopian apocalypse?

Loge23

(3,922 posts)
5. Philosophy for Dummies
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 09:18 PM
Feb 2017

This is an idiot theory that tries to fit the situation into the crackpot idea.
For a guy who was a Navy Officer, Harvard education, this Bannon seems to be quite the fool - a powerful fool, but a fool just the same.
He'll play a bigger fool for as long as he can before he too is exposed as the traitorous evil shit that he is.

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