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Russian Roulette: The Invasion of Ukraine (VICE) (Original Post) joshcryer Mar 2014 OP
BBC also got aboard a boat: joshcryer Mar 2014 #1
James Murdoch Joins Board of Media Company Vice rdharma Mar 2014 #2
So it's 5% untrue or what? joshcryer Mar 2014 #3
JAMES MURDOCH.... VICE Media Director.....untrue or what? rdharma Mar 2014 #8
5% stake. You insult Simon Ostrovsky's hard work. joshcryer Mar 2014 #9
Kicking this thread will also share the humor! rdharma Mar 2014 #12
That you have nothing to contribute? joshcryer Mar 2014 #13
I think I've contributed enough by exposing this video as utter BS! nt rdharma Mar 2014 #16
You've only shown a knee jerk reaction to Simon Ostrovsky's reporting. joshcryer Mar 2014 #18
Did you notice the ominous background music starting at 06:48? rdharma Mar 2014 #4
Simon Ostrovsky is sneaking onto an army base infested by armed men. joshcryer Mar 2014 #5
Errr merrr gerrrd! rdharma Mar 2014 #6
You're the one freaking out about the music. joshcryer Mar 2014 #7
Could it be that the "guards" there don't give a sheet? rdharma Mar 2014 #10
They obviously have orders. joshcryer Mar 2014 #11
"Were these reporters searched?" rdharma Mar 2014 #14
To protect the base? joshcryer Mar 2014 #17
In Vietnam the US only had to find Charlie, here the Russians are confused by leg warmers jakeXT Mar 2014 #15
Awesome report, thanks! nt thereismore Mar 2014 #19
Ladies & Gentlemen, let me introduce the director of VICE NEWS......James Murdoch!!! rdharma Mar 2014 #20
Thanks for the kick! 5% stakeholder. joshcryer Mar 2014 #21
And DIRECTOR of VICE NEWS! rdharma Mar 2014 #22
Has no control over Simon Ostrovsky! joshcryer Mar 2014 #23
oops, double post joshcryer Mar 2014 #24
 

rdharma

(6,057 posts)
2. James Murdoch Joins Board of Media Company Vice
Fri Mar 7, 2014, 03:34 AM
Mar 2014
James Murdoch Joins Board of Media Company Vice

By RAVI SOMAIYA

Published: November 21, 2013

James Murdoch, a 21st Century Fox executive and the son of the media mogul Rupert Murdoch, has joined Vice Media as a director, two people with knowledge of the appointment said on Thursday.

Over the summer Fox acquired a 5 percent stake in Vice, whose brand of video and print journalism has spread from scrappy start-up to establishment outlets like HBO. Fox paid $70 million for its investment.

James Murdoch joined as a director as part of that deal, said one person with knowledge of the arrangement, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss confidential internal moves. Vice remains a privately owned company, with majority control of the board.

The appointment was first reported by The London Evening Standard.

Mr. Murdoch had previously been the chief executive and chairman of his father’s European and Asian businesses. But after a phone hacking scandal in Britain, in which journalists at Murdoch papers were accused of illegally accessing the voice mail messages of public figures, he moved to New York to assume new positions within News Corporation, which this summer split into two companies.

joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
3. So it's 5% untrue or what?
Fri Mar 7, 2014, 03:40 AM
Mar 2014

VICE uses independent reporters. Simon Ostrovsky's work is unparalleled. From covering forced child labor in the cotton fields of Uzbekistan, to police brutality in Jamaica, to Jewish Settlers in the Palestinian Territories.

The Putin PR defense comes quick around these parts. Have any criticism of Simon Ostrovsky?

joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
9. 5% stake. You insult Simon Ostrovsky's hard work.
Fri Mar 7, 2014, 04:00 AM
Mar 2014


Just trying to bury the truth. Hint, kicking the thread will keep it visible.

joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
18. You've only shown a knee jerk reaction to Simon Ostrovsky's reporting.
Fri Mar 7, 2014, 04:21 AM
Mar 2014

If anything you've made people wonder what the big deal is. I hope many watch it thanks to your antics!

