Fri Nov 2, 2018, 01:05 PM
Bfd (1,406 posts)
North Dakota's Racist Voter ID Law Is Already Backfiring- article from The Daily Beast
https://www.thedailybeast.com/north-dakotas-racist-voter-id-law-is-already-backfiring
DEMOCRACY AT WORK!’ North Dakota’s Racist Voter ID Law Is Already Backfiring Jay Michaelson 11.01.18 ![]() In response, the state’s Republican-dominated legislature passed a new law that seems specifically intended to make it harder for Native Americans to vote. In addition to a strict ID requirement, the law requires all voters to provide proof of a residential street address—something many Natives who live on reservations simply do not have. Large numbers of Native Americans use post office boxes to receive mail and live on unmarked and unsigned streets. Many others live with various family members. Still others have no idea that their streets even have names. In total, about 5,000 Native Americans lack the required voter ID—larger than the electoral margin in 2016. Needless to say, there were no documented instances of voter fraud involving people without street addresses. “They didn’t need an address when they took our children and rounded them up into boarding schools,” Chase Iron Eyes, a Native American lawyer who lost a congressional bid in 2016, told NBC News. “And they didn’t need an address when they conscripted us to fight in the military and make a worthy and honorable sacrifice. But now they need our address when we want to exercise our right to vote.” SNIP Native Americans have a plan to defeat it at the polls. First, a coalition of groups led by the Lakota People’s Law Project and the national Native American group Four Directions have been furiously helping people get proper IDs free of charge. According to the Associated Press, they’ve helped more than 2,000 people get them. The New York Times reported that one band of Chippewa printed so many IDs that the machine overheated and started melting the cards. “We’re at our best in crisis,” Phyllis Young, an organizer on the Standing Rock Sioux Reservation—made famous in 2016 when thousands of young people took up the cause to stop a pipeline from being built near tribal lands—told the AP. Young said the GOP’s overt voter suppression "is only making us more aware of our rights, more energized, and more likely to vote this November." SNIP Tribes participating in the effort include the Turtle Mountain Band of Chippewa, Spirit Lake Nation, and the Standing Rock Sioux Tribe. Second, Four Directions is helping tribes create residential addresses where none have existed before. Using satellite imagery, voters can point to the locations of their homes on a map and are assigned unique address identifiers—even on the spot. On Election Day, tribal officials will be stationed at every polling site in every reservation in the state, with tribal letterhead in hand, ready to assign addresses. “This is democracy at work!” Four Directions tweeted on Oct. 30. “Voter engagement is high. We have DOUBLED Absentee votes at Standing Rock as of 3:47 pm today.” Celebrities including Mark Ruffalo and Dave Matthews have also gotten involved, with the Stand-N-Vote initiative, which hopes to capitalize on resentment against the voting restrictions, and the national awareness of the Standing Rock Sioux, to enable more Native Americans to vote. “This is democracy at work!” ![]() ![]()
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Bfd | Nov 2018 | OP |
SWBTATTReg | Nov 2018 | #1 | |
Bfd | Nov 2018 | #4 | |
lunatica | Nov 2018 | #65 | |
Onward AND Upward | Nov 2018 | #71 | |
renate | Nov 2018 | #2 | |
Bfd | Nov 2018 | #7 | |
Doitnow | Nov 2018 | #68 | |
Bfd | Nov 2018 | #69 | |
dalton99a | Nov 2018 | #8 | |
calimary | Nov 2018 | #59 | |
brush | Nov 2018 | #3 | |
Bfd | Nov 2018 | #5 | |
sheshe2 | Nov 2018 | #6 | |
Me. | Nov 2018 | #10 | |
sheshe2 | Nov 2018 | #11 | |
Me. | Nov 2018 | #21 | |
Bfd | Nov 2018 | #14 | |
sheshe2 | Nov 2018 | #16 | |
Me. | Nov 2018 | #22 | |
Me. | Nov 2018 | #9 | |
sarge43 | Nov 2018 | #12 | |
mountain grammy | Nov 2018 | #13 | |
gademocrat7 | Nov 2018 | #15 | |
ginnyinWI | Nov 2018 | #17 | |
Bfd | Nov 2018 | #18 | |
catbyte | Nov 2018 | #19 | |
Judi Lynn | Nov 2018 | #55 | |
NastyRiffraff | Nov 2018 | #20 | |
burrowowl | Nov 2018 | #23 | |
lunatica | Nov 2018 | #24 | |
Cha | Nov 2018 | #29 | |
Bfd | Nov 2018 | #36 | |
Qutzupalotl | Nov 2018 | #38 | |
lunatica | Nov 2018 | #39 | |
Qutzupalotl | Nov 2018 | #40 | |
lunatica | Nov 2018 | #44 | |
Qutzupalotl | Nov 2018 | #47 | |
