Welcome to DU!
The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards.
Join the community:
Create a free account
Support DU (and get rid of ads!):
Become a Star Member
Latest Breaking News
General Discussion
The DU Lounge
All Forums
Issue Forums
Culture Forums
Alliance Forums
Region Forums
Support Forums
Help & Search
Video & Multimedia
Related: About this forum
InfoView thread info, including edit history
TrashPut this thread in your Trash Can (My DU » Trash Can)
BookmarkAdd this thread to your Bookmarks (My DU » Bookmarks)
11 replies, 2570 views
ShareGet links to this post and/or share on social media
AlertAlert this post for a rule violation
PowersThere are no powers you can use on this post
EditCannot edit other people's posts
ReplyReply to this post
EditCannot edit other people's posts
Rec (6)
ReplyReply to this post
11 replies
= new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight:
NoneDon't highlight anything
5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
"1776" (The Movie) - The Signing of the Declaration (Original Post)
Hissyspit
Jul 2014
OP
I still get a big kick out of the fact that Howard da Silva got the last word.
no_hypocrisy
Jul 2014
#2
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)1. Even with all its faults, I just love this movie!
pam4water
(2,916 posts)5. I feel like they got it right in sprite if not time line.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)6. Absolutely! I feel like watching it now. Great one for today.
no_hypocrisy
(46,104 posts)2. I still get a big kick out of the fact that Howard da Silva got the last word.
Playing Founding Father Benjamin Franklin after being unfairly and illegally blacklisted. (He originated the role of Larry Foreman in "The Cradle Will Rock" on Broadway.)
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)3. Cool! I never heard that before. He does a great job as Franklin.
pam4water
(2,916 posts)4. But do you have it with ponies ;) :? j/k
dsteve01
(312 posts)7. Assassin's Creed
Taught me all of this, already.
pam4water
(2,916 posts)8. Ummm... OK... sure.. backs way nice and slow...
dsteve01
(312 posts)10. I'm sorry. I can see I'm not wanted here.
I'll leave you alone to your horses and English genocide.
pam4water
(2,916 posts)11. I'm Irish not English. That is a cheap shot, but that is to be expected from someone who gets
there history form a video game. Off to block you now.
intheflow
(28,473 posts)9. Very political movie when it came out! Nixon pressured the director to cut a scene, which he did.
From Wikipedia, but also on bonus material on the DVD:
The song "Cool, Cool, Considerate Men" depicts Revolutionary Warera conservatives as power-hungry wheedlers focused on maintaining wealth. According to Jack L. Warner, the film's producer and a friend of U.S. President Richard Nixon, Nixon pressured him to cut the song from the 1972 film version of the show, which Warner did. Nixon apparently saw the song as an insult to the conservatives of his time, it suggesting that the conservatives were the ones who were hindering American Independence as they danced a minuet singing the song that included the stanza,
Come ye cool, cool considerate set
We'll dance together to the same minuet
To the right, ever to the right
Never to the left, forever to the right.
To further complicate things as mentioned above, the song is anachronistic, because, the terms "right" and "left" in politics were not coined until the French Revolution. Warner also wanted the original negative of the song shredded, but the film's editor secretly kept it intact. It was only decades later that the song was restored to the film.
Come ye cool, cool considerate set
We'll dance together to the same minuet
To the right, ever to the right
Never to the left, forever to the right.
To further complicate things as mentioned above, the song is anachronistic, because, the terms "right" and "left" in politics were not coined until the French Revolution. Warner also wanted the original negative of the song shredded, but the film's editor secretly kept it intact. It was only decades later that the song was restored to the film.
I saw the movie on a sixth grade field trip in 1976 and was amazed at that scene - which I hadn't remembered, for good reason - when I watched it again on DVD some 25 or 30 years later. It is one of the most powerful scenes in the movie and one can really see why Nixon was so threatened by it as he was facing a looming impeachment. the conservatives in the movie not only dance a minuet as they sing this, they finish the song by goose-stepping out of Congress.