Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

appalachiablue

(41,131 posts)
Sun Sep 2, 2018, 09:11 PM Sep 2018

COVER UP?! Schumer; Sen. Klobuchar, Kavanaugh Process 'Not Normal,' More

"Dem. Senator Says Kavanaugh’s Confirmation Process Is ‘Not Normal.’ Sen. Amy Klobuchar isn’t happy about Trump’s decision to block access to portions of the Supreme Court nominee’s record." By Igor Bobic, Huff Post, Sept. 2, 2018.

Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.) criticized Republicans on Sunday for the unprecedented way they are conducting the confirmation process for Brett Kavanaugh, nominee to the Supreme Court. Klobuchar complained about decisions that have blocked access to or shielded use of documents concerning the several years Kavanaugh spent as a White House aide in President George W. Bush’s administration.

Klobuchar, a member of Senate Judiciary Committee that begins Kavanaugh’s confirmation hearings on Tuesday..said, “It’s not normal because we are not able to see 100,000 documents because the administration has said we can’t see them, exerting their executive power,” on NBC’s “Meet the Press.”

She aired similar concerns about “148,000 documents that I’ve seen that you cannot see because they will not allow us to make them public so I can’t even tell you about them right now on this show”..

Klobuchar argued that the documents stemming from Kavanaugh’s time in the Bush White House could “strongly bolster the arguments that I could make” on whether the appellate court judge is qualified to serve on the Supreme Court..

In Kavanaugh’s case, Republicans are circumventing the normal vetting process for Supreme Court nominees in order to have him confirmed by Oct. 1, the start of the court’s new term.

*Rather than wait on the National Archives to produce the millions of documents relating to Kavanaugh’s record, Republicans have relied on a group of lawyers for Bush to review documents ― a parallel and partisan effort that a National Archives official has described as “something that has never happened before.”

Democrats want to know whether Kavanaugh, as a former staff secretary to Bush, authored or edited any documents concerning that administration’s torture and warrantless wiretapping programs.

Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) blasted the Trump administration’s decision..as a “Friday night document massacre.” Trump’s decision “to step in at the last moment and hide 100,000 pages of Judge Kavanaugh’s records from the American public is not only unprecedented in the history of Supreme Court nominations, it has all the makings of a cover-up,” Schumer said in a statement on Saturday.

He said Senate Republicans and Trump “are colluding to keep... Kavanaugh’s records secret..trying to hide their actions from the American people by doing it on the Friday night of a holiday weekend. What are they trying so desperately to hide?”...

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/brett-kavanaugh-documents_us_5b8c0a28e4b0cf7b00373cf9

26 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
COVER UP?! Schumer; Sen. Klobuchar, Kavanaugh Process 'Not Normal,' More (Original Post) appalachiablue Sep 2018 OP
Can Kavanaugh Be Impeached Down The Road? Me. Sep 2018 #1
SC Justices can be impeached. Samuel Chase of Md., assoc. appalachiablue Sep 2018 #2
Thank You Me. Sep 2018 #5
For sure, I learned from this too. appalachiablue Sep 2018 #6
All of the above, Plus this critical part from today's Wash. Post: appalachiablue Sep 2018 #12
Problem is not if they can be impeached rather the issue is getting enough votes to do it and cstanleytech Sep 2018 #11
Correct, they've sewn up all the openings- for now. appalachiablue Sep 2018 #13
Product of The Federalist Society. The very successful, ultra conservative appalachiablue Sep 2018 #17
And the attorney Burke (vetting the documents) currently represents Bannon, McGahn, Priebus ... Grasswire2 Sep 2018 #3
Outrage of the highest form. Underhanded & more. Nixonesque +100 appalachiablue Sep 2018 #14
ask it loud! Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2018 #4
Amen. Like railroading- why? appalachiablue Sep 2018 #7
talking heads of tv? Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2018 #8
I didn't follow any TV today, just saw articles from am shows... appalachiablue Sep 2018 #15
Don't participate. That's what they do. babylonsister Sep 2018 #9
Absolutely rusty quoin Sep 2018 #10
Senator Klobachar - and Schumer and Harris - know even better than we do that he'should not "normal" Rhiannon12866 Sep 2018 #16
Absolutely, we must oppose the travesty, and GOTV! appalachiablue Sep 2018 #19
I know that there are procedures to be followed and all Rhiannon12866 Sep 2018 #21
All on point. And with tensions and frustrations at high levels appalachiablue Sep 2018 #22
Well, we heard that Putin's goal was to destabilize both Europe and the U.S. Rhiannon12866 Sep 2018 #23
Bork him! joanbarnes Sep 2018 #18
There you go! Perfect :) appalachiablue Sep 2018 #20
I hope someone finds out some dirt on Ghastly and puts him in his place kimbutgar Sep 2018 #24
Senator Corn Nuts is a typical Republican asshole Zorro Sep 2018 #25
Will it be the norm going forward ? lunasun Sep 2018 #26

