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geefloyd46

(1,939 posts)
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 12:09 PM Aug 2012

14 Wacky "Facts" Kids Will Learn in Louisiana's Voucher Schools | Mother Jones

1. Dinosaurs and humans probably hung out
2. Dragons were totally real
3. "God used the Trail of Tears to bring many Indians to Christ."
4. Africa needs religion
5. Slave masters were nice guys
6. The KKK was A-OK
7. The Great Depression wasn't as bad as the liberals made it sound
8. SCOTUS enslaved fetuses
9. The Red Scare isn't over yet
10. Mark Twain and Emily Dicksinson were a couple of hacks
11. Abstract algebra is too dang complicated
12. Gay people "have no more claims to special rights than child molesters or rapists."
13. "Global environmentalists have said and written enough to leave no doubt that their goal is to destroy the prosperous economies of the world's richest nations."
14. Globalization is a precursor to rapture

Fuller story here: http://laborspains.blogspot.com/2012/08/14-wacky-facts-kids-will-learn-in.html


Original Story: http://www.motherjones.com/blue-marble/2012/07/photos-evangelical-curricula-louisiana-tax-dollars

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14 Wacky "Facts" Kids Will Learn in Louisiana's Voucher Schools | Mother Jones (Original Post) geefloyd46 Aug 2012 OP
Great way to keep them poor, ignorant and vulnenerable. PDJane Aug 2012 #1
#2 is true Angry Dragon Aug 2012 #2
I believe in you, Dragon. surrealAmerican Aug 2012 #8
Well thank you Angry Dragon Aug 2012 #14
You don't really need to know any of this stuff nichomachus Aug 2012 #3
The A-Beka books enlightenment Aug 2012 #4
I'm pretty sure that by definition you cannot treat a slave well... Scuba Aug 2012 #5
An astonishingly uncritical response. enlightenment Aug 2012 #6
Perhaps you can enlighten this dimension-incapable thinker.... Scuba Aug 2012 #7
I heard that Thomas Jefferson... bvar22 Aug 2012 #9
If being a slave and having to fuck your master is being treated "pretty well" then you're right. Scuba Aug 2012 #10
Guess you'll have to take THAT up with Thomas Jefferson, bvar22 Aug 2012 #12
Time to leave Louisiana jade3000 Aug 2012 #11
I am sooooooooo glad my mom didn't stay there! 47of74 Aug 2012 #13
Iowa seems like an interesting place to be jade3000 Aug 2012 #15

PDJane

(10,103 posts)
1. Great way to keep them poor, ignorant and vulnenerable.
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 12:35 PM
Aug 2012

Also a fine reason to kick the whole voucher idea to the curb and make sure the government funds schools. Ignorance is really expensive over the long run.

enlightenment

(8,830 posts)
4. The A-Beka books
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 01:01 PM
Aug 2012

are clearly the work of crazed loons.

That said, I will take issue with some of the criticism leveled at a few of the Bob Jone U texts. Technically, the bits about "slave masters" and the KKK are not wrong - the quotes are taken out of context, so it is really impossible to know where they are going with it.

I strongly suspect they're going no where good, but, bottom line, you would find the same information in any decent history textbook.

It's not the information; it's what you do with it. If slave owners treated slaves "well", it generally wouldn't have been because they cared about them as people - they did care about their property. The KKK did do the things that excerpt says they did and many communities did embrace them for the reason stipulated. That doesn't mean they were "A-OK" - just that they knew what to do to ingratiate themselves in a community.

What happened is pretty static (Vesuvius did erupt) but how it is presented and how the discussion is directed are not ("Vesuvius erupted because the gods were angry with the licentiousness of the people . . ." versus "Vesuvius was an active volcano that violently erupted after a period of relative calm that had lulled the population into believing nothing would happen&quot .

The Bob Jones U texts probably take the basic information places it should never go - and teach teachers who are willing to take it there. I am not offering support for their 'take' on history - only pointing out that those excerpts are not, technically, wrong.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
5. I'm pretty sure that by definition you cannot treat a slave well...
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 01:13 PM
Aug 2012

... so I'm nominating your post for the dumbest ever.

A stopped clock's right twice a day.

enlightenment

(8,830 posts)
6. An astonishingly uncritical response.
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 03:03 PM
Aug 2012

About what I would expect from someone who apparently is incapable of seeing dimension in anything. I seriously hope that you do nothing that requires critical thinking.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
7. Perhaps you can enlighten this dimension-incapable thinker....
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 03:20 PM
Aug 2012

.... How does one treat a slave well?

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
10. If being a slave and having to fuck your master is being treated "pretty well" then you're right.
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 06:19 PM
Aug 2012

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
12. Guess you'll have to take THAT up with Thomas Jefferson,
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 07:45 PM
Aug 2012

...and most of the other aristocrats who founded this country.
Slavery can come in many forms.
Are YOU free?

jade3000

(238 posts)
11. Time to leave Louisiana
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 06:29 PM
Aug 2012

Any family with school age children should leave Louisiana now! I'll help with the transition if you come to Illinois, Indiana, or New York.

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
13. I am sooooooooo glad my mom didn't stay there!
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 08:55 PM
Aug 2012

Mom lived there for a couple years in the 60s then moved back up here to Iowa. My uncle who moved down there and stayed down there is of the opinion that she would have stayed permanently if she had stayed a few years longer. Doubly glad she didn't now because I wouldn't exist if she had, at least not in my current form. I'd probably be some dumbass Jindal supporter then.

jade3000

(238 posts)
15. Iowa seems like an interesting place to be
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 01:03 AM
Aug 2012

I've thought about moving there, at least for one presidential election year. It'd be interesting to see how the campaigning happens on the ground. There's so much power in the hands of one state. And I could go hang out with my cousin in Rock Island, IL.

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