Bfd | Nov 2018 | #41 | |
lunatica | Nov 2018 | #43 | |
klook | Nov 2018 | #42 | |
scarletwoman | Nov 2018 | #49 | |
lunatica | Nov 2018 | #58 | |
we can do it | Nov 2018 | #61 | |
3Hotdogs | Nov 2018 | #62 | |
lunatica | Nov 2018 | #66 | |
FakeNoose | Nov 2018 | #25 | |
Haggis for Breakfast | Nov 2018 | #50 | |
Ginger42 | Nov 2018 | #67 | |
gordianot | Nov 2018 | #26 | |
Bfd | Nov 2018 | #32 | |
gordianot | Nov 2018 | #37 | |
SCVDem | Nov 2018 | #27 | |
Bfd | Nov 2018 | #33 | |
lunatica | Nov 2018 | #46 | |
Haggis for Breakfast | Nov 2018 | #53 | |
Haggis for Breakfast | Nov 2018 | #54 | |
Cha | Nov 2018 | #28 | |
Bfd | Nov 2018 | #34 | |
Cha | Nov 2018 | #45 | |
beachbum bob | Nov 2018 | #30 | |
KY_EnviroGuy | Nov 2018 | #31 | |
Bfd | Nov 2018 | #35 | |
Susan Calvin | Nov 2018 | #48 | |
Haggis for Breakfast | Nov 2018 | #51 | |
Bfd | Nov 2018 | #52 | |
Judi Lynn | Nov 2018 | #56 | |
Demovictory9 | Nov 2018 | #57 | |
Hermit-The-Prog | Nov 2018 | #60 | |
Bfd | Nov 2018 | #63 | |
paleotn | Nov 2018 | #64 | |
Onward AND Upward | Nov 2018 | #70 |
Response to Bfd (Original post)
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 01:15 PM
SWBTATTReg (19,898 posts)
1. Great article, and shows what we can all do, when pressured. Thanks for posting. NT
Response to SWBTATTReg (Reply #1)
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 01:22 PM
Bfd (1,406 posts)
4. Indeed. And how many of those people will now vote for a Republican. Zero.
Republicans can't win anything without cheating.
The fact that this example is so publicized & about a State that loves its privacy from the rest of the noisemakers, is just the damned beautiful thing about it. Even obscure NDakota can no longer hide its dirty deeds. Best of luck to these proud people & bring it all home for Sen Heitkamp. VOTE BLUE 💙 ![]() |
Response to SWBTATTReg (Reply #1)
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 11:43 AM
lunatica (53,410 posts)
65. Here's a website where anyone can donate a few dollars
https://www.narf.org/cases/voting-rights/
Every little bit counts. We can help stop these vote suppression efforts. |
Response to lunatica (Reply #65)
Mon Nov 5, 2018, 12:49 AM
Onward AND Upward (122 posts)
71. Here are the correct donation links for Fourdirections...the boots on the ground people...
Their Crowdpac.com donation link:
https://www.crowdpac.com/campaigns/388864/take-back-the-senate-in-2018-by-getting-native-americans-to-the-polls Their website, where you can donate using Paypal, and, can include a short note: http://www.fourdirectionsvote.com/donation/ Here's a nice Time magazine article, from 11-02-18, detailing their efforts and the fact that some of their high school and college kids are getting involved. Great stuff: http://time.com/5442434/north-dakota-voting-law-native-american-activism/ The other link is still a good donation too, but I think that group is primarily the legal team, waging the court fights, and Four Directions are currently the boots on the ground team. Anyone from Four Directions, if you read this, please correct me if I've got this wrong. |
Response to Bfd (Original post)
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 01:19 PM
renate (13,775 posts)
2. it's so particularly evil to take voting rights away from NATIVE AMERICANS
Vile beyond words.
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Response to renate (Reply #2)
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 01:36 PM
Bfd (1,406 posts)
7. Yup. ND Tourism brings in big revenue by selling Native PowWows too.!!
https://www.ndtourism.com/articles/celebrate-life-north-dakota-powwows
Beautiful brochures & advertising. The cities bring in enormous revenues by promoting such an honored display of its history. State & city taxes & hotel & travel purchases are a big boon to the State every year. How much of that revenue goes to pay the salaries & State benes for the same Republicans that are eagerly suppressing the Native vote. What a slap in the face. Typical of the Republicans everywhere, from State to Federal Damn this pisses me off. I wish them so much success on Tuesday. 💙 |
Response to Bfd (Reply #7)
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 12:54 PM
Doitnow (1,103 posts)
68. Just more from the LIE, CHEAT, and STEAL reTHUG party.
Response to Doitnow (Reply #68)
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 01:31 PM
Bfd (1,406 posts)
69. Yup. "We love the revenue your 'entertainment' brings to the State, but you can't vote."
Exactly what they are telling the Tribes.
