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Zorro

(15,740 posts)
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 01:57 PM Jul 2020

The world is realizing the U.S. is no longer committed to basic standards of decency

NOT SO long ago, asylum seekers turned to the United States, seeking refuge from repressive states. Now the United States is one of those repressive states.

That’s the gist of a Canadian federal court ruling, which would scrap a 16-year-old bilateral treaty called the Safe Third Country Agreement, under which Canada and the United States each recognize the other as a safe place to seek refuge. Justice Ann Marie McDonald ruled that Canada’s practice of turning back third-country refugees who try to cross at official points of entry along the U.S.-Canada frontier — on the theory that they have already reached a safe harbor in the United States — no longer makes sense given the atrocious treatment to which they are subjected south of the border. Canada, she wrote, can no longer turn a blind eye to the reality that the United States denies decent and dignified treatment to asylum seekers.

Justice McDonald based her ruling partly on testimony from asylum seekers who described harrowing conditions of confinement in U.S. detention, to which they are automatically taken when turned back by Canada. One of them, a refugee from Ethiopia named Nedira Jemal Mustefa, recounted what she called a “terrifying, isolating and psychologically traumatic” experience at a “freezing” facility where she was held in upstate New York. Other testimony in the Canadian court provided evidence that detainees in U.S. facilities were denied access to counsel, phone calls and translators, and some were subjected to solitary confinement.

The judge found that the “accounts of the detainees demonstrate both physical and psychological suffering because of detention, and a real risk that they will not be able to assert asylum claims” in the United States.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/canada-gives-americas-treatment-of-refugees-a-failing-grade/2020/07/27/3eabeb8e-cdfa-11ea-b0e3-d55bda07d66a_story.html

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The world is realizing the U.S. is no longer committed to basic standards of decency (Original Post) Zorro Jul 2020 OP
...and what about thohse of us who want to flee the US? FirstLight Jul 2020 #1
There was Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia... Moostache Jul 2020 #2
Cape Breton's in Nova Scotia, which is part of Canada, which has a travel ban on US citizens. ancianita Jul 2020 #3

FirstLight

(13,360 posts)
1. ...and what about thohse of us who want to flee the US?
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 03:18 PM
Jul 2020

Seriously, if this shitshow continues and he steals the election, I am filing for refugee status. I heard there's already a few countries who actually recognize "trup refugee" status...Ireland and New Zealand i think...

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
2. There was Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia...
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 03:25 PM
Jul 2020

100,000's of Americans clicked on the links...

From 2016:
https://www.cnn.com/2016/03/03/world/trump-cape-breton-amanpour/index.html

And the sequel:

Well…

Now that you’ve had a few years to take your latest President out for a test drive, what do you think? Better than you hoped? Worse than you were expecting? Paying strippers, kids in cages, hanging out with Putin, saying climate change is a hoax every time it snows… the US President has had an eventful first term to say the least.

If you are still thinking about flying the coop if Donald Trump wins come 2020, I would ask that you consider Cape Breton Island. Make no mistake, it is extremely difficult to move to Canada, and this little island is no exception, but the longest journey can begin with a single click:

http://cbiftrumpwins.com/

ancianita

(36,055 posts)
3. Cape Breton's in Nova Scotia, which is part of Canada, which has a travel ban on US citizens.
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 05:42 PM
Jul 2020

I've been there and would love to take them up on the offer, but now that Americans are banned all over the continent, we're being forced to work all the harder to get Trump out. Do or die.

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