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saidsimplesimon

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Thu Sep 21, 2017, 08:13 AM Sep 2017

With Germany's Election Around The Corner, What's Putin's Play?

The article continues from the excerpt below with the claim that Germans rely on their news media, not facebook, for real news.


http://www.npr.org/2017/09/21/551023135/why-arent-the-russians-doing-more-in-germanys-election

With Germany's Election Around The Corner, What's Putin's Play?
September 21, 2017 5:00 AM ET
MILES PARKS
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"No one in Germany, if you ask the question, 'do you think that Russia is trying to intervene with the German election in a certain way' would say no," said Fricke, who also served in the legislature from 2002-13. "The only question is how are they going to do it."
Strangely, to the surprise of democracy-watchers everywhere, the answer has been: lightly.
There's evidence that Russian intelligence officers have been up to some of their now-familiar tricks in Germany — including cyberattacks, spreading disinformation and other strategies — but nothing has happened on the scale of other elections elsewhere, German politicians and other experts say.

"We have problems with wrong information and right-wing propaganda, but all of them are coming from inside the country," said Alexander Sängerlaub, who leads a program called Measuring Fake News at the think tank Stiftung Neue Verantwortung in Berlin.
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With Germany's Election Around The Corner, What's Putin's Play? (Original Post) saidsimplesimon Sep 2017 OP
That's because none of Russia's favored parties has a credible chance of winning. DetlefK Sep 2017 #1

DetlefK

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1. That's because none of Russia's favored parties has a credible chance of winning.
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 10:20 AM
Sep 2017

Russia wants a multi-polar world, without alliances, where the big guys can bully the small guys. That's why they support Brexit and Calexit and Catalonia's secession from Spain andsoforth. That's why they hype any sign of discontent in Europe.

Russia does NOT want a world where the small guys work together to stand up against the big guys.

(Why does Russia want such an alliance-less world? Because pretty much nobody wants to be in an alliance dominated by Russia. For example, Russia wants to create an international economic zone similar to the Euro, except there are no takers willing to join.)



Merkel from the conservatives? Wants a stronger Europe.
Schultz from the social-democrats? Very, very much wants a stronger Europe.
The Greens? More Europe for more civil-rights, peace and environmentalism.
The Left? More Europe for more civil-rights and peace.
The Free Democrats? More Europe for more civil-rights and peace.
The AfD? Less Europe for less immigrants and more nationalism.

The only party that is to Russia's liking is the AfD. And they are political pariahs (because no other party wants to work with them), polling at 10%-15%.

Even if Russia were to take the risk of manipulating the election, the pay-off would be minuscule.

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