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Wed Mar 24, 2021, 01:30 AM

St. Martin de Porres School: White headmaster placed on leave after telling a Black student to kneel

St. Martin de Porres School: White headmaster placed on leave after telling a Black student to kneel and apologize 'the African way'
By Evan Simko-Bednarski, CNN 41 mins ago

The White headmaster of a Catholic school on Long Island has been placed on leave following reports that he had a Black student kneel in apology last month, calling it "the African way" to apologize.

The headmaster was temporarily removed from his job at St. Martin de Porres School in Hempstead, New York, after parent Trisha Paul went to the local press regarding her 11-year-old son's treatment at the school.

The incident was first reported by the New York Daily News.

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In an interview with CNN on Tuesday, Paul said she noticed her son seemed sad after school one day late last month. When she asked him what happened, he told her he'd been sent to the headmaster's office for working on an assignment in his Literature class during designated reading time.

Paul said her son's teacher took the assignment, tore it up, and brought her son to the headmaster's office. Once there, Paul said, the headmaster told her son to kneel before the teacher in apology.

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Reply St. Martin de Porres School: White headmaster placed on leave after telling a Black student to kneel (Original post)
Judi Lynn Mar 24 OP
The Magistrate Mar 24 #1
Judi Lynn Mar 25 #23
2naSalit Mar 24 #2
Hugh_Lebowski Mar 24 #3
Judi Lynn Mar 25 #22
Iggo Mar 24 #4
onetexan Mar 25 #18
dawg day Mar 24 #5
Kittycow Mar 24 #6
secondwind Mar 24 #7
Kittycow Mar 24 #9
Judi Lynn Mar 25 #19
Judi Lynn Mar 25 #20
Judi Lynn Mar 25 #21
Lilaclady Mar 24 #8
Judi Lynn Mar 25 #17
dalton99a Mar 24 #10
Judi Lynn Mar 25 #14
prodigitalson Mar 25 #26
3Hotdogs Mar 24 #11
Judi Lynn Mar 25 #15
3Hotdogs Mar 25 #25
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 24 #12
NNadir Mar 24 #13
Judi Lynn Mar 25 #16
NNadir Mar 25 #24
prodigitalson Mar 25 #27

Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Wed Mar 24, 2021, 01:36 AM

1. The Teacher Needs An Attitude Adjustment Too, Ma'am

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Response to The Magistrate (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 02:32 AM

23. Can't imagine how anyone could fix a wreck like him. Sadistic, racist liar.

What a shame a young man was forced to be exposed to his sickness.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Wed Mar 24, 2021, 01:57 AM

2. That's some messed up shit there...

He needs to not have that job. He is way too full of himself.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Wed Mar 24, 2021, 02:01 AM

3. Might've gotten away with it if he claimed it was 'the school way' ...

It being a Catholic school and such.

The African Way, though?

You gotta be kidding with that shit

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Response to Hugh_Lebowski (Reply #3)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 02:20 AM

22. He revealed himself as a totally dishonest fool. Unbelievable.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Wed Mar 24, 2021, 02:06 AM

4. Catholic School.

Yep, don't miss it one bit.

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Response to Iggo (Reply #4)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 01:57 AM

18. Yup. Product of that here too- alotta brainwashing.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Wed Mar 24, 2021, 02:12 AM

5. This was his terrible crime working on an assignment during reading time

he'd been sent to the headmaster's office for working on an assignment in his Literature class during designated reading time.

Paul said her son's teacher took the assignment, tore it up, and brought her son to the headmaster's office. Once there, Paul said, the headmaster told her son to kneel before the teacher in apology.


I went to parochial school decades ago, and remember that insistence on arbitrary enforcement of unspoken rules. It was deliberately designed to humiliate. Sad to see some headmasters and teachers still go for that, if only for SOME students.

(I bet you the pretty blonde student named Sarah Sullivan would be praised for "multitasking" if she did the same, and no, of course there was no blonde student named Sarah Sullivan in my 5th grade class-- you surely don't think I'd hold a grudge this long?)

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Response to dawg day (Reply #5)

Wed Mar 24, 2021, 03:59 AM

6. On a lighter note:

Heck, I'm still not over Sister Bernice Msrie taking away my mother's worn out lipstick case that she gave me to hold cuz I was scared to be in the first grade.

And that was over sixty years ago.

However, in the seventh grade, the parents banded together and had the nun removed from the classroom mid-year because she was so mean and unfair to the kids. I guess I was inured to it by then since I can't remember her name for the life of me.

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Response to Kittycow (Reply #6)

Wed Mar 24, 2021, 04:28 AM

7. When my parents separated, my mom was obliged to find a job.

My younger sister and I were placed in a Catholic boarding school in New Jersey. We were there for six years. My dad was a diplomat and so he couldn’t come visit so often. The first time he came, it was not a visiting day, and in my rush to leave the classroom to see my dad, I was running with one shoelace untied.

