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Related: About this forumTYT: NSA Surveillance - Does Obama Have ANY Credibility Left?
"In his remarks today defending the NSA programs gathering telephone records and mining Internet companies, Obama sounded a familiar refrain, saying he welcomes the "debate" over the proper balance between civil liberties and national security."*
Obama gave a speech in defense of recently uncovered secret programs to wiretap and data-mine U.S. citizens almost indiscriminately, and Congress agrees. Do you believe his remarks that we NEED these programs? Would Obama agree with himself campaigning about his stance on civil rights? Cenk Uygur, Ben Mankiewicz, and John Iadarola discuss.
*Read more form Washington Post:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2013/06/07/does-obama-really-believe-nsa-programs-have-the-right-balance/
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TYT: NSA Surveillance - Does Obama Have ANY Credibility Left? (Original Post)
SamuelB
Jun 2013
OP
There is no debate to be had.
negative!
truth2power
(8,219 posts)3. No. n/t
glinda
(14,807 posts)4. nice face morph
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)5. NONE ZIP ZERO ZILCH NADA THE BIG ZERO
We're all German now
BillyRibs
(787 posts)6. This Man has lost somthing greater than Credibility, He has lost my support!
First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.
Then they came for the socialists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.
Then they came for the Catholics,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Catholic.
Then they came for me,
and there was no one left to speak for me.
jakeXT
(10,575 posts)7. Should be called.. "Does he have the courage ?" /nt
bowens43
(16,064 posts)8. Obama lost credibility years ago.....