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Zorro

(15,740 posts)
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 11:11 AM Feb 2023

Judge Gives Trump Lawyers Second Chance in New York Trial Showdown

Though Trump's legal team has been exceedingly evasive, a New York judge is giving them more time to cooperate ahead of the crucial trial involving his businesses.

After exhausting a New York judge with incessant lying and legal delay games, the Trump family will get a second chance to answer a lawsuit from the New York Attorney General that threatens to bankrupt the real estate empire that bears the ex-president’s name.

“Whatever we do today, I am determined to start the trial on October 2, 2023, come hell or high water. And pardon my French,” Justice Arthur F. Engoron said in a Manhattan court on Wednesday.

After filing reality-defying court documents to defend the Trumps against Attorney General Letitia James’ bank fraud lawsuit, the increasingly large cadre of lawyers representing former President Donald Trump, his real estate empire, and the adult children he made executives there now have until mid-February to come up with better answers.

For example, that process could start with lawyers admitting that the Trump Organization actually exists—something Trump denied in a sworn, signed statement last week as part of his defense.

"In my 35 years practicing law, I have never, never... seen a pleading with such excess verbiage as the 300-page-or-so answers of the 15-or-so answers to the complaint," the judge remarked.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/judge-gives-trump-lawyers-second-chance-in-new-york-trial-showdown-with-attorney-general-letitia-james
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Judge Gives Trump Lawyers Second Chance in New York Trial Showdown (Original Post) Zorro Feb 2023 OP
so, assuming this sworn response.... getagrip_already Feb 2023 #1
Bullshit in legal pleadings isn't perjury. There are other sanctions, though, Ocelot II Feb 2023 #2
LOL SoCalDavidS Feb 2023 #3

getagrip_already

(14,764 posts)
1. so, assuming this sworn response....
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 11:18 AM
Feb 2023

is substantively different than the previous one, does the judge just ignore the previous responses?

It would seem to be a pretty sure case that they committed perjury.

Does the judge just ignore that? Does he/she wait until after the trial to address it?

Ocelot II

(115,732 posts)
2. Bullshit in legal pleadings isn't perjury. There are other sanctions, though,
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 11:33 AM
Feb 2023

and this judge appears to have given TFG's lawyers just enough rope to hang themselves with - they have been ordered to amend their answer with truthful defenses and allegations. I believe the judge is also trying to simplify the factual issues for trial by forcing TFG to eliminate the extraneous garbage (most jurisdictions have page limits and requirements that pleadings be clear and concise). The penalties for nonfactual pleadings are found under Rule 11 in federal court, and corresponding rules in state jurisdictions. The same lawyer, Alina Habba, just got fined almost $1 million (jointly and severally) in a federal court in Florida for filing a frivolous lawsuit. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/19/us/politics/trump-clinton-lawsuit-fine.html

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