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Sun Jan 6, 2019, 01:17 AM

NYT op-ed on impeachment of DJT...The People vs. Donald J. Trump

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The People vs. Donald J. Trump

By David Leonhardt (Pulitizer Prize winner for commentary in 2011); makes a pretty strong case:

[link:https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/05/opinion/sunday/trump-impeachment.html|]


It’s not only that Trump is unfit to be president and that Republicans know it. It also may be the case that they will soon have a political self-interest in abandoning him. If they did, the end could come swiftly. The House could then impeach Trump, knowing the Senate might act to convict. Or negotiations could begin over whether Trump deserves to trade resignation for some version of immunity.

Finally, there is the hope — naïve though it may seem — that some Republicans will choose to act on principle. There now exists a small club of former Trump administration officials who were widely respected before joining the administration and whom Trump has sullied, to greater or lesser degrees. It includes Rex Tillerson, Gary Cohn, H.R. McMaster and Jim Mattis. Imagine if one of them gave a television interview and told the truth about Trump. Doing so would be a service to their country at a time of national need. It would be an illustration of duty.

Throughout his career, Trump has worked hard to invent his own reality, and largely succeeded. It has made him very rich and, against all odds, elected him president. But whatever happens in 2019, his false version of reality will not survive history, just as Nixon’s did not. Which side of that history do today’s Republicans want to be on?


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Reply NYT op-ed on impeachment of DJT...The People vs. Donald J. Trump (Original post)
RHMerriman Jan 2019 OP
Pachamama Jan 2019 #1
RHMerriman Jan 2019 #2
Pachamama Jan 2019 #3
RHMerriman Jan 2019 #5
ariadne0614 Jan 2019 #10
Fritz Walter Jan 2019 #11
dalton99a Jan 2019 #4
erlewyne Jan 2019 #6
RHMerriman Jan 2019 #7
bluecollar2 Jan 2019 #8
calimary Jan 2019 #9
BlueWI Jan 2019 #12
RHMerriman Jan 2019 #13

Response to RHMerriman (Original post)

Sun Jan 6, 2019, 02:08 AM

1. Excellent Read - The summary above isn't enough - Read full article n/t

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Response to Pachamama (Reply #1)

Sun Jan 6, 2019, 02:21 AM

2. Yep.


Makes a strong case.

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Response to RHMerriman (Reply #2)

Sun Jan 6, 2019, 02:27 AM

3. The editorial lays out the roadmap and reasons for Impeachment....

....and it isn't even based on Russian Collusion....

This article is a must read and should be carried in the pocket of every Congress member and also be the talking points whenever engaged in a discussion about Trump and his crimes and why he must go....

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Response to Pachamama (Reply #3)

Sun Jan 6, 2019, 03:19 AM

5. Very true indeed...


Lays it out better than Rep. Sherman has so far, actually.

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Response to Pachamama (Reply #1)

Sun Jan 6, 2019, 09:52 AM

10. I agree. It was worth the read. n/t

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Response to Pachamama (Reply #1)

Sun Jan 6, 2019, 01:55 PM

11. Spoiler 🚨 Alert

These are the closing paragraphs of the exceptionally well-written piece:
Finally, there is the hope — naïve though it may seem — that some Republicans will choose to act on principle. There now exists a small club of former Trump administration officials who were widely respected before joining the administration and whom Trump has sullied, to greater or lesser degrees. It includes Rex Tillerson, Gary Cohn, H.R. McMaster and Jim Mattis. Imagine if one of them gave a television interview and told the truth about Trump. Doing so would be a service to their country at a time of national need. It would be an illustration of duty.

Throughout his career, Trump has worked hard to invent his own reality, and largely succeeded. It has made him very rich and, against all odds, elected him president. But whatever happens in 2019, his false version of reality will not survive history, just as Nixon’s did not. Which side of that history do today’s Republicans want to be on?


Bottom line: as much as we’d love to watch the RepubliCONs fall into a sinkhole (environmental consequences notwithstanding), an ill-planned impeachment could backfire and rally his base and others in 2020. Once he’s gone, then we can look forward to a post-RepubliCON era in government.

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Response to RHMerriman (Original post)

Sun Jan 6, 2019, 02:41 AM

4. Let the hearings begin!

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Response to RHMerriman (Original post)

Sun Jan 6, 2019, 03:38 AM

6. Shakespeare on Trump

“That he's mad, 'tis true,
'tis true 'tis pity,
And pity 'tis, 'tis true
—a foolish figure,”

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Response to erlewyne (Reply #6)

Sun Jan 6, 2019, 03:45 AM

7. Trump makes Richard III look like Henry V...

Trump makes Richard III look like Henry V...

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Response to RHMerriman (Original post)

Sun Jan 6, 2019, 04:30 AM

8. Very well written opinion piece...n/t

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Response to RHMerriman (Original post)

Sun Jan 6, 2019, 05:00 AM

9. That's quite a humdinger.

So then, what ARE we going to do about this?

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Response to RHMerriman (Original post)

Sun Jan 6, 2019, 03:45 PM

12. Stellar article.

Thanks for posting it. Hopefully these concerns will be headed, but all of us have a role to play in building public support for impeachment. I haven't written my reps and senators about it. I need to do so.

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Response to BlueWI (Reply #12)

Sun Jan 6, 2019, 09:18 PM

13. Very welcome...

Pass it around.

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