"A man will say he's a feminist but he doesn't wipe the counters": Lyz Lenz on the beauty of divorce
"A man will say he's a feminist but he doesn't wipe the counters": Lyz Lenz on the beauty of divorceIn "This American Ex-Wife," Lenz celebrates the freedom and free time women get from ditching their husbands
By AMANDA MARCOTTE
Senior Writer
PUBLISHED FEBRUARY 20, 2024 5:45AM (EST)
(Salon) The public discourse right now is being hijacked by one of those periodic temper tantrums over the existence of unmarried women. Mainstream media churns out a seemingly endless number of articles complaining that women allegedly refuse to get married, and pitying men left alone by those stubbornly single ladies. Republicans have started to question the longstanding tolerance of no-fault divorce laws, arguing that it's wrong to let women end marriages because they're unhappy. Pop star Taylor Swift has become a hate object on the right simply by being publicly happy while single in her 30s.
So there's no better time for a book like "This American Ex-Wife: How I Ended My Marriage and Started My Life," by feminist author Lyz Lenz. In this breezy but thought-provoking book, Lenz demolishes the standard view that divorce is a tragedy, especially for women. Instead, she shares the dirty little secret many ex-wives come to know: Divorce can be freedom. The harried and sexless divorced mother stereotype is used to scare women, Lenz argues, but for many, reality looks much different with more free time, more control over life, and, blessedly, a cleaner house.
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The timing on your book is fortuitous because we're in the middle of a media pressure campaign, demanding that more women get married. Even the Washington Post editorial board begged women to get married, even to men who voted for Donald Trump.
....There are a lot of cultural factors at play here. This isn't the first time, right? You can go back to Jimmy Carter and the Moynihan report. Even in the 1920s, there were high-profile flapper divorces and, everybody's like, oh my God, society is crumbling. Women just need to get married. We've been here before. If forcing women to get married solved our social problems, we wouldn't be here again. But there are a growing number of women opting out of marriage altogether, and even opting out of the dating pool. It's highly destabilizing to people who make policy and look at trends. And it's like, my dude, just fund a social safety net.
One of the biggest segments of divorce is gray divorce. All these retirees who were told if you just stick it out, then you'll be happy in the end. They're getting to the end and they're not happy. They're saying, this is not how I'm gonna spend my one wild and precious life. We were also forced to see it in the pandemic. All those Rube Goldberg contraptions we used to make our marriages equal, like hiring a house cleaner, the nanny, and family who lives close by, were stripped away. All of a sudden women were forced to stay in their homes with their kids and their partner who supposedly loved them. But he was like locking himself in the office, doing Zoom work, while you're doing homeschooling and managing the kids and, like, also doing your own work and also cooking for everybody. ..................(more)
https://www.salon.com/2024/02/20/a-man-will-say-hes-afeminist-but-he-doesnt-wipe-the-counters-lyz-lenz-celebrates/
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CousinIT
(9,694 posts)Make what you will of it: https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/may/25/women-happier-without-children-or-a-spouse-happiness-expert
We do have some good longitudinal data following the same people over time, but I am going to do a massive disservice to that science and just say: if youre a man, you should probably get married; if youre a woman, dont bother.
Men benefited from marriage because they calmed down, he said. You take less risks, you earn more money at work, and you live a little longer. She, on the other hand, has to put up with that, and dies sooner than if she never married. The healthiest and happiest population subgroup are women who never married or had children, he said.
Dolans latest book, Happy Ever After, cites evidence from the American Time Use Survey (ATUS), which compared levels of pleasure and misery in unmarried, married, divorced, separated and widowed individuals.
As far as the MAGAts and Talibangelicals, they can go f*ck themselves.
Wonder Why
(4,168 posts)LudwigPastorius
(10,216 posts)It just seems longer.
Diamond_Dog
(33,624 posts)That is a great line. The pinnacle of what women are pressured to be in our society.
Great article. 1000 Recs.
Fullduplexxx
(8,101 posts)Wonder Why
(4,168 posts)we got married 52 years ago to not work. I told her it was her choice and we both lived frugally on my small pay willingly sacrificing because our love was more important than money.
When I retired, sure, I didn't do as much around the house as she does sometimes because of laziness and sometimes because after a lifetime, I see some things as not being as necessary as she. On the other hand, she dumps the financial issues on my no matter how much I told her that when I die, she will have to do it. She has learned what to do but won't so I take the burden. Same with repairs around the house. All in all following years of long days and flying back and forth on business late at night and hating how much I missed her and the children combined with a lifetime of doing what she wouldn't or couldn't do, I'd say our lives have been even and fair. We are happy together and still in love.
I wish all good women and men could exchange places and lives to fully understand what the other goes through. Sue, many men abuse women and women have been denied opportunities because of their sex but good people don't do that to others; they make the best of life while trying to change it; they think about and become determined to work through issues and look for someone who thinks like that instead of looking short term based on beauty and selfish reasons.
I feel sorry for my three siblings, all of which had spouses who walked away. Two siblings IMHO were probably more of the problem than their spouses and it was only one brother who turned out to have a wife do what men often do - run off because they made the big money and decided they were being kept back.
dlk
(12,076 posts)What if they just stepped up to the plate, instead? They might have better luck with women wanting to getting married.
A man once told me that too many men want to act like a little kid. All of the whining about women not wanting to marry seems to confirm his belief.
IronLionZion
(46,572 posts)but yes my home is always a mess because we all have our priorities.
Maybe I'll a meet a nice woman to become DINKs and we can hire a housekeeping service and pay them a living wage. In the meantime I'm fine with my dirty counters.
flying_wahini
(7,630 posts)I love my husband and we have been married 41 years. Conservatives never have been able to step out of the box and cant fathom life single. Marriage is an antiquated norm and I think
If we had national healthcare and a childcare program most marriages would dissolve.
gay texan
(2,716 posts)"There is this idea that, well, I have to stick with this man because there's nothing better out there. It still permeates women's choices today. But you know what's better? Your bed, a vibrator and a glass of wine."
Fuck yes!!!!
peppertree
(22,558 posts)Not that any woman would have me anyway.