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riversedge

(70,204 posts)
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 07:31 PM Apr 2019

Poll: Only 18% say they are paying less under #Trump tax law




Poll: Only 18% say they are paying less under #Trump tax law https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-americas-thinking/438956-only-18-percent-of-americans-say-theyre-paying-less-in-taxes #TrumptaxSCAM #GOPtaxSCAM #resist


4/15/2019

Less than one in five registered voters say they paid less in taxes during the first year of President Trump's landmark tax law, a Hill-HarrisX poll released Monday finds.

Only 18 percent of respondents say they are paying less in federal taxes for 2018 compared to 2017 in the survey, which was taken ahead of the April 15 tax deadline.

A majority said their 2018 tax bill was about the same or higher compared to 2017. Thirty-two percent said their federal taxes were higher under the Trump tax law. A plurality of respondents, 36 percent, said they owed about the same in federal taxes compared to the previous year. Fourteen percent said they were not sure whether they paid more or less.

Monday marked the filing deadline in most states. Trump's tax law delivered $1.5 trillion in cuts to businesses and individuals but the poll highlights how most Americans don't believe they benefited under the changes.

The survey's finding that 18 percent of voters believe their taxes went down is similar to a March poll from NBC News and The Wall Street Journal which found that only 17 percent of adults contacted believed their federal liability had declined in 2018.

According to estimates compiled by the Tax Policy Center, the law will cut individual taxes for two-thirds of households, 65 percent, while raising individual income taxes for 6 percent .............................................
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Poll: Only 18% say they are paying less under #Trump tax law (Original Post) riversedge Apr 2019 OP
I think too many people judge their tax burden based on their refund. Hoyt Apr 2019 #1
"Poll: Only 18% say they are paying less under #Trump tax law." LenaBaby61 Apr 2019 #2
Which goes to the previous poster's point. Igel Apr 2019 #3
And the GOP should have known voters think that way. The GOP witholding-reduction scam lagomorph777 Apr 2019 #8
OK - This is a burning issue for me! IndianaDave Apr 2019 #4
Your problem may be "I do my own taxes." JayhawkSD Apr 2019 #6
My Refund Decreased 33% ROB-ROX Apr 2019 #5
Again, that was your refund, not tax paid. JayhawkSD Apr 2019 #7
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
1. I think too many people judge their tax burden based on their refund.
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 07:54 PM
Apr 2019

That’s not the way to gauge it.

I suspect the Tax Policy Center is closer to truth.

Of course, I’m fine with poorer trump supporters thinking he screwed them directly on taxes, as well as everything else.

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
2. "Poll: Only 18% say they are paying less under #Trump tax law."
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 08:32 PM
Apr 2019

I don't know thousands of people clearly , but of those almost 70 I stay in contact with combined here in California and across the country who spoke with me about their taxes (25 people), told me that they either got a minimal tax refund (Hundreds of dollars) or owed a few hundred dollars. The majority got NOTHING in tax refunds this year (They ALL told me that they received some type of a tax refund last year). And to break it down more, those same 25 people told me that their married/non-married working children with children either got nothing in returns, a much smaller tax refund (Well under a thousand dollars when it had been a refund in the several thousands of dollars camp), or they actually owed taxes this year.

Oh, and ALL were damned FURIOUS at tRump as you can imagine.

Igel

(35,300 posts)
3. Which goes to the previous poster's point.
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 10:12 PM
Apr 2019

They confuse their total taxes with tax refund amounts.

Tax refunds are overpayments. It's an interest-free loan to the federal government.

Meh. It's change. My mother always used to say, "Change is good." But most of the time when things changed, she wasn't expecting it and was upset. And got more upset when I said, "But I thought 'change is good'." People for the most part only think change is good when it helps them, those they're in favor of, or hurts those they dislike.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
8. And the GOP should have known voters think that way. The GOP witholding-reduction scam
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 10:27 AM
Apr 2019

was idiotic beyond belief. They might have been able to fool a lot more voters if they hadn't pulled that trick.

IndianaDave

(612 posts)
4. OK - This is a burning issue for me!
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:46 AM
Apr 2019

I posted earlier about my taxes increasing, and was told by a couple folks that I had to be mistaken.

1) My fairly low income did not increase from 2017 to 2018.

2) My withholding amount decreased slightly, and, consequently, I gained approximately $15 more a month, which I appreciated. This means, of course, that my annual income increased by about $180 in 2018.

3) I do my own taxes -- always have -- and, in spite of the amount of my refund, I ended up paying several hundred dollars MORE in taxes than I did in 2017. And that amount means a lot when you don't have a lot.

4) For those who want to tell me that I just THINK I'm paying more, I assure you that I have carefully calculated the difference between what I actually paid in federal taxes and the amount of my refund. From my experience, the Tax Policy Center is full of it. I'm definitely not among that 18 percent.

 

JayhawkSD

(3,163 posts)
6. Your problem may be "I do my own taxes."
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 10:10 AM
Apr 2019

I figured my income tax this year and thought that we were going to have to pay about $2500 on tax day.

We took my documents to the tax preparer, and he figured out that not only do we get a refund, but that by applying that refund to the next year's tax we do not have to pay estimated tax for 2019.

Doing your own taxes, unless you are a certified tax accountant yourself, is foolish. There is nothing arcane about our income; the tax accountant charged only $250. The most complicated thing is that we have a mortgage on our house.

ROB-ROX

(767 posts)
5. My Refund Decreased 33%
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 10:00 AM
Apr 2019

I have done my own taxes since I was a teenager. Last year, people could NOT take a deduction for themselves and other things. This will decrease income tax refunds. A very small percentage of people may see an increase in their refund or paid less income tax. We the majority will see a decrease in our income tax refund. In a few months the TRUTH will come out that the RE-THUGS screwed the nation and it's people AGAIN

 

JayhawkSD

(3,163 posts)
7. Again, that was your refund, not tax paid.
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 10:16 AM
Apr 2019
"We the majority will see a decrease in our income tax refund." Which does not mean an increase in tax paid. The refund does not speak to the amount of tax you paid.

And see my post #6 above about doing your own taxes.
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