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Response to renate (Reply #2)
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 01:44 PM
dalton99a (75,659 posts)
8. +1. It really is.
Response to renate (Reply #2)
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 04:49 AM
calimary (76,044 posts)
59. That strikes me as the ULTIMATE insult.
The tribes were here FIRST. It was THEIR land FIRST. The very idea that we could deprive them of their voices is just beyond me.
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Response to Bfd (Original post)
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 01:21 PM
brush (47,851 posts)
3. Woohoo! We have our ways to overcome repug dirty tricks.
We just have to be aware that they're sitting somewhere right now scheming to come up with their next vote suppression trick.
It never fails. |
Response to brush (Reply #3)
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 01:26 PM
Bfd (1,406 posts)
5. That's how I see them also.
Like quietly stacking the Federal Bench in their favor to cover the dirt they dump on this country, while Trump makes stupid headlines.
Conniving bunch of crooks, every one of them. |
Response to Bfd (Original post)
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 01:32 PM
sheshe2 (79,530 posts)
6. This is, as Joe Biden said, a BFD!!!
Love this news!
Thanks, Bfd. ![]() |
Response to sheshe2 (Reply #6)
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 01:45 PM
Me. (35,414 posts)
10. Hey
Jinx, you owe me a coke...
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Response to Me. (Reply #10)
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 01:54 PM
sheshe2 (79,530 posts)
11. Next time we get together, Me.
![]() Aaaaah, also Great Minds Think Alike! ![]() |
Response to sheshe2 (Reply #6)
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 02:05 PM
Bfd (1,406 posts)
14. Ha. Well if Joe says so then it is a BFD!
You owe me a coke too!!
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Response to Bfd (Reply #14)
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 03:14 PM
Me. (35,414 posts)
22. I Refer You To Post #11
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Response to Bfd (Original post)
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 01:44 PM
Me. (35,414 posts)
9. Now This Is One BFD
+1
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Response to Bfd (Original post)
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 01:55 PM
sarge43 (28,756 posts)
12. First they came for ...
The Repugs won't stop until we stop them.
Vote, resist, protest. |
Response to Bfd (Original post)
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 02:02 PM
mountain grammy (25,517 posts)
13. Years of suppression, oppression, and depression
and it comes down to this.. shameful America..
Bravo for the ingenuity of our American Indians. ![]() |
Response to Bfd (Original post)
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 02:16 PM
gademocrat7 (10,147 posts)
15. Good news.
Despite the rethug roadblocks, Native Americans are giving their all to vote. Bravo!
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Response to Bfd (Original post)
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 02:19 PM
ginnyinWI (17,276 posts)
17. "Trump no friend to Indian!"
A paraphrase from my favorite movie, Key Largo. The gangsters had refused to let them in away from the hurricane, and they had blamed it on their friend, the hotel owner who was a hostage to the gangsters.
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Response to ginnyinWI (Reply #17)
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 02:36 PM
Bfd (1,406 posts)
18. K & R
That's a good way of descrribing the situatuation.
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Response to ginnyinWI (Reply #17)
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 02:44 PM
catbyte (32,480 posts)
19. This Indian couldn't agree more.
Il Douche has done everything in his power to make life more difficult for us in every way possible. I hope this is enough to put Heitkamp over the top. She's not my favorite Senator, but she'll more than do! When we band together we can do great things. A big reason Murkowski voted no on Kavanaugh is because Native Alaskan pressure.
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Response to catbyte (Reply #19)
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 12:14 AM
Judi Lynn (157,199 posts)
55. Didn't know that! So glad she got the message, anyway. Thanks, catbyte. n/t
Response to Bfd (Original post)
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 02:45 PM
NastyRiffraff (12,448 posts)
20. This is great
It's horrible that Native Americans are being threatened with losing their votes, deliberately and with malice. But I love that they're fighting back.
Rich Dems, step up and help any way you can. They probably need computers and printers for one thing, to print IDs. |
Response to Bfd (Original post)
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 03:45 PM
burrowowl (16,903 posts)
23. Bravo!
Their votes better count!
