Papantonio: NSA Spying – Okay With The American Public?

[GoLeft TV]

Mike Papantonio appears on The Big Picture with Thom Hartmann to discuss the recent revelations from The Guardian's Glenn Greenwald that the administration has been obtaining phone records from Verizon, continuing the Bush Administration's practice of spying on American citizens.

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[Newest Reality]

1. Okay,

who are the kinky people getting some covert kick out of "spy on me"?

Are they the folks who have internalized the system so much that they want the government to be like god and Santa? He knows when you are sleeping. He knows when you are awake. He knows when you've been good or bad, so be good for goodness sake!

Fear motivated acquiescence to loss of privacy and rights may be a syndrome that results from the incessant and constant manipulation and public relations that stream through this culture like a Fascist river of denial.

Do some people feel, subtly, that being spied on is a way to get some attention or have some insignificant importance? Is this how people who are not being payed attention to, (as a majority) by their government and "representatives" can assuage that sense of being ignored?

Who knows, but one can speculate on such an odd phenomena. Yeah, I know, fear, fear, fear, we must be safe in this dangerous world!!! It's a fetish, nonetheless.

[marmar]

2. k/r

[Dustlawyer]

3. K&R! It similar to the Germans in the lead up for WW II, 1st they came for __,then they

came for__, I didn't worry b/c it wasn't me until it was too late (Paraphrased). It has been incremental, if they had done this in one fell swoop we would have been pissed enough to put a stop to it! They want to know what we are thinking so if people start to rise up, they can head it off. The rich control this country and will not willingly give it up. That is why we need Complete Campaign Finance Reform (CCFR), so we can publicly fund elections and stop all of the "fund raising" (bribes)!

[90-percent]

4. Math, logic, facts and reason as applied to NSA Constitutional crimes

So “THEY” want to protect us from the nasty dangerous world? Well, being a democracy almost by definition means our government should do the most good for the most people. Our government should prioritize their “protection” of us all based on the magnitude of the threat. Here’s some American mortality stats from 2011 (http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/deaths.htm)

Number of deaths for leading causes of death:
Heart disease: 597,689
Cancer: 574,743
Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 138,080
Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 129,476
Accidents (unintentional injuries): 120,859
Alzheimer's disease: 83,494
Diabetes: 69,071
Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 50,476
Influenza and Pneumonia: 50,097
Intentional self-harm (suicide): 38,364

This seems to add up to approximately 1.85 million deaths per year for the above causes of death. Rounding down to 11 years since 9-11 and assuming about the same death toll per year since 9-11, that’s 20.35 million US dead since 9-11. I know almost all of the above is preventable, but we don't have the technology in all of the sciences to bring the above numbers down to zero, but we are making inroads continuously in lowering the preventable death rates.

The number that died in the 9-11 attacks is approximately 3,000 (http://www.statisticbrain.com/911-death-statistics/)
So our government has been aggressively nullifying our Constitution in the name of fighting terrorism?

To prevent the deaths of a hypothetical future 3000 people vs not giving a rats ass about the 20,350,000 preventable deaths since 9-11. Either our elected reps have misplaced priorities or “they hate us for our freedoms”, which are being nullified daily in the name of the war on terror.

I thought these people took an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution, not destroy it in front of our very eyes. Aren’t these people violating a pretty damn sacred oath to uphold the Constitution simply traitors?

I want all of America to enjoy the same Constitutional Rights we all used tp enjoy thirty years ago. In terms of magnitude, destroying the Constitution to save us from terrorists is like "treating dandruff by decapitation"*.

-90% Jimmy

* - Frank Zappa at the 1985 PMRC Congressional Hearings