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milestogo

(16,829 posts)
Wed Jul 27, 2022, 06:12 PM Jul 2022

Scientists establish link between religious fundamentalism and brain damage

A study published in the journal Neuropsychologia has shown that religious fundamentalism is, in part, the result of a functional impairment in a brain region known as the prefrontal cortex. The findings suggest that damage to particular areas of the prefrontal cortex indirectly promotes religious fundamentalism by diminishing cognitive flexibility and openness—a psychology term that describes a personality trait which involves dimensions like curiosity, creativity, and open-mindedness.

Religious beliefs can be thought of as socially transmitted mental representations that consist of supernatural events and entities assumed to be real. Religious beliefs differ from empirical beliefs, which are based on how the world appears to be and are updated as new evidence accumulates or when new theories with better predictive power emerge. On the other hand, religious beliefs are not usually updated in response to new evidence or scientific explanations, and are therefore strongly associated with conservatism. They are fixed and rigid, which helps promote predictability and coherence to the rules of society among individuals within the group.

Religious fundamentalism refers to an ideology that emphasizes traditional religious texts and rituals and discourages progressive thinking about religion and social issues. Fundamentalist groups generally oppose anything that questions or challenges their beliefs or way of life. For this reason, they are often aggressive towards anyone who does not share their specific set of supernatural beliefs, and towards science, as these things are seen as existential threats to their entire worldview.

Since religious beliefs play a massive role in driving and influencing human behavior throughout the world, it is important to understand the phenomenon of religious fundamentalism from a psychological and neurological perspective. To investigate the cognitive and neural systems involved in religious fundamentalism, a team of researchers—led by Jordan Grafman of Northwestern University—conducted a study that utilized data from Vietnam War veterans that had been gathered previously. The vets were specifically chosen because a large number of them had damage to brain areas suspected of playing a critical role in functions related to religious fundamentalism. CT scans were analyzed comparing 119 vets with brain trauma to 30 healthy vets with no damage, and a survey that assessed religious fundamentalism was administered. While the majority of participants were Christians of some kind, 32.5% did not specify a particular religion.

Read more: https://www.alternet.org/2022/07/scientists-establish-link-between-religious-fundamentalism-and-brain-damage/

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Scientists establish link between religious fundamentalism and brain damage (Original Post) milestogo Jul 2022 OP
Not The Onion! intrepidity Jul 2022 #1
Absolutely!!! n/t RKP5637 Jul 2022 #2
Religion - dogmatic and rigid, organized religion - is an albatross on the neck of homo sapiens Moostache Jul 2022 #3
This, I like! IjustDontlikeRepugs Jul 2022 #8
Yes!!! n/t RKP5637 Jul 2022 #20
It doesn't explain why so many people have brain damage in the first place. milestogo Jul 2022 #4
I suspect God. n/t BWdem4life Jul 2022 #22
It's all part of his "plan"... Probatim Jul 2022 #25
The know stuff because they know stuff, don't need to know anything else. Thomas Hurt Jul 2022 #5
Sounds like republicans suffer the same illness. NT SWBTATTReg Jul 2022 #6
So, if enough of us self-lobotomize... unweird Jul 2022 #7
Oh boy! Faux pas Jul 2022 #9
been known for a long time that epileptics tend to be more religious. mopinko Jul 2022 #10
Not my daughter Racygrandma Jul 2022 #13
me either. devout atheist. mopinko Jul 2022 #15
Certain mental disorders make people prone to religious ideation milestogo Jul 2022 #18
epilepsy is strongly related to brain injury. mopinko Jul 2022 #19
The doctor says hers is genetic Racygrandma Jul 2022 #23
comes in lots of flavors. mopinko Jul 2022 #24
She did have a bad fall when she was a kid Racygrandma Jul 2022 #26
i was told it's the tendency to develop it FROM a head injury is genetic. mopinko Jul 2022 #27
Religion is worse for you then we thought Farmer-Rick Jul 2022 #11
I don't think brain damage is the right description. I would bet that in most cases, that part of Doodley Jul 2022 #12
Yeah, vets may have brain injuries milestogo Jul 2022 #14
149 is a small sample size for statistics. Intuitively, this sounds about right. mjvpi Jul 2022 #16
K n R ! Thanks for posting! JoeOtterbein Jul 2022 #17
So to consider interventional prayer, we must also consider God's plan for the universe. 3Hotdogs Jul 2022 #21

Moostache

(9,897 posts)
3. Religion - dogmatic and rigid, organized religion - is an albatross on the neck of homo sapiens
Wed Jul 27, 2022, 06:31 PM
Jul 2022

There are differences between a searching, flexible spirituality and a dogmatic, rigid and inflexible fundamentalist approach to religion. One attempts to use the best of the tenets and practices of a given tradition and the other seeks to strangle anyone with the temerity to challenge orthodoxy.

If humanity is to evolve and survive, an absolute must is a maturing of the species' perception and understanding of the world to shake off the explanations and myths of our past in favor of a deeper, many times more nuanced understanding of reality.