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Response to Bfd (Original post)
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 03:47 PM
lunatica (53,410 posts)
24. I donated to the effort to do this
I feel pride for being a part of it, albeit a very small part.
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Response to lunatica (Reply #24)
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 05:22 PM
Bfd (1,406 posts)
36. Kudos! Be the change.
What's small to us is mighty big to them.
Honestly, they have been thru so much. Look at the relentless stand they took against the Pipeline, aptly referred to by their ancestors in a long ago forewarning, that the danger to their Tribe's existance would come from "the black snake". And now this suppression of their votes. May they succeed on Tuesday ![]() |
Response to lunatica (Reply #24)
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 05:41 PM
Qutzupalotl (13,403 posts)
38. Thank you. Do you have the link to donate to the effort?
Response to Qutzupalotl (Reply #38)
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 06:01 PM
lunatica (53,410 posts)
39. Here is a website
https://www.narf.org/cases/voting-rights/
It the site for Native American Voting Rights Coalition of tribes from all over the country - Pawnee, Crow, Cherokee, Chickasaw, Oglala, Lakota, and Pueblo Native Americans are on the staff, most of whom are attorneys. Every little bit helps! |
Response to lunatica (Reply #39)
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 06:12 PM
Qutzupalotl (13,403 posts)
40. Thank you! Just sent them a few $$. nt
Response to Qutzupalotl (Reply #40)
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 07:09 PM
lunatica (53,410 posts)
44. It makes you feel good doesn't it?!
Response to lunatica (Reply #44)
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 09:01 PM
Qutzupalotl (13,403 posts)
47. It does. Way better than feeling powerless
or worse, trying to depress others. Thanks for all you do.
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Response to lunatica (Reply #39)
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 06:55 PM
Bfd (1,406 posts)
41. Thanks for posting this. I too just sent them a donation.
It is their basic American right & whatever gets them thru election day or thru the courts is all worthy.
Thanks much, lunatica 💙 |
Response to Bfd (Reply #41)
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 07:08 PM
lunatica (53,410 posts)
43. Thanks for donating!
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Response to lunatica (Reply #39)
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 07:04 PM
klook (11,768 posts)
42. Great, thanks (nt)
Response to lunatica (Reply #39)
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 10:32 PM
scarletwoman (31,893 posts)
49. Thank you for the link! I just sent a donation.
Today was payday - I'm so happy I could give! I really hope it helps!
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Response to scarletwoman (Reply #49)
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 03:17 AM
lunatica (53,410 posts)
58. Great!
![]() We need to fight these assholes trying to suppress the vote. |
Response to lunatica (Reply #24)
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 07:52 AM
we can do it (11,431 posts)
61. I did too, the night Rachel first reported on it.
Response to lunatica (Reply #24)
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 08:32 AM
3Hotdogs (10,439 posts)
62. Where did you donate?
Put the donation site as a link to the first response to the original post.
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Response to 3Hotdogs (Reply #62)
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 11:45 AM
lunatica (53,410 posts)
66. Thanks for your suggestion!
https://www.narf.org/cases/voting-rights/
I posted it as a response to the first response to the original poster as you suggested. |
Response to Bfd (Original post)
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 03:57 PM
FakeNoose (29,270 posts)
25. If they're already registered, and everything was cool THEN
.... they should be able to vote NOW! I don't get how the court thinks it can deny voters their privilege if the registration with ID and P.O. Box address was accepted.
However the North Dakota judge did exactly that, and it has been posted on another thread here: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211355444 This just absolutely sucks and it can't be legal. ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Response to FakeNoose (Reply #25)
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 11:58 PM
Haggis for Breakfast (6,831 posts)
50. And they HAD to know this.
On many reservations, streets simply are not named, not officially anyhow. They are mostly identified by who lives there.
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Response to FakeNoose (Reply #25)
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 12:48 PM
Ginger42 (59 posts)
67. North Dakota doesn't have voter registration
It's the only state in the country that doesn't.
http://www.startribune.com/no-voter-registration-point-of-pride-unease-in-north-dakota/485071011/ I grew up in North Dakota. When I went to the polling place, I just showed my driver's license and got a ballot. But of course my license had a street address. Now that I think about it, under these new rules my parents wouldn't have been eligible. Lived in ND all their lives but on a farm with a rural route number and no street address. |
Response to Bfd (Original post)
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 04:00 PM
gordianot (15,026 posts)
26. So does this also keep rural Trumpers from voting?
It would be interesting to know how many residents in this State have rural addresses versus street address. Funny thing about voter suppression there may be unintended consequences.
