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flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 02:55 PM Jul 2012

Social media mind games - Manipulation using social media

http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/2/6fa7d4ee-d6bb-11e1-ba60-00144feabdc0.html#axzz221qvhIw2

Last week, Holiday published the first book that sets out to blow the whistle on all the darkest arts of spinning the social media, under the catchy title Trust Me, I’m Lying: Confessions of a Media Manipulator.

By any standards, this is an astonishing, disturbing book. Holiday has worked for several years as a self-proclaimed media manipulator, running campaigns for companies such as American Apparel. He is now intent on revealing all the tricks that his ilk use to influence – if not control – us via the social media. Unsurprisingly, many of these stories are chilling. He describes, for example, how media manipulators and a hungry blogosphere routinely pervert the political process, creating the kind of gimmicks seen in the Republican presidential nomination race earlier this year (remember Herman Cain, Michele Bachmann and so on?). The stories of his antics in the celebrity world are also shocking (one particularly memorable scene describes how Holiday placed posters in Los Angeles, deliberately defaced them and then sent indignant posts to blogs about the “vandalism” under false names to get a storm of publicity for his friend, the author Tucker Max).

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Moreover, this is not the first point in history when mob rule has driven the media. In the 19th century, when American papers started marketing themselves on the street for the first time, the so-called “yellow press” was as sensational as the social media today – and as easily manipulated. However, that earlier wild phase of journalism later self-corrected, to a degree, when papers such as the New York Times started to sell themselves as credible alternative sources of news as the public got tired of excessive drama.

Perhaps that counter-reaction will happen again; after all, social media is still a young phenomenon. And Holiday says a key reason he wrote this book is that he hopes to start an outcry about media manipulation – and thus another backlash. But what makes 2012 different from 1912 is that not only can news now spread with stunning speed, but corporate power is better organised than ever before. The more that modern society becomes addicted to quick-fix information and instant media gratification, the greater the risk that a new generation grows up with very different ideas about what is “real”. That may not matter (much) for Detroit; but it has dangerous consequences for politics as a whole. Particularly when the US is facing so many profound economic challenges – and a potentially crucial (and manipulated) set of election campaigns.
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flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
2. It's hard to forsee the manipulation that might happen leading up to the elections
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 02:59 PM
Jul 2012

We had better be ready with a critical eye, I might get this book.

patrice

(47,992 posts)
5. I hope I can get it on my Kindle, so I can share it with Face Book. MUST not underestimate the
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 03:14 PM
Jul 2012

importance of this topic.

I'll bet you have had some experiences with this stuff. I know I have and I just now realized that I should be keeping a personal log of this stuff.

The only solution I can think of is to call ourselves and others (respectfully and rationally) to account for honesty and ethics. We NEED to be doing this on an ongoing basis.

Thanks VERY much for this post, flamingdem!

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
4. Ha ha, we can't trust this guy at ALL!
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 03:11 PM
Jul 2012

It might be enough to read the reviews and get the drift of the idea.

Who has time to read with all this social media to consume!

I am a snacker these days and don't read whole books anymore. Plus, why pay
The idea is what I want -- that people can be easily manipulated by social media
and if you grow up with that as your baseline -- people under 30 get most of their
"news" on Facebook for example, then they won't have the same critical thinking
as someone who read newspapers where a certain standard is demanded, but
your mileage may vary.. it's always up to the reader to research and the web
gives us that ability.

patrice

(47,992 posts)
6. And you're trying to manipulate us into . . . . Isn't that the nature of the medium? The point is to
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 03:16 PM
Jul 2012

KNOW this and make rational honest personal decisions about it.

patrice

(47,992 posts)
7. BTW you're going to KNOW what I'm trying to manipulate you into because I'm putting my NAME on it.nt
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 03:21 PM
Jul 2012

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
8. Upon further reflection I think this book might be worth
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 03:43 PM
Jul 2012

purchasing, if nothing else we can see how he develops his manipulations.

Good catch you made about how easy it is to sway, forums are rife with that.

Someone came up with the term "forum slide" to describe how an influencer can move the discussion.

Check out this post about that:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021032462

patrice

(47,992 posts)
9. There was another HUGE thread on that Cointelpro material last week. Will get that link for you.
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 03:48 PM
Jul 2012

I thought it pretty interesting for how many people seemed to be saying that discussing manipulation = being manipulated.

Back in a bit . . .

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1004633

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
10. Very interesting, I remember instances of some of these techniques
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 04:18 PM
Jul 2012

It's better to know what's going on, that's for sure, it will only get more honed over time.

Thanks!

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