The nun scolded me, and made me wear the shoe on my head, as I walked to see my father. It was mortifying. I was 8-9 yrs old.

Am 74 today, and still feel the sting.

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Response to secondwind (Reply #7)

Wed Mar 24, 2021, 10:02 AM

9. That's terrible. :/

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Response to secondwind (Reply #7)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 02:01 AM

19. Sadistic! How could a child be expected to absorb that soul-crushing bullying, anyway? Damn.

Not a bit surprised you feel it, even now.

Doesn't make a bit of sense.

Can't imagine anyone would stoop to punish a child for running with an unlaced shoe. Hideous.

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Response to Kittycow (Reply #6)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 02:08 AM

20. I'd bet you have a mental block as a way of distancing from that abberational experience!

It seems sweet, and unexpectedly thoughtful to me that your mother arrived at the idea of giving you an article of hers to keep close to remind you of her concern and caring for you when you were anxious.

I really don't think there are many people with the presence of mind to do something kind and creative like that. What a shame the woman decided to use it to target and frighten you.

I don't get what that's all about. So weird.

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Response to dawg day (Reply #5)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 02:19 AM

21. If only some powerful authority could move to cleanse the ancient hostile emotional game-playing

these people inflict upon the trapped, helpless. students, and work to simply do their jobs honestly.

It can only confuse, frighten, and depress young ones, and turn them out into the world battered, and shaken, far less hopeful than they were when they arrived.

Their presence in the lives of students harms them. It doesn't make them better, stronger people to try so hard to scuff up and terrorize everyone but the worst two-faced brats!

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Wed Mar 24, 2021, 07:02 AM

8. Some things never change

I remember having to clean the convent or the church pews. In second grade while practicing in the church for first communion I got yanked out of line for walking too fast. My sister wore lipstick to confession one Saturday and the nun rubbed her lips dry trying to get the lipstick off. I am also 74.

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Response to Lilaclady (Reply #8)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 01:55 AM

17. That sociopathic behavior with children must hit them like a ton of bricks. Heavy handed. Horrid.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Wed Mar 24, 2021, 10:49 AM

10. John Patrick Holian, headmaster:


John Patrick Holian, headmaster of St. Martin de Porres Marianist School in Uniondale, in 2008. Credit: Newsday/Bruce Gilbert

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #10)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 01:50 AM

14. It helps to have a face to associate with his bizarre behavior around humans. Thank you.

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #10)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 07:38 PM

26. Headmaster Ritual

Mid-week on the playing fields
Sir thwacks you on the knees
Knees you in the groin
Elbows in the face
Bruises bigger than dinner plates
I want to go home
I don't want to stay

Headmaster Ritual
by The Smiths

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Wed Mar 24, 2021, 02:07 PM

11. I'll see those and raise you.....

Springfield, N.J., approx 1952. Confirmation class.

We were in the school hallway, reciting our Catechism in preparation for the bishop coming to confirm us. The fucking nun slammed a kid's head into the wall because he mispronounced a word.

The kid collapsed, out cold and we were ushered back into our classrooms. I don't know the extent of the kid's injury but there was blood on the wall when we left the classrooms that afternoon.

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Response to 3Hotdogs (Reply #11)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 01:51 AM

15. Jeezus. That has to be a first. She should have had to answer for that. Thanks.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Reply #15)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 07:16 AM

25. I don't know what the consequences were, if any. Confirmation was the following Saturday.

After that, there were no more classes, so I never saw any of the nuns again.

Legal charges would have been covered up -- if there even were any.

Med bills would have been paid, along with an assumption that they would have been donated back to the church.... unless it was a large amount for serious damages.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Wed Mar 24, 2021, 07:40 PM

12. What a jackass

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Wed Mar 24, 2021, 10:50 PM

13. Ah...Long Island...

...I grew up there...

Looking back...well...what can I say...what can I say?

Though it's shocking, I'm not entirely surprised.

When my wife went to Catholic school, a boy was locked in a closet with Barbie dolls for being effeminate.

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Response to NNadir (Reply #13)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 01:52 AM

16. Not only would that have traumatized him, but probably some of the sympathetic witnesses.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Reply #16)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 07:15 AM

24. Well, it certainly stuck with my wife. She can still talk about it nearly half a century later.

I can remember only a few things from elementary school myself, most all of them unpleasant.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 07:56 PM

27. Unruly boys who will not grow up must be taken in hand

Unruly boys
who will not grow up
must be taken in hand
unruly girls
who will not settle down
they must be taken in hand
A crack on the head
is what you get for not asking
and a crack on the head
is what you get for asking

Barbarism Begins at Home
Song by the Smiths

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