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infullview

(983 posts)
Sat Feb 18, 2023, 10:21 AM Feb 2023

Roald Dahl books rewritten to remove language deemed offensive

Roald Dahl books rewritten to remove language deemed offensive

Roald Dahl’s children’s books are being rewritten to remove language deemed offensive by the publisher Puffin.

Puffin has hired sensitivity readers to rewrite chunks of the author’s text to make sure the books “can continue to be enjoyed by all today”, resulting in extensive changes across Dahl’s work.

Edits have been made to descriptions of characters’ physical appearances. The word “fat” has been cut from every new edition of relevant books, while the word “ugly” has also been culled, the Daily Telegraph reported.

Augustus Gloop in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory is now described as “enormous”. In The Twits, Mrs Twit is no longer “ugly and beastly” but just “beastly”.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/feb/18/roald-dahl-books-rewritten-to-remove-language-deemed-offensive

Give me a f'ing break!! I'm sure Dajl is rolling in his grave. I don't often side with repukes, but this looks like "woke" to me.

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Roald Dahl books rewritten to remove language deemed offensive (Original Post) infullview Feb 2023 OP
Publishers did something similar to "Dr. Doolittle". no_hypocrisy Feb 2023 #1
This is ridiculous. FalloutShelter Feb 2023 #2
It's not thoughts and actions being marybourg Feb 2023 #7
Terrible actions. When do we learn that we can't change the ugliness of life by calling sinkingfeeling Feb 2023 #3
Lots of precedence for such 'literary editing'; 200 years easily sanatanadharma Feb 2023 #4
I dont have a problem with it - social mores change Blues Heron Feb 2023 #5
I think it's funny they think enormous is acceptable. jimfields33 Feb 2023 #6
"Enormous" is not considerer pejorative. "Fat" is. marybourg Feb 2023 #8
So if I say, "wow! Your enormous" jimfields33 Feb 2023 #17
These are children's books, and yes, marybourg Feb 2023 #23
Considering Dahl was a rabid racist and anti-Semite, these edits are tame. Nt Fiendish Thingy Feb 2023 #9
Anti-Semite? Archae Feb 2023 #24
Long, long history of anti-semitism Fiendish Thingy Feb 2023 #26
A similar treatment would shorten the works of Limbaugh or Coulter Harker Feb 2023 #10
Limbaugh and Coulter are not being read to children. marybourg Feb 2023 #11
That's good. n/t Harker Feb 2023 #12
Rewriting an author's works without their permission SCantiGOP Feb 2023 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author Easterncedar Feb 2023 #15
I agree with you. infullview Feb 2023 #18
I don't like arguing for censorship Easterncedar Feb 2023 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author Easterncedar Feb 2023 #14
Bowdlerizing DavidDvorkin Feb 2023 #16
Sensitivity editors however Easterncedar Feb 2023 #19
That's yet another reason I'm glad I switched to self-publishing. DavidDvorkin Feb 2023 #20
What to do? Easterncedar Feb 2023 #21
This isn't OK. Scrivener7 Feb 2023 #25
I am rethinking my earlier position Easterncedar Feb 2023 #27

no_hypocrisy

(46,445 posts)
1. Publishers did something similar to "Dr. Doolittle".
Sat Feb 18, 2023, 10:27 AM
Feb 2023

Example: Severe editing where Dr. Doolittle meets an African prince whose grand desire is for his face to be bleached white so he can court a princess who is European/Caucasian like the Grimm Fairy Tales. And the uproar when the doctor succeeds.

Politically incorrect? Perhaps. But it is the author's original text.

