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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,972 posts)
Tue Nov 27, 2018, 11:35 PM Nov 2018

Donald Trump's Grandfather Was Kicked Out of Germany for Draft-Dodging

When President Trump rails against immigrants, he likes to say that other countries are "not sending their best" people to the United States.

Well, this shouldn't come as any surprise given Trump's embrace of "immigration hypocrite" Stephen Miller and others like him, but newly unearthed documents show that Trump's grandfather, Friedrich Trump, was in fact banished from Germany for ditching out on military service. (Aka, failing to "be best" in the eyes of the German government.)

That banishment led to the Trump clan putting down firm roots in this country, where, more than a century later, Friedrich Trump's grandson is defending US border guards who recently fired tear gas at migrants from Central America who are fleeing difficult conditions in their home countries and looking to start anew in America.

This is all just one more indication that history and political hypocrisy don't matter much at this moment.

https://www.thestranger.com/slog/2018/11/27/36294198/donald-trumps-grandfather-was-kicked-out-of-germany-for-draft-dodging

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Donald Trump's Grandfather Was Kicked Out of Germany for Draft-Dodging (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2018 OP
In true Trumpian fashion, he not only broke the rules, but also expected them to ignore that he had. RockRaven Nov 2018 #1
Oh that, yes, here's another from the UK Guardian Wash. state Desk Jet Nov 2018 #2
What a shame. If it had been the Texas National Guard from which he bailed, 3Hotdogs Nov 2018 #3
Good for him. Odoreida Nov 2018 #4
I think the point of the article was not that he was a draft dodger Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2018 #5
Ah! Odoreida Nov 2018 #6

RockRaven

(14,966 posts)
1. In true Trumpian fashion, he not only broke the rules, but also expected them to ignore that he had.
Tue Nov 27, 2018, 11:52 PM
Nov 2018

Dude leaves the country to avoid military service and once he's too old to fulfill his conscription requirement he comes strolling back, whistling like a cartoon character trying to be inconspicuous, expecting them to just forget about it.

Wash. state Desk Jet

(3,426 posts)
2. Oh that, yes, here's another from the UK Guardian
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 12:13 AM
Nov 2018
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/21/trump-grandfather-friedrich-banished-germany-historian-royal-decree?fbclid=IwAR0hi3reOCSJKc19TiamVa7A9YICqfNgVkK3tWknK-IiltmfMoS6kzzieLk

Historian finds German decree banishing Trump's grandfather
Royal decree ordered Friedrich Trump to leave Bavaria and never come back after he failed to do military service.



A historian has discovered a royal decree issued to Donald Trump’s grandfather ordering him to leave Germany and never come back.
Friedrich Trump, a German, was issued with the document in February 1905, and ordered to leave the kingdom of Bavaria within eight weeks as punishment for having failed to do mandatory military service and failing to give authorities notice of his departure to the US when he first emigrated in 1885.

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Roland Paul, a historian from Rhineland-Palatinate who found the document in local archives, told the tabloid Bild: “Friedrich Trump emigrated from Germany to the USA in 1885. However, he failed to de-register from his homeland and had not carried out his military service, which is why the authorities rejected his attempt at repatriation.

3Hotdogs

(12,375 posts)
3. What a shame. If it had been the Texas National Guard from which he bailed,
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 12:50 AM
Nov 2018

he might have been Reich Chancellor and later Fuhrer.

 

Odoreida

(1,549 posts)
4. Good for him.
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 11:05 AM
Nov 2018

The president is scum, but his grandfather did the right thing.

Full disclosure -- I was a draft dodger.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,972 posts)
5. I think the point of the article was not that he was a draft dodger
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 03:46 PM
Nov 2018

But that he came to this country as a refugee and was allowed to stay.

Those in the Central American caravan would like to do likewise but Donald Trump wishes to stop them.

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