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Response to gordianot (Reply #26)
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 04:55 PM
Bfd (1,406 posts)
32. Years ago the state funded a fly over GPS grid which basically created street numbers & names so
every farm/ranch was given an official street address.
No matter if you pitched a tent in a 100 mile radius of nothing but prairie, and claimed it your home (or not) you could find a street address for that tent because it was already on a grid. Why it wasn't also done on Reservations at the time, I do not know. But you can always count on the sleeziness of the Repubs to scour the books to find the one loophole that exists, & use it to their advantage. Which is just what they did in this case. Also this GPS survey is what the Tribal attys will be using at the polling booths, as stated in the article, to simply touch a spot on their computer screen and instantly, they are given an address. So the Native attys are basically using the same address grid system that the Repubs used to suppress the vote, against them to create instant addresses. Pretty cool, right! |
Response to Bfd (Reply #32)
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 05:24 PM
gordianot (15,026 posts)
37. That is really twisted but I am never surprised at Republican schemes.
As sovereign nations I hope Native American tribes can correct this.
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Response to Bfd (Original post)
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 04:16 PM
SCVDem (5,103 posts)
27. The name is....
Native AMERICANS!
Never let that be forgotten! |
Response to SCVDem (Reply #27)
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 05:01 PM
Bfd (1,406 posts)
33. If anyone qualifies for Trumps birthright law, its the Native Americans.
Everyone else, not so much
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Response to SCVDem (Reply #27)
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 07:11 PM
lunatica (53,410 posts)
46. First Americans ought to be used
Just as a reminder of the truth.
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Response to lunatica (Reply #46)
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 12:08 AM
Haggis for Breakfast (6,831 posts)
53. In Canada, sovereign people are referred to as
"First Nations" --- which I just love.
Remember that Canada carved out a large piece of land - over 808,200 square miles - for the Iqaluit Nation. |
Response to Haggis for Breakfast (Reply #53)
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 12:08 AM
Haggis for Breakfast (6,831 posts)
54. P/S It's name is Nunavut.
Response to Bfd (Original post)
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 04:33 PM
Cha (286,664 posts)
28. Love IT!
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Response to Cha (Reply #28)
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 05:03 PM
Bfd (1,406 posts)
34. I know! Will be watching this one on tuesday 💙👀
I hope they win!
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Response to Bfd (Original post)
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 04:44 PM
beachbum bob (10,437 posts)
30. There was time to prepare for this, this time
Response to Bfd (Original post)
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 04:48 PM
KY_EnviroGuy (14,361 posts)
31. Quote: "GOP's overt voter suppression "is only making us more aware of our rights".
In many, many cases with covert or even overt GOP actions, public awareness the the key to countering their corruption.
I'm proud of our Native American brothers and sisters for this valiant effort....... ![]() ![]() |
Response to KY_EnviroGuy (Reply #31)
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 05:08 PM
Bfd (1,406 posts)
35. Absolutely. If any lessons of elections are learned, it is as you state:
"public awareness the the key to countering their corruption. "
Repubs are natural born pickpockets, thieves, & criminal thinkers. |
Response to Bfd (Original post)
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 10:26 PM
Susan Calvin (1,500 posts)
48. That's got to be unConstitutional. nt
Response to Bfd (Original post)
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 12:01 AM
Haggis for Breakfast (6,831 posts)
51. "The NYT reported that one band of Chippewa
printed so many IDs that the machine overheated and started melting the cards."
Where can we send money to the Chippewa Nation to replace that machine ? |
Response to Haggis for Breakfast (Reply #51)
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 12:06 AM
Bfd (1,406 posts)
52. I don't know but this whole story should be made into a movie or TV mini series.
And wouldn't that scene from the overheated ID card machine be the best!
This would win awards. I would watch it over & over.. |
Response to Bfd (Reply #52)
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 12:18 AM
Judi Lynn (157,199 posts)
56. You're right, it would be outstanding if people got a chance to see it. n/t
Response to Bfd (Original post)
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 01:29 AM
Demovictory9 (29,954 posts)
57. excellent.. someone buy them a 2nd ID machine
Response to Bfd (Original post)
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 07:27 AM
Hermit-The-Prog (27,989 posts)
60. standnvote.org
https://www.standnvote.org/
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Response to Hermit-The-Prog (Reply #60)
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 10:03 AM
Bfd (1,406 posts)
63. ✔ Thank you for adding this Link! Everything one needs to know to vote, is there.
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Response to Bfd (Original post)
Mon Nov 5, 2018, 12:43 AM
Onward AND Upward (122 posts)