appalachiablue

(41,131 posts)
2. SC Justices can be impeached. Samuel Chase of Md., assoc.
Sun Sep 2, 2018, 09:46 PM
Sep 2018

justice who served on the SC in the 1790s was impeached in 1804 for allowing his partisan views to impact decisions. But he was acquitted by the Senate and remained on the court. ~ In these times, the Constitution may be amended before long! Also it would be disappointing if something happened to any evidence. Who knows, best if they could have stopped the process. ~ (Wiki) "According to federal statute, the Court normally consists of the Chief Justice of the United States and eight associate justices who are nominated by the President and confirmed by the Senate. Once appointed, justices have lifetime tenure unless they resign, retire, or are removed after impeachment.[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supreme_Court_of_the_United_States



US Senate Website, Senate Prepares For Impeachment- Samuel Chase

On November 30, 1804, for the third time in its brief history, the Senate began preparations for an impeachment trial. In 1798 and 1799, the Senate had tried a senator previously expelled on grounds of treason. Because that senator no longer served, the Senate dismissed the case citing lack of jurisdiction. The second impeachment trial, in 1804, removed a federal judge for reasons of drunkenness and insanity. More than the first two proceedings, however, this third trial challenged the Senate to explore the meaning of impeachable crimes. Samuel Chase had served on the Supreme Court since 1796. A staunch Federalist with a volcanic personality, Chase showed no willingness to tone down his bitter partisan rhetoric after Jeffersonian Republicans gained control of Congress in 1801. Rep. John Randolph of Virginia, at the urging of President Thomas Jefferson, orchestrated impeachment proceedings against Chase, declaring he would wipe the floor with the obnoxious justice.
The House voted to impeach Chase on March 12, 1804, accusing Chase of refusing to dismiss biased jurors and of excluding or limiting defense witnesses in 2 politically sensitive cases..https://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/minute/Senate_Tries_Justice.htm

appalachiablue

(41,131 posts)
12. All of the above, Plus this critical part from today's Wash. Post:
Sun Sep 2, 2018, 11:48 PM
Sep 2018

"Such as this one by Sen. Kamala D. Harris, the Democrat from California who will be among those on the Senate Judiciary Committee questioning Kavanaugh: >“The president is an unindicted co-conspirator in federal crimes and he has nominated someone to the Supreme Court who believes a sitting president should never be indicted.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/issues-for-brett-kavanaugh-the-president-who-chose-him-and-the-supreme-court-he-would-change/ar-BBMKuVW https://www.democraticunderground.com/1016214804

Partisan lawyers sorting through K.'s documents as mentioned in this Huff Post article is very telling and tainted-- esp. when the National Archives staff stated how they've never seen this before. Having worked there I can attest to the experience and professionalism of many NARA staff, they know their jobs and do it well. Much of their work relates to high level government materials and procedure.

So the irregular handling of documents concerns me like the rest of Operation P-U-S-H.

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
11. Problem is not if they can be impeached rather the issue is getting enough votes to do it and
Sun Sep 2, 2018, 11:35 PM
Sep 2018

if the Repugnants are going to do this to shoehorn him in I do not see many if any of them agreeing to impeach him.

appalachiablue

(41,131 posts)
17. Product of The Federalist Society. The very successful, ultra conservative
Mon Sep 3, 2018, 12:06 AM
Sep 2018

national organization and legal pipeline of law students, law interns, lawyers and judges that has taken over the nation. Est. 1982, funded by megadonors, the Libertarian Kochs, Mercers, more.