 

rdharma

(6,057 posts)
4. Did you notice the ominous background music starting at 06:48?
Fri Mar 7, 2014, 03:44 AM
Mar 2014

Very dramatic! Is that a normal journalistic practice for a straight news report?

I can recognize propaganda when I see it. Most folks won't even recognize what's going on...... that's why I pointed it out.

joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
5. Simon Ostrovsky is sneaking onto an army base infested by armed men.
Fri Mar 7, 2014, 03:48 AM
Mar 2014

It's certainly editorialized but it is appropriate for the situation.

Especially when these armed men refuse to tell of their status or where their authority derives.

 

rdharma

(6,057 posts)
6. Errr merrr gerrrd!
Fri Mar 7, 2014, 03:54 AM
Mar 2014


It's more dramatic than Geraldo Rivera's flop about Al Capone's secret treasure!

joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
7. You're the one freaking out about the music.
Fri Mar 7, 2014, 03:57 AM
Mar 2014

I assure you if a journalist tried that on a US naval base he'd be summarily arrested.

These armed masked guys are so out of touch they don't know not to allow a journalist on a base. They must have very strict orders not to interfere. But if so called "defense forces" do something then they just stand aside and watch. You can see that at the end of the BBC video where the armed masked guys (who won't say where they're from) aren't seen doing anything but so called "militas" surround the area where the BBC guys' cars are parked.

 

rdharma

(6,057 posts)
10. Could it be that the "guards" there don't give a sheet?
Fri Mar 7, 2014, 04:03 AM
Mar 2014

You think this a-hole "snuck in" with all his video equipment and team?

Really? Are you that naïve?

Sorry..... but I can spot this propaganda crap a mile away.

joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
11. They obviously have orders.
Fri Mar 7, 2014, 04:06 AM
Mar 2014

And those aren't to protect Crimea.

Were these reporters searched? How did they know that they were not there to get intel for a fascist invasion force?

Yes, he clearly snuck in by "avoiding" these "defenders" of the military base. All he had to do was literally walk around them! That's how much they were "defending" the base.

I can sense the desperation from here.

 

rdharma

(6,057 posts)
14. "Were these reporters searched?"
Fri Mar 7, 2014, 04:15 AM
Mar 2014

Of course not! Why? Should they have been searched? For what reason?

Dumbasses with cameras....... nothing more.

joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
17. To protect the base?
Fri Mar 7, 2014, 04:21 AM
Mar 2014

So you say that anyone with cameras should be allowed to walk around Crimea's military bases? Sweet deal!

 

rdharma

(6,057 posts)
20. Ladies & Gentlemen, let me introduce the director of VICE NEWS......James Murdoch!!!
Fri Mar 7, 2014, 02:07 PM
Mar 2014

"James Rupert Jacob Murdoch (born 13 December 1972) is the younger son of media mogul Rupert Murdoch and the deputy chief operating officer of News Corporation. He is the former chairman and chief executive of News Corp., Europe and Asia, where he oversaw assets such as News International (British newspapers), publisher of The News of the World newspaper, SKY Italia (satellite television in Italy), Sky Deutschland, and STAR TV (satellite television in Asia).

He sits on the News Corporation board of directors and is a member of the office of the chairman. He was made Executive Chairman of News International in December 2007. He has since resigned from the post. He previously held a non-executive chair at British Sky Broadcasting, in which News Corporation has a controlling minority stake. In April 2012, he was forced to resign as chairman of BSkyB in the wake of the on-going phone-hacking scandal, in which he is implicated.

He was formerly an executive vice president of News Corporation, the controlling shareholder of BSkyB, and served on the boards of directors of News Datacom and of News Corporation.

In May 2012, a highly critical UK Parliamentary report said Murdoch had 'showed wilful ignorance of the extent of phone-hacking' and found him 'guilty of an astonishing lack of curiosity' over the issue. It went on to say that both Murdoch and his father, Rupert, 'should ultimately be prepared to take responsibility' for wrongdoing at the News of the World and News International.

joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
23. Has no control over Simon Ostrovsky!
Fri Mar 7, 2014, 06:35 PM
Mar 2014

When I post Simon Ostrovsky's next dispatch I hope you are as passionate to keep it visible!

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