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Fri Sep 6, 2013, 10:18 AM

Fireworks: MSNBC's Alex Wagner vs. Ron Paul On Syria, Liberty, Anti-Semitism

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Link: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/09/05/fireworks_msnbcs_alex_wagner_vs_ron_paul_on_syria_liberty_anti-semitism.html

Former Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) joins Alex Wagner to give his take on the situation in Syria, how Obama has handled the situation, and why he thinks the "grand deception" of the Syria debate is that this is a question of national security.

Alex Wagner: With your emphasis on liberty, I have to ask you about some of the folks that are in your coalition. And this weekend you are going to be giving an address at the Fatima Center, a conference in Canada for the Fatima Center, which has been called a hard-core anti-Semite group. Is this something that you would reconsider doing?

Ron Paul: No. As a CatholicÖ

Wagner: Go ahead.

Paul: I even talk to Republicans and they disagree with everything I say. When Iím on a Republican stage and I say we should have a foreign policy of the golden rule, they boo me. Iím trying to covert people. But Iím going to a conservative Catholic group that is pro-peace and wants to hear my foreign policy and my take on economy. If I go only ó I wouldnít be on this station if I had to have a litmus test. I mean, you have an opinion. Ö Iím on your station, why canít I go there?

Wagner: We appreciate you coming on this station, but at the same time this station is not advocating, as the Fatima Center has, to ďthe duty incumbent upon Catholics of combating valiantly for the integral rights of Christ the King and opposing Jewish nationalism and preaching about Satanís plans against the church, among which include the granting of full citizenship to the Jews.Ē Is your appearance at an event like this not some kind of endorsement ofÖ

Paul: What I would say is, yes, there are disagreements within the Catholic Church, and theyíre debating its theological ó I have nothing to do with that. I am not even going to pretend I know anything about that. Sounds to me like you have me on here to bash Catholics.

Wagner: I was raised Catholic, so thatís the last thing Iíd want to do.

Paul: Yeah, well you ought to be more courteous to them and give them a break. I mean, you know, why canít we have discussions with people that might have a difference? And Iíve put up with a lot of this in the last 40 years because not too many people agree, but why Iím excited is the country is coming toward the way of peace and this coalition of libertarians and progressives. Weíve had too much war, too much spending, too much Federal Reserve printing of money. And thatís whatís important. For you to bring this stuff up about the infractions of some group that I have no idea what their theologyís all aboutÖthat just astounds me.

Wagner: You know, there have been a lot of folks that have been involved with your campaign ó supporters. Thereíve been newsletters that have been accredited to you that have strong anti-Semitic, racist undertones and I think the American public is curious about how you endorse or do not endorse or deny involvement with any of that. And thatís why itís a relevant line of questioning.

Paul: You know, the first month after I was elected in 1976 Ö I was a practicing physician for all these years. And I run for office, I had no expectation of winning. Ö The first month they put my picture in a magazine with a swastika. So this is just horrible and it just goes on. When people disagree with you on ideas, they have to destroy your character. Thatís what they do. The main reason I get attacked from anybody, like you, itís because thereís disagreement on my foreign policy. I want peace and I donít want to support the war-mongers. So you have to go after somebodyís character. Thatís wrong.

Wagner: I donít think that constitutes a character attack, Dr. Paul, but we really do appreciate you coming on the show. (transcript via Washington Post)

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