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SamuelB

(87 posts)
Sat Jun 15, 2013, 04:01 PM Jun 2013

Obama: 'This Administration Acts Like Violating Civil Liberties Is The Way To Enhance Our Security'



Who said it?

This Administration also puts forward a false choice between the liberties we cherish and the security we demand. I will provide our intelligence and law enforcement agencies with the tools they need to track and take out the terrorists without undermining our Constitution and our freedom.

That means no more illegal wiretapping of American citizens. No more national security letters to spy on citizens who are not suspected of a crime. No more tracking citizens who do nothing more than protest a misguided war. No more ignoring the law when it is inconvenient.

That is not who we are. It's not what is necessary to defeat the terrorists. The FISA court works. The separation of powers works.

Our constitution works. We will again set an example for the world that the law is not subject to the whims of stubborn rulers and that justice is not arbitrary.

This administration acts like violating civil liberties is the way to enhance our security. It is not.

There are no shortcuts to protecting America.


- August, 2007
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Obama: 'This Administration Acts Like Violating Civil Liberties Is The Way To Enhance Our Security' (Original Post) SamuelB Jun 2013 OP
Security SamKnause Jun 2013 #1
uhh.......ok, I vote for "merely an actor playing a part "? dixiegrrrrl Jun 2013 #6
Number 4. :-/ DeSwiss Jun 2013 #8
this man speaks for me carolinayellowdog Jun 2013 #2
Who the hell was that?!!! .... jjewell Jun 2013 #3
I could swear I voted for this guy. There must have been a coup. L0oniX Jun 2013 #4
Another hater bagger with ODS lecturing us Dragonfli Jun 2013 #5
Now, that's the guy I voted for twice. Jack Rabbit Jun 2013 #7
+100 nt truebluegreen Jun 2013 #18
K&R DeSwiss Jun 2013 #9
I think I saw that guy's picture on the side of a milk carton DJ13 Jun 2013 #10
+1 ...for the amber alert. L0oniX Jun 2013 #11
When The People Fear Their Government, There Is Tyranny; ... cantbeserious Jun 2013 #12
The NSA is 60 years old. SleeplessinSoCal Jun 2013 #13
The NSA is an executive branch agency. sulphurdunn Jun 2013 #15
Totally different situation from IRS. SleeplessinSoCal Jun 2013 #19
If a government employee sulphurdunn Jun 2013 #22
He delivers his lines as well as Reagan. AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2013 #14
That was candidate Obama burnodo Jun 2013 #16
he signed the ndaa on new years eve..he is sneaky and has a kill list xiamiam Jun 2013 #20
I'd guess that the key weasely word is "illegal" truebluegreen Jun 2013 #17
FISA court doesn't seem to work. limpyhobbler Jun 2013 #21
kick burnodo Jun 2013 #23

SamKnause

(13,103 posts)
1. Security
Sat Jun 15, 2013, 04:11 PM
Jun 2013

Where did the man in the video disappear to ?

Is the man in the White House a clone ?

Is the man merely an actor playing a part ?

Are dark forces controlling the man in the video.

Has the video been altered ?

I thought the man in the video was a wise choice.

He spoke forcefully about the issues I cared about.

He disappeared after the election.

Will the real Barrack Obama please stand up !!!!

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
6. uhh.......ok, I vote for "merely an actor playing a part "?
Sat Jun 15, 2013, 04:47 PM
Jun 2013

Altho a Stepford President a la Disney could also be a choice.

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
5. Another hater bagger with ODS lecturing us
Sat Jun 15, 2013, 04:45 PM
Jun 2013

That guy just doesn't understand, Obama knows what's best.

cantbeserious

(13,039 posts)
12. When The People Fear Their Government, There Is Tyranny; ...
Sat Jun 15, 2013, 05:33 PM
Jun 2013

When the Government fears the people, There is Liberty.

Thomas Jefferson

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,116 posts)
13. The NSA is 60 years old.
Sat Jun 15, 2013, 05:56 PM
Jun 2013

It's bigger than we - including Obama - ever imagined. 40,000 employees not including contractors. Add the CIA 20,000 plus unlimited classified employees - and the FBI's 36,000 employees, AND all the contracted employees around the world by our "security" agencies, and how do you manage them and do anything else?

Really? How do you?

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
15. The NSA is an executive branch agency.
Sat Jun 15, 2013, 06:34 PM
Jun 2013

Those who work there are bound by the Constitution and the oaths they take to do what the President tells them to do. The President could start by firing some people. If he can do it at the IRS, he can do it at the NSA.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,116 posts)
19. Totally different situation from IRS.
Sat Jun 15, 2013, 07:41 PM
Jun 2013

Rightly or wrongly, the NSA is doing its job as defined by Congress. The IRS went rogue. At least this is what I've determined to date.

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
22. If a government employee
Sun Jun 16, 2013, 04:36 PM
Jun 2013

does her job, and if that job means skepticism of conservatives gaming the system, you've gone rogue. The IRS scandal merely reinforces the appearance that when right wingers squeal, Democrats go bi-partisan. The only scandal is how quickly the President sold out the IRS leadership for investigating laughable teabagger applications for tax exempt status and how quickly he crawled to the NSA altar to bless its massive domestic spying operations.

xiamiam

(4,906 posts)
20. he signed the ndaa on new years eve..he is sneaky and has a kill list
Sat Jun 15, 2013, 09:34 PM
Jun 2013

aspiring to change is one thing.. ramping up the use of drones, and surveillance and the war on whistleblowers among a host of other things is not my idea of not making the changes one aspired to.. even gwb didn't have a kill list

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
17. I'd guess that the key weasely word is "illegal"
Sat Jun 15, 2013, 07:37 PM
Jun 2013

We've interpreted laws to make it legal so it's all good now.

The fact that our interpretations and the law and everything else is secret so no one can challenge it in court is just happenstance. Or coincidence. Or enemy action! Whatever.

limpyhobbler

(8,244 posts)
21. FISA court doesn't seem to work.
Sun Jun 16, 2013, 01:12 PM
Jun 2013

They approved the government building an indexed library of all our private communications. That's messed up.

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