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Bennyboy

(10,440 posts)
Wed Apr 25, 2012, 02:44 PM Apr 2012

Obama explains his war on cannabis! (Yeah right)

Amid an increased crackdown on medical marijuana producers across the nation, including a recent high-profile raid on a California training school, President Barack Obama faced questions in a new interview with Rolling Stone about the seeming disconnect between his 2008 campaign rhetoric and his administration's actions since he took office.

"I'm not going to be using Justice Department resources to try to circumvent state laws [on medical marijuana]," Obama promised in 2008, according to an earlier Rolling Stone report. But Attorney General Eric Holder announced in 2010 that federal authorities would continue to prosecute individuals for marijuana possession, despite its legalized status in some states.

The Huffington Post's Lucia Graves reported recently on subsequent enforcement activity:

READ MORE: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/25/obama-marijuana-raids-rolling-stone_n_1451744.html

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Obama explains his war on cannabis! (Yeah right) (Original Post) Bennyboy Apr 2012 OP
Geez, go read what his response is, . . . WTF kind of fine line drawing is that? Lionessa Apr 2012 #1
He's all about "treatment" now. bluedigger Apr 2012 #2
be grateful he is not killing pot smokers by way of drones....yet nt msongs Apr 2012 #3
So his toehold is that he's not going after mmj users, but he's so f'ing wrong... Lionessa Apr 2012 #4
Boo, hiss ... GeorgeGist Apr 2012 #5
Barack Obama smoked pot. Why can't I? nt MannyGoldstein Apr 2012 #6
He's a hypocrite and not a man of his word on this and many other issues. Bluenorthwest Apr 2012 #7
this is the best assessment I've read mitchtv Apr 2012 #8
Obama needs to rein in that loose cannon aka Holder. kestrel91316 Apr 2012 #9
Then why not a war on alcohol? Blue Owl Apr 2012 #10
His actions to words record on this issue is abysmal. Uncle Joe Apr 2012 #11
SCOTUS: State Medical Marijuana Laws Not Preempted by Federal Law 99th_Monkey Apr 2012 #12
OT but "“it is not the job of the local police to enforce the federal drug laws.”" do you think cstanleytech Apr 2012 #15
I would think so, at least tangentially. 99th_Monkey Apr 2012 #16
OT = Off Topic cstanleytech Apr 2012 #18
Got it. thanks ~nt 99th_Monkey Apr 2012 #21
holy cow! 6200 comments at the huffpo article. kristopher Apr 2012 #13
And the final assault on Medical Cannabis in CA begins.... Bennyboy Apr 2012 #14
I think the recent SCOTUS decision to NOT hear this case may stop Holder 99th_Monkey Apr 2012 #17
Yeah that is HUGE.... HUGE! Bennyboy Apr 2012 #19
You should post this separately in GD.... Bennyboy Apr 2012 #20
 

Lionessa

(3,894 posts)
1. Geez, go read what his response is, . . . WTF kind of fine line drawing is that?
Wed Apr 25, 2012, 02:52 PM
Apr 2012

Not only that but it's a really bad line and honestly it sounds like the slippery lies we got from Bushco when we found out we were lied into war, or the convoluted bs we here from both as to why torture and extraordinary redition and black prisons are okay.

What a load of crap.

 

Lionessa

(3,894 posts)
4. So his toehold is that he's not going after mmj users, but he's so f'ing wrong...
Wed Apr 25, 2012, 03:01 PM
Apr 2012

If he makes a safe, legal acquisition of mmj impossible, nearly impossible, or otherwise too difficult to acquire, then they will be forced back onto the black market, which will further and continue the war on drugs and the entire Latin American / USA drug war insanity.

So this means to me that Obama wants us to continue to smoke pot, just don't do it legally because we have War on Drugs to support, and 100,000s of more people are yet to be massacred, and 100,000s more are yet to be imprisoned, not for smoking mmj, but for buying from the black market.


Yeah, Obama. What turd sandwich you're trying to feed us. Why not just come out explain to us who's paying you to keep the prison, penal, and military complexes so generously considered.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
7. He's a hypocrite and not a man of his word on this and many other issues.
Wed Apr 25, 2012, 03:19 PM
Apr 2012

Got to feed the prison industry plenty of minority youth!

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
9. Obama needs to rein in that loose cannon aka Holder.
Wed Apr 25, 2012, 03:49 PM
Apr 2012

The DOJ IS using federal resources to circumvent state laws in CA.

LEAVE MMJ USERS AND THEIR PROVIDERS ALONE.

Blue Owl

(50,355 posts)
10. Then why not a war on alcohol?
Wed Apr 25, 2012, 03:52 PM
Apr 2012

It is more dangerous, more lethal, more addictive, and causes its users to behave more recklessly.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
12. SCOTUS: State Medical Marijuana Laws Not Preempted by Federal Law
Wed Apr 25, 2012, 06:56 PM
Apr 2012

APPARENTLY OBAMA AND HOLDER DIDN'T GET THE MEMO YET..

WASHINGTON, DC – The U.S. Supreme Court refused to review a landmark
decision today in which California state courts found that its medical marijuana
law was not preempted by federal law. The state appellate court decision
from November 28, 2007, ruled that “it is not the job of the local police to
enforce the federal drug laws.”

The case, involving Felix Kha, a medical marijuana patient from Garden
Grove, was the result of a wrongful seizure of medical marijuana by local
police in June 2005. Medical marijuana advocates hailed today’s decision
as a huge victory in clarifying law enforcement’s obligation to uphold state
law. Advocates assert that better adherence to state medical marijuana
laws by local police will result in fewer needless arrests and seizures. In
turn, this will allow for better implementation of medical marijuana laws
not only in California, but in all states that have adopted such laws.

http://www.thedailychronic.net/2011/7350/supreme-court-state-medical-marijuana-laws-not-preempted-by-federal-law/

cstanleytech

(26,290 posts)
15. OT but "“it is not the job of the local police to enforce the federal drug laws.”" do you think
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 02:59 AM
Apr 2012

that may have any bearing on the ruling for the states passing immigration laws?

 

Bennyboy

(10,440 posts)
14. And the final assault on Medical Cannabis in CA begins....
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 11:23 PM
Apr 2012

(04-26) 18:26 PDT NOVATO -- Federal prosecutors are moving to seize two Novato buildings that house medical-marijuana dispensaries, following through on warnings they began issuing last fall when they announced a campaign against California's pot clubs.

The U.S. attorney's office in San Francisco went to federal court Monday asking that the landlords of the Green Door Wellness Education Center and the neighboring Green Tiger dispensary forfeit their properties on Redwood Boulevard. By Wednesday, Green Tiger had already closed.

Federal prosecutors have sent letters to at least 300 dispensaries in California, threatening prosecution and asset forfeiture for allegedly violating federal law against marijuana distribution, said Kris Hermes, a spokesman for Americans for Safe Access, a pro-medical marijuana group.

About 300 dispensaries have voluntarily shut down, including five in San Francisco, Hermes said. Some had been pressured by federal prosecutors, and others were scared off by the government's campaign, he said.

But Hermes said he could "count on one hand" the number of asset forfeitures the federal government has pursued.



Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2012/04/26/BAAU1O9MLP.DTL#ixzz1tCuv3ojB

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