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Fire Walk With Me

(38,893 posts)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 03:06 PM Dec 2011

Vermont Introduces Resolution to Amend US Constitution, Ban Corporate Personhood


23rd January 2011 · 14 Comments

It’s been one year since the US Supreme Court decided that corporations are people and money is free speech. The disastrous Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission ruling destroyed over a century of restrictions on corporate influence of our nation’s electoral process, accelerating the already alarming corporate takeover of American politics. The consequences of Citizens United were almost immediately felt in the form of a $290,000,000 special interest spending orgy in the 2010 midterm elections. Much of this money represented foreign corporate interests, and it played a significant role in the conservative resurgence that saw Republicans re-gain control of the House of Representatives.

Justice John Paul Stevens’ stirring dissenting opinion argued that “the Court’s ruling threatens to undermine the integrity of elected institutions across the nation. It will undoubtedly cripple the ability of ordinary citizens, Congress, and the states to adopt even limited measures to protect against corporate domination of the electoral process.” Stevens also wrote: “Corporations have no consciences, no beliefs, no feelings, no thoughts, no desires. Corporations help structure and facilitate the activities of human beings, to be sure, and their ‘personhood’ often serves as a useful legal fiction. But they are not themselves members of ‘We the People’ by whom and for whom our Constitution was established.”

In that spirit, Vermont state senator Virginia Lyons has introduced an anti-corporate personhood resolution in the state legislature. JRS 11 is a “joint resolution urging the United States Congress to propose an amendment to the United States Constitution for the states’ consideration which provides that corporations are not persons under the laws of the United States or any of its jurisdictional subdivisions.” The resolution continues:
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Vermont Introduces Resolution to Amend US Constitution, Ban Corporate Personhood (Original Post) Fire Walk With Me Dec 2011 OP
This is a good step but Vermont and other states should go further by calling jerseyjack Dec 2011 #1
How many times must it be repeated that a new CC is a bad idea? Initech Dec 2011 #16
Your link is dead. n/t dogknob Dec 2011 #2
Several of the libmom74 Dec 2011 #3
I find that if I visit an "Occupy" site to read about what is going on, truedelphi Dec 2011 #7
k&r n/t RainDog Dec 2011 #4
LINK WORKS FINE: freshwest Dec 2011 #5
Updates? This is almost a year old. Ruby the Liberal Dec 2011 #6
Blast, didn't see that. No, sorry, I know no more off the top of my head. Fire Walk With Me Dec 2011 #8
Well, I wish them well. Ruby the Liberal Dec 2011 #10
Referred to a committee; seems stuck there muriel_volestrangler Dec 2011 #13
And if I had my way 47of74 Dec 2011 #9
we should end corporate personhood right away limpyhobbler Dec 2011 #11
If corporations are people, shouldn't they have the right to vote? tclambert Dec 2011 #12
They vote multiple times already. One dollar = one vote. nt Lucky Luciano Dec 2011 #15
Corporations can NOT be people ... at least not until Texas executes one of them 66 dmhlt Dec 2011 #14
The time has come for a Constitutional Convention. Odin2005 Jan 2012 #17


(1,361 posts)
1. This is a good step but Vermont and other states should go further by calling
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 06:29 PM
Dec 2011

for a Constitutional Convention to correct this wrong. The convention would likely never take place because the powers in D.C. would propose the amendment before the issue got to the level of a full blown convention.


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16. How many times must it be repeated that a new CC is a bad idea?
Sat Dec 31, 2011, 05:45 PM
Dec 2011

Last edited Sat Dec 31, 2011, 09:34 PM - Edit history (1)

It won't result in the end of corporate personhood. A new CC is the wet dream of Xtian fundamentalists everywhere - it will have the opposite effects and result in the rise of a theocratic corporaticracy.


(633 posts)
3. Several of the
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 07:13 PM
Dec 2011

people in the FB group Occupy Seattle tried to link to this article and others but were unable to for about an hour, once it came back up it not all of the same information was there. It seems SOPA has begun. The censorship of the internet just like in Iran and China brought to you by a "Democratic" administration.

Also got this message from another OS poster: Just got this message from a member of Occupy Seattle:

"Many links are being blocked as we speak....Information is being hidden folks! I don't know what to say...things that were available last week or today, like news stories are being blocked...at least on my computer..."


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7. I find that if I visit an "Occupy" site to read about what is going on,
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 10:51 PM
Dec 2011

My computer starts acting strangely within minutes of that visit.


(100,985 posts)
13. Referred to a committee; seems stuck there
Sat Dec 31, 2011, 07:25 AM
Dec 2011

There was this, from March:

Vermont state senator Virginia Lyons, who recently introduced a bill in that state's Legislature to redefine personhood (and by extension citizenship) as only applying to human beings, has been continuing to gather support for her bill in both the general population and the business community.

Representatives of Vermont Businesses for Social Responsibility testified in support of the bill at a hearing of the Legislature's Government Operations Committee, where the resolution will await a vote and may also be subject to "modification." Prominent Vermont businesses and businesspeople including Green Mountain Coffee Roasters and Jerry Greenfield of Ben and Jerry's also spoke in support of the bill.

The proposed resolution is likely to get a further push at a forum organized by U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders, which will be held at 2 p.m. on March 5 at Montpelier High School and feature a keynote address by noted progressive radio and television host Thom Hartman, followed by a panel discussion by Lyons, Cheryl Hanna, constitutional law professor at Vermont Law School, and Rob Weissman, president of the progressive activist group Public Citizen from Washington, D.C.. For more information on the event visit http://sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/events/event/?id=799218a0-3947-49e3-a822-5c63cd0ffe82.
Senator Lyons also has been contacted by legislators from several other states, including Washington, Texas, Maryland, Wisconsin, Rhode Island, New Hampshire, New York, and New Jersey, who have expressed interest in introducing similar resolutions in their own states. In response to a question about what other meaningful steps could be taken to preserve a truly democratic government, such as banning paid lobbyists from access to legislators, Senator Lyons replied, "Every year I consider introducing either a rule change for the House and Senate or a resolution to keep registered lobbyists from the State House for one day a week or month. I may do that sooner or later."


And from a month ago:



(18,470 posts)
9. And if I had my way
Sat Dec 31, 2011, 02:12 AM
Dec 2011

An attempt to circumvent this amendment would join treason and counterfeiting as the few crimes mentioned in the constitution.


(8,244 posts)
11. we should end corporate personhood right away
Sat Dec 31, 2011, 02:21 AM
Dec 2011

It will probably take at least 10 years of concerted effort to pass this amendment if at all.


(11,071 posts)
12. If corporations are people, shouldn't they have the right to vote?
Sat Dec 31, 2011, 06:51 AM
Dec 2011

CEOs get to vote twice, once for themselves, and once on behalf of the corporate "person." If I can afford to create many, many corporations shouldn't I get to vote many, many times?

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