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Zorro

(15,740 posts)
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 12:15 AM Jan 2021

It's impeachable. It's likely illegal. It's a coup.

Opinion by Jennifer Rubin

When President Trump allegedly tried firing special prosecutor Robert S. Mueller III, refused to respond to lawful subpoenas during the investigation into the 2016 election and committed the other acts to obstruct justice documented in the Mueller report, he arguably violated his oath, broke the law and committed impeachable conduct.

When he tried to extort Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky (“I would like you to do us a favor though …”) to create dirt to use against now President-elect Joe Biden and stonewalled Congress’s demands for evidence, he again violated his oath, engaged in impeachable conduct and broke the law.

In neither case did Republicans recognize the facts before them. In neither case did they act to remove him. That prologue brings us to his telephone call with Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger on Saturday.

The Post reports: “President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to ‘find’ enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.” In the call, Trump asked Raffensperger to change the certified vote that was subject to multiple recounts: “So look. All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. Because we won the state.”

In fact he threatened him. The Post reports, “During their conversation, Trump issued a vague threat to both Raffensperger and Ryan Germany, the secretary of state’s general counsel, suggesting that if they don’t find that thousands of ballots in Fulton County have been illegally destroyed to block investigators — an allegation for which there is no evidence — they would be subject to criminal liability.” Trump, sounding like a mobster as he often does, said, “That’s a criminal offense. And you can’t let that happen. That’s a big risk to you and to Ryan, your lawyer.” Nice career, there Brad. Shame if anything happened to it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/01/03/its-impeachable-its-likely-illegal-its-coup/

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RKP5637

(67,107 posts)
1. And nothing happens to him! There are so many instances now, and nothing happens that gets right
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 12:22 AM
Jan 2021

to him ... because we have cowardly and complicit senate republicans! Hopefully NY will pickup after 1/20/2021 and justice might/will be done. He sets an example of do what you damn please, nothing will happen ... and then all of his pardons. Incredibly dangerous for the survival of a US democracy ... imagine if someone far smarter and cunning comes along and the precedent has been set ...

onetexan

(13,037 posts)
5. I think after Biden is sworn in the new AG will prosecute
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 04:12 AM
Jan 2021

Carl Bernstein has said the recording is the smoking gun. Its the nixon tapes deja vu.

gab13by13

(21,321 posts)
2. I don't think Trump's trying to use the military
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 12:26 AM
Jan 2021

is a wild conspiracy theory. The former Secretary's of Defense didn't just come out with a sternly worded warning on a whim.

Joachin Castro stated tonight that Trump is trying to use the military, he didn't just say that on a whim.

We need to be prepared for any and everything. We are witnessing Trump going through a nervous breakdown, and I'm only an internet psychiatrist but I can see the signs.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
8. Rubin is spot-on. This wasn't "urging." It was extortion, under threat of Trumped-up charges and..
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 01:01 PM
Jan 2021

violence because "people are very angry."

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