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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,071 posts)
Thu May 4, 2023, 09:21 PM May 2023

Proud Boys Verdict Is a Rebuttal to Those Claiming Jan. 6 Wasn't an Insurrection

In an all-too-common alternative reality, the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol was merely a sightseeing group that got a little over its skis. Or it was a Democratic “false flag” operation meant to make Republicans look bad. Or Antifa infiltrated the good-natured, good-government groups and lit the kindling that left the Capitol shattered. No one—let alone democracy itself—was ever at risk, the death and injury tolls are totally bogus, and anyone suggesting it was an insurrection is just fake news.

Well, that fanciful hogwash once again fell apart. A federal jury here in Washington on Thursday convicted four more far-right Proud Boys—the so-called Donald Trump’s Army—on charges of seditious conspiracy, a crime dating back to the Civil War era when secessionist Southerners tried to break the Union government. (A fifth Proud Boy was found guilty on lesser charges but was found not guilty on seditious conspiracy charges.) Those convictions follow two other trials of members of a separate but equally noxious group, the Oath Keepers.

Put simply, the Department of Justice is now 3-and-0 in its most serious cases against the leaders who orchestrated and carried out a plan meant to overturn the results of the 2020 elections and to install its loser, then-President Donald Trump, in the White House for another four years despite a deafening loss. It is entirely fair to call the planning and execution of Jan. 6 what it was: an insurrection.

At least 10 ringleaders of the assault on Capitol Hill have now added their names to an inglorious list of those convicted of seditious conspiracy that includes Egyptian cleric Sheikh Omar Abdel-Rahman and nine followers who in 1995 were convicted of plotting to blow up the United Nations, an FBI office, and two New York tunnels; a group of white supremacists who in 1988 planned to establish an all-white nation in the Pacific Northwest, while plotting to kill an FBI agent and judge; and Oscar Lopez Rivera, who was found guilty in 1981 in a bombing campaign in the 1970s and ‘80s to push Puerto Rican independence. In other words, these are among the most serious threats to the United States you can summon.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/proud-boys-verdict-rebuttal-those-200635424.html

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Proud Boys Verdict Is a Rebuttal to Those Claiming Jan. 6 Wasn't an Insurrection (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2023 OP
I like this posting republianmushroom May 2023 #1
Absolutely. We need to all start referencing J6 in those terms. onecaliberal May 2023 #2
this is a big deal. the conspiracy was proven in court. mopinko May 2023 #3
Unfortunately the verdict won't stop the crazies: Otterdaemmerung May 2023 #4
The GQPers cannot be convinced MissMillie May 2023 #5

mopinko

(70,144 posts)
3. this is a big deal. the conspiracy was proven in court.
Thu May 4, 2023, 10:04 PM
May 2023

now it’s just a matter of rounding all of them up.
different ball game now.

MissMillie

(38,562 posts)
5. The GQPers cannot be convinced
Sat May 6, 2023, 09:51 AM
May 2023

From the article:

And yet, it may not matter to the hardcore denialists who make up at least a quarter of the current Republican Party. The closed-loop right-wing media environment has conditioned the hardcore audience to ignore such facts and insist this is all somehow the fault of Democrats. Their fantasies might be tough to drown, but it’s getting harder and harder for anyone to keep them afloat given the crushing consistency of prosecutors’ cases.


The RWNJs (over at the site we don't name) are convinced that the only reasons the DOJ got a conviction against the Proud Boys are:

1) There can never be an unbiased jury in DC; and

2) The courts (judges) are rigged against them.

Of course, there's not one of them that sat in the court and heard the evidence presented against the convicted conspirators, or heard any of the testimony. The defendants testified that their actions were (essentially) on orders from TFG.

That doesn't matter to them. They really believe these Proud Boys are not guilty of anything, that the "Deep State" is prosecuting political prisoners and that they can't get a fair shake because of biased juries.
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