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elleng

(130,956 posts)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:15 PM Nov 2012

Rove’s On-Air Rebuttal of Fox’s Ohio Vote Call Raises Questions About His Role.

“I had a concern about premature calls, and in this instance, the concern was shared by my Fox colleague Joe Trippi,” Mr. Rove said Wednesday, referring to the Democratic strategist and Fox contributor who ran Howard Dean’s presidential campaign in 2004.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/08/us/politics/roves-on-air-rebuttal-of-foxs-ohio-vote-call-raises-questions-about-his-role.html?hp&_r=0

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LiberalArkie

(15,716 posts)
1. I believe that Rove knew "the fix was in" in Ohio, so the numbers had to be wrong.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:26 PM
Nov 2012

I do not think they anticipated such a large turnout in Ohio and elsewhere, and the voters willing to stay in lines for 7, 8 10 hours or more just to vote.

We the people overwhelmed the "FIX". In the old days in the south, the ballot boxes from the black precincts would just disappear and be found a few weeks later on the side of a road, after the vote totals were certified.

Uncle Joe

(58,364 posts)
3. I agree, I would also wager against the OP's contention
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:37 PM
Nov 2012

they didn't call Florida too early in 2000 for Gore, the fix was in there as well but it turned out to be successful.

Uncle Joe

(58,364 posts)
6. Yes, that was the ultimate fix but there were many "fixes" along the way
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 06:54 PM
Nov 2012

which moved the count slightly to Bush's favor before the SC inserted itself into a state election only to stop the true intent of the people from being brought to fruition.

The margin in Ohio this year was too great for the Republicans to steal especially after the coup of 2000, subsequent electoral controversy in Ohio of 2004, growing awareness of the people via the Internet, International attention and eroding trust in the corporate media (particularly FOX) to enlighten and tell the inconvenient truths.

The republic simply wouldn't stand for it again and I believe the people on FOX "News" finally realized this to Rove's dismay.

 

cleduc

(653 posts)
2. By 9:45 p.m., Mr. Romney’s aides had cut off the volume on the news shows
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:37 PM
Nov 2012
http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2012/11/07/us/politics/20121107_HP_OBAMA-29.html

but Karl didn't know at 11:20pm when the networks called Ohio for Obama and the election ? ....
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