For one small example - prayer. Prayer is self-talk. Self-talk can and does have psychological benefits, but not because a supernatural sky daddy received a telepathic message, compared its requested outcome against the existing divine cosmic plan; and upon further consideration, decided to alter and revise said original plan to accommodate the petitions of many billions of people on a constant basis.

Logically, there can be a "divine plan" or there can be "intercessional prayer", but not both. If prayer can influence the divine will, then the divine plan is more of a rough draft pending edits than an actual blueprint - BUT...if there really IS a plan, it can't be changed so that Susie can get an "A" in math instead of the deserved "C" that her actual efforts and skills would earn by divination in the first place.

Conservative or Liberal, reformed or fundamentalist, Northern Baptist conference of 1872 or Northern Baptist conference of 1865....none of it really matters in the end. ALL supernatural beliefs are by definition outside of and beyond observable reality. They should have ZERO influence of credibility in the day-to-day affairs of homo sapiens and the exact same lack of input on decisions of state or science. Giving undue influence and veto vote to the mystical claims based on several thousand year old goat-herder myths and ideas is holding back the species.

Shake off the night-terrors of the species' infancy and the scary time on the savannahs instead of the jungle canopy. Only when we advance beyond our inherent and evolutionary greed and fears can we learn the path to true advancement. Allowing people to champion the stern sky-daddy hypothesis of eternal spying and disapproval of who puts what private part where, when and with whom is lunacy.

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
4. It doesn't explain why so many people have brain damage in the first place.
Wed Jul 27, 2022, 06:31 PM
Jul 2022

The description fits, but it doesn't really explain causality.

unweird

(2,554 posts)
7. So, if enough of us self-lobotomize...
Wed Jul 27, 2022, 06:36 PM
Jul 2022

… we’ll fit right in with the conservative religious nut jobs.

Nahh, I’ll stay unweird.

Racygrandma

(109 posts)
13. Not my daughter
Wed Jul 27, 2022, 08:00 PM
Jul 2022

She is epileptic and definitely not religious. Her daughter, my granddaughter was going to a Penticostal church and she called me being very worried. Nope, very worried.

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
18. Certain mental disorders make people prone to religious ideation
Wed Jul 27, 2022, 09:16 PM
Jul 2022

but I don't know if that has anything to do with the brain damage issue.

mopinko

(70,261 posts)
19. epilepsy is strongly related to brain injury.
Wed Jul 27, 2022, 09:42 PM
Jul 2022

both my and my youngest child's seizure were caused by head injuries.

Racygrandma

(109 posts)
23. The doctor says hers is genetic
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 10:54 AM
Jul 2022

He said if it happens during sleep or early in the morning then it is genetic

Racygrandma

(109 posts)
26. She did have a bad fall when she was a kid
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 11:56 AM
Jul 2022

We had what they called an "inland hurricane", lights of course went out. We were hunkered down in the basement and she fell down the stairs. Called 911 they said "STAY HOME", so we did. Sun came up and trees down everywhere, no driving down that road. He got out later in the day to emergency. She never passed out or anything.

mopinko

(70,261 posts)
27. i was told it's the tendency to develop it FROM a head injury is genetic.
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 12:14 PM
Jul 2022

i only realized that the hallucinations i'd had for a decade were seizures from having my head bashed badly, accidentally, when my youngest got the same dx. she saw ppl following her out of the corner of her eye. tests said ptsd til she started having gran mal seizures.
localized to where her skull got cracked and we didnt know.

Farmer-Rick

(10,216 posts)
11. Religion is worse for you then we thought
Wed Jul 27, 2022, 07:03 PM
Jul 2022

"The data suggests that damage to the vmPFC indirectly promotes religious fundamentalism by suppressing both cognitive flexibility and openness.

These findings are important because they suggest that impaired functioning in the prefrontal cortex—whether from brain trauma, a psychological disorder, a drug or alcohol addiction, or simply a particular genetic profile—can make an individual susceptible to religious fundamentalism. And perhaps in other cases, extreme religious indoctrination harms the development or proper functioning of the prefrontal regions in a way that hinders cognitive flexibility and openness."

Religious indoctrination can harm the prefrontal regions.

Doodley

(9,142 posts)
12. I don't think brain damage is the right description. I would bet that in most cases, that part of
Wed Jul 27, 2022, 07:27 PM
Jul 2022

the brain never developed normally in the first place. "Damage" suggest an impairment to something that was correctly functioning.

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
14. Yeah, vets may have brain injuries
Wed Jul 27, 2022, 08:06 PM
Jul 2022

but that can't be the case for such a large portion of the population or it would there would be medical evidence.

3Hotdogs

(12,435 posts)
21. So to consider interventional prayer, we must also consider God's plan for the universe.
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 12:35 AM
Jul 2022

God knows everything. God is perfect, so that plan He had for the universe must also be perfect. Now, if we convince Sky Daddy to change the perfect plan He had, then we are to accept that His plan was not perfect after all. Next, we gotta consider that He knew what was gonna happen and there was no need for the interventional prayer, since He wasn't gonna stick with Plan A in the first place.

Then, we don't need Pastor Gotz, since it has already been decided if your ass is gonna roast or play the harp.

The only reason for me to fear Hell, is because my neighbors are going to be Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, Ralph Reed, Jimmy Swaggart and on and on.

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