Speaking at the society's 25th anniversary, Scalia said, "We thought we were just planting a wildflower among the weeds of academic liberalism, and it turned out to be an oak."

"How Conservatives Built A Powerful Judicial Pipeline," The Week, Aug. 2018.
https://theweek.com/articles/791928/how-conservatives-built-powerful-judicial-pipeline

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1016214686

Grasswire2

(13,569 posts)
3. And the attorney Burke (vetting the documents) currently represents Bannon, McGahn, Priebus ...
Sun Sep 2, 2018, 09:55 PM
Sep 2018

....in Mueller investigation.

It is OUTRAGEOUS. Monumental conflict of interest. Aside from the fact that he worked as Kavanaugh's deputy!!

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,342 posts)
8. talking heads of tv?
Sun Sep 2, 2018, 10:37 PM
Sep 2018

Are any of the talking heads on tv making noises about this issue? Once upon a time, they would all be drooling over even a hint of a coverup. This is not a hint, this is a damned elephant herd sized coverup.

Where are the clouds and shadows resulting from the missing documents? Surely there was an email and a female involved somewhere along the line.

appalachiablue

(41,131 posts)
15. I didn't follow any TV today, just saw articles from am shows...
Sun Sep 2, 2018, 11:55 PM
Sep 2018

Why aren't they on this yet? Maybe manana...jeeze.

Rhiannon12866

(205,320 posts)
16. Senator Klobachar - and Schumer and Harris - know even better than we do that he'should not "normal"
Sun Sep 2, 2018, 11:57 PM
Sep 2018

He thinks he can make up or change any "rules" that he wants. It's deplorable, but he's already done so much that is shockingly inappropriate, this can't come as a surprise. That's why Congress and the American people need to stand up. The people have turned out like never before, Congress needs to catch up! And GOTV!

appalachiablue

(41,131 posts)
19. Absolutely, we must oppose the travesty, and GOTV!
Mon Sep 3, 2018, 12:14 AM
Sep 2018

Those senators are experienced and there's substance to what they've stated. They know the procedures and how this process is aberrant. Fishy, an understatement.

Rhiannon12866

(205,320 posts)
21. I know that there are procedures to be followed and all
Mon Sep 3, 2018, 12:26 AM
Sep 2018

But I wish that each and every one of them world be a lot more outspoken and proactive then they are! They can't be unaware of the discontent in this country right now, we need some reassurance that there's a light at the end of this dark tunnel!

appalachiablue

(41,131 posts)
22. All on point. And with tensions and frustrations at high levels
Mon Sep 3, 2018, 12:48 AM
Sep 2018

for some time, officials could be more dynamic and forceful, to put it mildly. We're in dangerous and challenging times. Rise to the occasion, before it's too late.. Same for our news media, but the giant conglomerates have different agendas.

Never thought I'd say this, but if younger I'd consider a move to Canada asap, and I love America, truly.
Can't believe what's going on in Europe now as well...

Rhiannon12866

(205,320 posts)
23. Well, we heard that Putin's goal was to destabilize both Europe and the U.S.
Mon Sep 3, 2018, 01:16 AM
Sep 2018

I think he started there first. And it's now undisputed fact that the Russians interfered in our election and that it went much deeper than that - and is still going on! With that information, I'd expect to see more of a "hair on fire" reaction from our representatives, we elected them to speak for us!

As for our Canadian neighbors, they are our closest ally. That's another reason for outrage, we seem to be turning our back on our allies - but Canada is also our closest neighbor and friend, so that's not just harmful, but senseless!

appalachiablue

(41,131 posts)
20. There you go! Perfect :)
Mon Sep 3, 2018, 12:15 AM
Sep 2018
Just remembered years back at a restaurant there was some rustling, whispering at our table and around. Cuz Borky was seated nearby..

Zorro

(15,740 posts)
25. Senator Corn Nuts is a typical Republican asshole
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 12:05 PM
Sep 2018

Still upset about Bork getting well-deservedly Borked.

Latest Discussions»Issue Forums»Editorials & Other Articles»COVER UP?! Schumer; Sen. ...