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Tue Aug 4, 2020, 10:50 PM

The right way to interview Trump.

Not all mass media is cowed into compliance about leaving his idiocy alone.

Washington (CNN)
Jonathan Swan, a reporter for Axios, has revealed the magic words that expose President Donald Trump's lies for what they are.
Who?
What?
How?
No.
In an interview that aired Monday night on "Axios on HBO," Swan demolished some of Trump's most dishonest talking points with a powerful tactic that has rarely been used by the people Trump has allowed to interview him:
Basic follow-up questions.
Many of Trump's interviewers are right-wing sycophants who have no interest in challenging him. But Trump has defeated even his other interviewers by employing a strategy we can call the hit-and-run -- saying dishonest stuff, then darting ahead to other dishonest stuff before the interviewer reacts.

Swan -- like Fox News' Chris Wallace, to a slightly lesser extent, in an interview that aired July 19 -- came armed with facts and prepared to use them, even if he had to interrupt Trump like Trump interrupts others.
And Trump wasn't ready to respond.

Take their exchange about coronavirus testing. Trump uttered a version of his now-familiar refrain about how testing is overrated -- attributing this nonsense to unnamed "those that say."
Swan pressed for details.

Trump: "You know, there are those that say you can test too much, you do know that."
Swan: "Who says that?"
Trump: "Oh, just read the manuals. Read the books."
Swan: "Manuals? What manuals?"
Trump: "Read the books. Read the books."
Swan: "What books?"

Trump moved on without offering a direct answer. While Swan couldn't get the President to concede that he is making up these "manuals" and "books," he exposed him nonetheless.
Swan had similar success when Trump returned to his laughably inaccurate claim that the virus is "under control," which he has now been making for more than six months.

Trump: "Right now, I think it's under control. I'll tell you what --"
Swan: "How? 1,000 Americans are dying a day."
Trump: "They are dying. That's true. And you have -- it is what it is. But that doesn't mean we aren't doing everything we can. It's under control as much as you can control it."

Again, Trump didn't explicitly surrender. But Swan's basic follow-up -- a "how?" and a single key statistic -- forced Trump into a de facto surrender ("It's under control as much as you can control it" and another revealing remark, "It is what it is."

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https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/04/politics/fact-check-jonathan-swan-axios-hbo-interview-trump-coronavirus/index.html

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nocoincidences Aug 2020 OP
dalton99a Aug 2020 #1
lagomorph777 Aug 2020 #16
canetoad Aug 2020 #2
Kali Aug 2020 #4
canetoad Aug 2020 #5
Kali Aug 2020 #7
happyez Aug 2020 #3
canetoad Aug 2020 #6
happyez Aug 2020 #13
canetoad Aug 2020 #15
Cha Aug 2020 #9
happyez Aug 2020 #14
live love laugh Aug 2020 #12
Cha Aug 2020 #8
forgotmylogin Aug 2020 #10
live love laugh Aug 2020 #11

Response to nocoincidences (Original post)

Tue Aug 4, 2020, 11:08 PM

1. Unfortunately, they don't teach that kind of stuff in journalism school

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #1)

Wed Aug 5, 2020, 08:12 AM

16. I was taught the "W" questions in 6th grade.

They are the essentials of telling any story, especially a news story.

Your sarcasm is well-placed. A "journalist" who won't ask the "W" questions does not have any place on my TV screen.

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Response to nocoincidences (Original post)

Tue Aug 4, 2020, 11:17 PM

2. Yep, he did well

I'm still thinking about whether it was the fact that Jonathan Swan is an Australian, that he scored so many hits.

We tend to be the ultimate iconoclasts here. No tall poppy is spared. Being an Aussie, he doesn't have the inbuilt reverence for the office of President that most US journalists have.

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Response to canetoad (Reply #2)

Tue Aug 4, 2020, 11:21 PM

4. ...



we sort of used to be like that

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Response to Kali (Reply #4)

Tue Aug 4, 2020, 11:27 PM

5. Hey Kali

Long time no see my friend.

Pretty proud to be an Aussie today after seeing Jonathan Swan's work, and I'm so glad it's made your orange idiot an laughing point.

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Response to canetoad (Reply #5)

Tue Aug 4, 2020, 11:29 PM

7. he did what they all should have been doing all along

if not ignoring him

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Response to nocoincidences (Original post)

Tue Aug 4, 2020, 11:18 PM

3. Swan is from Australia

ē†His dad is Normal Swan, the national broadcaster's science program presenter
ē He is trained in Australia, where follow up questions are common everywhere. Why it isn't in the US is a mystery to me
ē Australians are big on exposing dickheads. This is the professional version.

I'd also go onto Youtube and look up videos about Kerry O'Brien. You're going to wish he was in Chuck Todd's place.

Try this one:

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Response to happyez (Reply #3)

Tue Aug 4, 2020, 11:28 PM

6. Thanks for posting this

O'Brien is a great journalist.

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Response to canetoad (Reply #6)

Wed Aug 5, 2020, 12:43 AM

13. Andrew Olle

Hi Toad of Cane - remember Andrew Olle from the 90s?

He died way too early, but he was just as exceptional. Him and Kerry were battling for the 7:30 Report slot!

The old ABC journalists ... I wish Kerry was still interviewing, but you know, we need another 100 Kerry's!

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Response to happyez (Reply #13)

Wed Aug 5, 2020, 03:02 AM

15. Yeah, I remember Andrew Olle

Are you an Aussie?

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Response to happyez (Reply #3)

Tue Aug 4, 2020, 11:57 PM

9. Cheers for that info on Jonathan Swan, happyez.. & thanks

for the Vid on Kerry O'Brien.

This vid on trump is from a Melbourne dude..

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Response to Cha (Reply #9)

Wed Aug 5, 2020, 01:02 AM

14. This was another (someone mentioned them eariler)

John Clarke and Brian Dawe - John is dead now, but very funny, droll humour. Did a send up series of preparing for the 2000 Sydney Olympic Games. Here is a typical example of his slot on the 7:30 Report - US related

[link:|

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Response to happyez (Reply #3)

Wed Aug 5, 2020, 12:20 AM

12. "... follow up questions are common everywhere. Why it isn't in the US is a mystery to me..."

American journalism pretty much died with the purchase of the mass media in the late 80ís early 90ís. Republican owners stopped follow up questions -- of the most powerful. Newz people therefore ask one question and are usually filibustered by a Republican crook and if they actually can, they MIGHT get in a second questions but then ... oh well look at the time....

So there are never any real answers, discussion, exploration...thatís why so many people here are so fucking dumb. Generations have grown up without seeing the type of exchange that you regularly see in your country.

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Response to nocoincidences (Original post)

Tue Aug 4, 2020, 11:50 PM

8. I love all these articles on the Jonathan Swan interview!

It sure as Hell Is what it IS, trump & you Did IT!

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Response to nocoincidences (Original post)

Wed Aug 5, 2020, 12:09 AM

10. Trump interviews self!

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Response to nocoincidences (Original post)

Wed Aug 5, 2020, 12:12 AM

11. Questions are Republicans' kryptonite. The most powerful question is WHY.

WHY did you march to a church and hold up a bible?
WHY did you say that youíre not responsible?
WHY did you say that it would only be 15 deaths?
WHY did you say you did a phenomenal job after more than 100,000 died from Covid?
WHY did you associate with pedophile Jeffrey Epstein?
WHY havenít you said a word about Russiaís bounty on American troops?
WHY did you target Hunter Biden when Ivanka and Jared have profited a hundredfold over Hunter Bidenís 100,000 earnings?
WHY? WHY? WHY?

He would

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