FalloutShelter

(11,959 posts)
2. This is ridiculous.
Sat Feb 18, 2023, 10:28 AM
Feb 2023

I am an author and sometimes I ascribe terrible thoughts and actions to my terrible characters. Are we now to censor the character development central to our storytelling. Are our
villains not going to use bad or offensive language?!

sinkingfeeling

(51,549 posts)
3. Terrible actions. When do we learn that we can't change the ugliness of life by calling
Sat Feb 18, 2023, 10:35 AM
Feb 2023

things by 'pretty' words?

sanatanadharma

(3,770 posts)
4. Lots of precedence for such 'literary editing'; 200 years easily
Sat Feb 18, 2023, 10:44 AM
Feb 2023

Lots of precedence for such 'literary editing', the Bible for example.
Who can know the truth?
Easy when you are the editor with a pre-judged list of 'unacceptables' .

Blues Heron

(5,975 posts)
5. I dont have a problem with it - social mores change
Sat Feb 18, 2023, 10:54 AM
Feb 2023

Its a new edition not a rewrite. Click bait to call it a rewrite.

jimfields33

(16,379 posts)
6. I think it's funny they think enormous is acceptable.
Sat Feb 18, 2023, 10:59 AM
Feb 2023

If they go down this path, they need to ensure another rewrite won’t be needed next year.

marybourg

(12,657 posts)
23. These are children's books, and yes,
Sat Feb 18, 2023, 03:31 PM
Feb 2023

“the new neighbor was enormous “, is not the same as “the new neighbor was fat”.

Archae

(46,393 posts)
24. Anti-Semite?
Sat Feb 18, 2023, 11:36 PM
Feb 2023

I know his original version of the "Oompa-Loompas" were African Pygmies, but how was he anti-Semitic?

Harker

(14,167 posts)
10. A similar treatment would shorten the works of Limbaugh or Coulter
Sat Feb 18, 2023, 11:09 AM
Feb 2023

to a few pages each.

ETA... If a book can't withstand the changes in readership, it deserves to go unread.

SCantiGOP

(13,881 posts)
13. Rewriting an author's works without their permission
Sat Feb 18, 2023, 12:11 PM
Feb 2023

is one step below banning it.
Fortunately, the original editions will always be available.

Response to SCantiGOP (Reply #13)

infullview

(983 posts)
18. I agree with you.
Sat Feb 18, 2023, 01:56 PM
Feb 2023

Removing societal context from the period in which the book was written is a perversion of history. We were not a perfect society early on Erasing the remnants sociological influences that marked the time in which the work was written removes that window into the past that shows where we were and how far forward we've gone. You can say what you will, but this is a bastardization of that work and should never be done, and only serves to remake the work so the publisher can sell more books! Well, to them I say Fuck you!

Easterncedar

(2,405 posts)
22. I don't like arguing for censorship
Sat Feb 18, 2023, 03:03 PM
Feb 2023

But in some cases it seems we are left with ether throwing out the whole work as not fit for children or altering it. Honestly, I think it isn’t a question that can be answered by easy generalization.

Response to infullview (Original post)

Easterncedar

(2,405 posts)
19. Sensitivity editors however
Sat Feb 18, 2023, 02:04 PM
Feb 2023

Last edited Sat Feb 18, 2023, 02:46 PM - Edit history (1)

Two academics I am in conversation with, one an anthropologist and one a translator of African literature, have had their work interfered with by sensitivity editors who have no grounding in or understanding of the material, and seem to exist only for protecting the publishers. Some of their objections are so petty and ham handed and laughably ignorant, and in some cases so sexist and racist in themselves, that it’s clear that the pendulum has swung itself beyond equilibrium and into chaos.

Looking for the golden mean.

Easterncedar

(2,405 posts)
21. What to do?
Sat Feb 18, 2023, 02:53 PM
Feb 2023

Last edited Tue Feb 21, 2023, 05:01 PM - Edit history (1)

A minister I know loathes the King James Bible, particularly because it says “thou shalt not kill” when he thinks it should say “thou shalt not murder”. He says it traumatizes soldiers.

I honestly don’t know what to make of this.

Easterncedar

(2,405 posts)
27. I am rethinking my earlier position
Tue Feb 21, 2023, 05:00 PM
Feb 2023

Some of the changes do seem perfectly absurd to me. The personhood of Oompa-loompas for instance.

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