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NNadir

(33,534 posts)
Fri Jan 26, 2024, 11:45 PM Jan 2024

Pentagon Makes It Official: U.S. Industrial Decline Is Undermining National Defense

Pentagon Makes It Official: U.S. Industrial Decline Is Undermining National Defense

Forbes.

Some excerpts:

Earlier this month the Department of Defense released its first-ever National Defense Industrial Strategy, setting forth a framework for revitalizing the sinews of American economic strength most critical to military preparedness...

... The Biden strategy recommends many of the same steps, reflecting concern over industrial base weaknesses that became apparent during the global pandemic and subsequent efforts to support Ukraine’s military campaign against Russian invaders.

Both documents single out the sorry state of the U.S. commercial shipbuilding industry, which largely ceased to produce commercial oceangoing vessels even as the U.S. became heavily dependent on ocean transit for supplies of everything from pharmaceuticals to rare earths to digital devices...

...The pace of submarine production at the nation’s two nuclear shipyards is lagging due to workforce challenges and a fragile domestic supply chain that contains numerous “single points of failure...”

... Shipbuilding is a particularly egregious example of how Washington has allowed U.S. industrial strength to erode, but there are analogous challenges in every sector that produces industrial goods relevant to defense.

For instance, only one domestic smelter remains that produces aluminum of sufficient purity to build military aircraft, and planners discovered during the Iraq war that there was only one steel mill making plates suitable for armoring trucks...


I noticed this sort of thing during the Shanghai shutdown when two important instruments in our labs went down and both suppliers of the instruments informed me that they could not get chips to repair the instruments.

One of the companies that couldn't get chips was a spin-off of Hewlett Packard. I told my rep - who is by the way an very nice person who I like a great deal - "you people used to be Hewlett Packard and you can't get a circuit board in less than two months?"

Our industrial decline is connected with our rather odious cultural practice of valuing bean counters over engineers. It's just not on the right, by the way. If one discusses energy issues here in the Ennui and Excuses forum, one sees bean counting - and not particularly insightful or even remotely intelligent bean counting - riding roughshod over both decency and sustainability.

We need engineers, not MBA's, and we need a highly trained, efficient and productive work force, investments in people as opposed to "financial instruments."
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Pentagon Makes It Official: U.S. Industrial Decline Is Undermining National Defense (Original Post) NNadir Jan 2024 OP
Well, d'uh! SharonAnn Jan 2024 #1
Yeah, that's what the guy who posted the article on Linkedin said. NNadir Jan 2024 #2
Unions like the USW have been saying this since the 1970s. It took them doc03 Jan 2024 #3
The free market will fix it BootinUp Jan 2024 #4
Between WWI and WWII during the Great Depression the shipbuilding industry suffered a similar fate. summer_in_TX Jan 2024 #5
This is what led to Boeing's current problems Ferryboat Jan 2024 #6

doc03

(35,358 posts)
3. Unions like the USW have been saying this since the 1970s. It took them
Sat Jan 27, 2024, 12:15 AM
Jan 2024

50 years to figure that out.

summer_in_TX

(2,741 posts)
5. Between WWI and WWII during the Great Depression the shipbuilding industry suffered a similar fate.
Sat Jan 27, 2024, 01:47 AM
Jan 2024

One of my favorite novelists from that era, British author and aeronautical engineer during the early days of flying Nevil Shute, wrote a fictional account that detailed how hard it was to rebuild the entire industry in time to deal with Hitler. I no longer remember the title, and my library which used to have a good collection of Shute's work no longer does.

The disinvestment in the American infrastructure pushed by the Club for Growth and the GOP caused skimping and scrimping that damaged much of American manufacturing. And then there was outsourcing. Disinvesting in American industries and skills. The ability and tools used in fine machining are yet another area where we used to excel but lost those skills to other countries. A whole lot of shortsightedness.

Ferryboat

(922 posts)
6. This is what led to Boeing's current problems
Sat Jan 27, 2024, 09:10 AM
Jan 2024

McDonald Douglas and Boeing merged.
MD corporate takes over head office, shoving the Boeing engineers out the back.

Boeing was a group of engineers who built planes with an eye towards quality. Not anymore.

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