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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,234 posts)
Fri Dec 10, 2021, 02:33 PM Dec 2021

A single sentence that perfectly captures the utter madness of the Trump era

In an interview with Donald Trump earlier this week, conservative talk radio host Hugh Hewitt said something truly breathtaking.

"You know, Mr. President, you and I disagree about the election, but we agree on so much," Hewitt told Trump, segueing into a conversation about China's hypersonic missiles.

Talk about an other-than-that-how-was-the-play-Mrs. Lincoln moment!

That Hewitt uttered that line without irony is a telling window into how conservatives have found ways to rationalize Trump and his fundamentally anti-democratic attempts to undermine the faith of the American public in the 2020 election results.

-snip-

Hewitt's attempt to dismiss his disagreement with Trump over the election then as just another policy disagreement is laughable. This isn't Hewitt saying we should have stayed in Afghanistan and Trump saying we should have pulled American troops out. This is the former President of the United States refusing to accept the results of a national election.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/a-single-sentence-that-perfectly-captures-the-utter-madness-of-the-trump-era/ar-AARGMUp

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A single sentence that perfectly captures the utter madness of the Trump era (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2021 OP
I doubt the Pig even knows what hypersonic means. Thomas Hurt Dec 2021 #1
It's not just Hewitt and RW media, it's mostly the whole media landscape as far as the eye can Alexander Of Assyria Dec 2021 #2
Exactly NewHendoLib Dec 2021 #10
Including the author of this article SouthBayDem Dec 2021 #12
Press ignores or minimizes GOP crimes. Press makes false negative reports about Dems. Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #3
So it's up to us Dems to raise hell to the media wnylib Dec 2021 #5
Yes. But unfortunately many Americans are fine with what is happening. Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #11
Let's not give up before getting wnylib Dec 2021 #16
Do not give up. But we must address the reality of our intended audience. Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #17
I can't agree. They are creating wnylib Dec 2021 #18
We need research on the best way to reach those who are delusional. Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #19
I agree that professional psychologists wnylib Dec 2021 #20
Hewitt is cool w overthrowing democracy as long as it serves his CON goals. Too many sellouts. . .nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2021 #4
the bull-shit artists are just running their gum's !!! monkeyman1 Dec 2021 #6
If it were only talk. When RepubliQONners show you their real selves, believe them. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2021 #7
Sellouts? Hell, they're buy-ins! dchill Dec 2021 #8
They are all cowards, it is amazing how weak these people are. Escurumbele Dec 2021 #9
Shows that Hewitt and others would do anything..... paleotn Dec 2021 #13
Hewitt will end up like the rest of them, on the dung heap of history. Joinfortmill Dec 2021 #14
Husband: Okay, so you caught me sleeping with your sister... ThoughtCriminal Dec 2021 #15
 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
2. It's not just Hewitt and RW media, it's mostly the whole media landscape as far as the eye can
Fri Dec 10, 2021, 02:37 PM
Dec 2021

see to DU. Substitute Hewitt with…the entire corporate and MSM.

“Hewitt's attempt to dismiss his disagreement with Trump over the election then as just another policy disagreement is laughable. This isn't Hewitt saying we should have stayed in Afghanistan and Trump saying we should have pulled American troops out. This is the former President of the United States refusing to accept the results of a national election.”

Why the hell is that??

Irish_Dem

(47,453 posts)
3. Press ignores or minimizes GOP crimes. Press makes false negative reports about Dems.
Fri Dec 10, 2021, 03:26 PM
Dec 2021

The press is part of the GOP sociopathic system.

wnylib

(21,618 posts)
5. So it's up to us Dems to raise hell to the media
Fri Dec 10, 2021, 03:49 PM
Dec 2021

every time it happens. LOUDLY.

If it takes demonstrations on the street in front of media stations or newspaper offices, we need to push back hard in order to take back the narrative.

It's up to us to arouse and motivate people to see what is happening.

Irish_Dem

(47,453 posts)
11. Yes. But unfortunately many Americans are fine with what is happening.
Fri Dec 10, 2021, 04:20 PM
Dec 2021

The GOP is selling white supremacy, therefore a large segment of the population will support the sociopathic GOP and let them install an autocratic form of government. So simply telling Americans what is happening might not change things.

wnylib

(21,618 posts)
16. Let's not give up before getting
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 01:47 AM
Dec 2021

started, just because there are racist fools in the country.

MLK, John Lewis, Rosa Parks, and many others didn't. This is still the country that elected Obama twice and VP Harris at least once. Let's make sure it's more than once.

The idea is to fight back against the media for their lack of coverage of Biden's accomplishments and what they mean for ALL the people. Fight the media's chronic negative coverage of Biden and show that it is due to media loyalty to corporations over people. Even racists have financial problems now due to covid. Get their little minds off of racial hatred and engaged in financial well being for everyone.

Carry signs with factual info bytes about Biden's and the Dem Congress' focus on prosperity for the working and middle classes.

If we don't do our part to change the national messaging, how can any of us criticize Garland or Congress? We the people ARE the Democratic party. We the people ARE the government. It's our future that is at stake. We can't afford to sit silently and watch it fail.

wnylib

(21,618 posts)
18. I can't agree. They are creating
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 01:58 AM
Dec 2021

their own surreal "reality." We can drown that out with reality based messaging of our own.

Make it positive, upbeat, and persistent.

Irish_Dem

(47,453 posts)
19. We need research on the best way to reach those who are delusional.
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 02:08 AM
Dec 2021

And not in touch with reality.

And the best way to reach racist white supremacists.

So far these two groups have rejected or ignored reasonable messaging.
And our attempts to get them to face reality.

I am a mental health professional with 40 years experience.
Trying to change someone's opinion is often a tricky business.
Especially with deeply ingrained beliefs.

Complicated and difficult unless you know what you are doing.

I am just suggesting we don't keep doing what we have been doing that doesn't work.
But get some good advice from clinical and social psychologists to help us with a monumental task.


wnylib

(21,618 posts)
20. I agree that professional psychologists
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 02:51 AM
Dec 2021

and especially sociologists could be helpful in advising what messaging is effective, but for the population at large.

I am not interested in "reaching out" to the seriously deluded. That is the role of intensive therapy - if they admit to needing it. Politically, I believe that we need to lead with strong messaging that arouses positive feelings about what we can do and are doing for the people. I do not want to reach out to their imaginary reality. It is not possible or productive to reason with them.

I think we need to show, not tell. Just present ourselves, strongly, as we really are in contrast to what they have heard. Don't tell them what reality is, or get bogged down discussing it with them. Just show them by rallying people who are already with us and attracting those capable of joining us.

Escurumbele

(3,403 posts)
9. They are all cowards, it is amazing how weak these people are.
Fri Dec 10, 2021, 04:19 PM
Dec 2021

I like the analogy very much..."other-than-that-how-was-the-play-Mrs. Lincoln"...really good.

They are all afraid to go against the party, and they are all terrified of trump, and I would like to know why, what has the mafia buffoon done to inspire such fear.

paleotn

(17,989 posts)
13. Shows that Hewitt and others would do anything.....
Fri Dec 10, 2021, 05:09 PM
Dec 2021

and I mean ANYTHING to put fundigelical white people in complete and total control of everything. They would literally sell themselves t the devil for Handmaid's Tale light. Light at least for now. The stoning will come later.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,049 posts)
15. Husband: Okay, so you caught me sleeping with your sister...
Fri Dec 10, 2021, 11:21 PM
Dec 2021

But you can't leave me when we both completely agree that Chinese hypersonic missiles are a threat...

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